Wraiths are broken in Raids and don't always give loot

Ellyanna

Member
I sent in a bug report but wanted to post this here as well. Wraiths spawn in raids but they don't drop tattered shadows at all. We did two runs in the Rift and one in each wing of Helegrod. Got several wraiths and not a single tattered shadow from any of them.

Another time a group of 6 of us in a fellow came upon a Harrowing Wraith and only two people in our group got the tatttered shadows loot.

That's very disappointing since they now don't show up in missions and when I go deeding I see very few of them. Outside of just running around killing random mobs at my level I don't seem to be having much luck spawning any wraiths since the change to them was made. Please fix them in the raids and/or give us a way to have an option to have them in missions.
 

Ecrinhael

Meowdy
Outside of just running around killing random mobs at my level I don't seem to be having much luck spawning any wraiths since the change to them was made.
I haven't been on raids yet, and at most have done 3-man delvings, so I can't comment on your other issues. However, with this comment, I do know that if you are running around randomly killing stuff, wraiths spawn rarely. However, lets say you go to an area to farm hides, and it is densely packed with mobs and you are pretty much killing non-stop, you will get one about every 7 minutes like clockwork. Again, not ideal, they should take this timer out and have them randomly spawn like when the server first opened, but this at least guarantees more wraith spawns than just randomly killing mobs that are scattered through out the map.
 

Isirion

Active member
We intend to make a change for a near future update that will remove lesser wraiths from raids.

Keep wraiths in raids and buff them to be a fun addition to group content. I don't think a single person has asked the team to remove wraiths from raids. They are an intended feature/addition to the legendary server experience of Angmar/Mordor. Why do you want to strip them away from another environment?

You can of course have some exceptions of wraith locations in raids with that in mind, but just leave them in raids.
 
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Ecrinhael

Meowdy
We intend to make a change for a near future update that will remove lesser wraiths from raids.
Not sure if you followed what the OP was stating (and not meaning disrespect to you). There haven't been (as far as I can tell) any complaints about wraiths on raids, only that they aren't dropping tattered shadows (shadowy) or inconsistently (mournful, harrowing) in raids. Keeping the wraiths in the raids (which I am looking forward to participating in) just adds to the fun of it all, and one of the reasons I am here on Angmar.
 

bcdaedalus

Active member
mean the simple salution is to run all content as a fellowship till they do the correct thing and alow wraiths to drop tattered shadows in raids there a fun addition and all current content is possible as a 6man. them spawning in raids is the only real farm for them atm.
 

iridium

Well-known member
We intend to make a change for a near future update that will remove lesser wraiths from raids.
A perfect reminder of the fact that we shouldn't be blaming other fellow players for weird changes that get introduced, because they do not get introduced due to any feedback we actually give. Nobody asked for anything even remotely close to the complete removal of lesser wraiths from raids. Where did this come from??

Can't wait until somebody on the forums start accusing the "noobs" though and then somebody brings up the discord, and meanwhile on the discord they'll keep on saying it's them forum dwellers... When nobody. ever. asked you to remove wraiths from raids. That's one of the few places they absolutely SHOULD be in if anything. Why not focus on fixing the multitude of issues with Nazgul instead?
 

LiNGeN

Member
Its not just tattered shadows its any loot from kill while being a member of a raid group wherever you are. Game is broken.
 

Electrolyte

Well-known member
We intend to make a change for a near future update that will remove lesser wraiths from raids.

And replace them with Harrowing Wraiths? Ringwraiths?

OP is saying they're not getting the barter items they earned, and the SSG response is "don't worry, you won't be able to earn them anymore soon".
 

Ellyanna

Member
I haven't been on raids yet, and at most have done 3-man delvings, so I can't comment on your other issues. However, with this comment, I do know that if you are running around randomly killing stuff, wraiths spawn rarely. However, lets say you go to an area to farm hides, and it is densely packed with mobs and you are pretty much killing non-stop, you will get one about every 7 minutes like clockwork. Again, not ideal, they should take this timer out and have them randomly spawn like when the server first opened, but this at least guarantees more wraith spawns than just randomly killing mobs that are scattered through out the map.
They don't pop if the mob is grey to you though so many of the places I have to farm for things are too low level to get wraiths.
 

Ecrinhael

Meowdy
They don't pop if the mob is grey to you though so many of the places I have to farm for things are too low level to get wraiths.
Same here at this point. I was just more saying that if you are in a spot to farm mobs that are light blue or higher to you, then you can spawn a wraith every 7 minutes (like in Forochel where I go). When I was on or slightly above level at the bears in Evendim near Ost Forod I'd get a wraith every 7 minutes. I do think they need to fix this, however, take the timer out and increase the spawn rate.
 
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