Our new 64-bit game worlds are now open!

FibroJedi

Chronic Event Guide Writer
@Weirdjedi has graciously provided us with the summary of Cord's most recent stream -> https://forums.lotro.com/index.php?threads/cord-of-the-rings-summary-list.2106/page-8#post-146996

  • We don't have a date for transfers yet. We are looking at early March (6min, 7min).
  • We are still getting the hardware in place and hooking up the software (9min, 10min).
  • The team is still determining the time between Update 43 with the new raid, transfers, and the Reward Track. The raid may come first (19min, 25min, 26min).
  • The time for 64-bit servers cannot be delayed or postponed when a date has not been made yet (31min).
  • A date should be provided 14 days before release (38min).
Thank you, and @Weirdjedi :) I logged in to find an update on this and voilà, an update that means I can ignore the transfers for the rest of February.
I really appreciate that.
 

Harvain

Well-known member
After 18 years I sure hope to keep my names. I already lost several names from an old fart who doesn't even play them.
That will be the nice thing with the 64-bit Servers. We are leaving behind "Inactive Accounts" on the 10 32-bit Servers and that will be opening up likely "Hundreds of Thousands of Names", if not even more, on any given upcoming 64-bit Server.

So while potentially "current names" might be lost there easily are going to be "many names" that people wanted but were locked behind an inactive account on any current server.
 

Ace141090

Well-known member
The FAQ say

"...
(STARTS DATE C): Our new game worlds open! Free transfers from 32-bit to 64-bit game worlds will continue through August 31st, 2025.
..."
What happens after August 31st, 2025 with transfers? Do we have to pay for transfers after that date if a32 bit world remains open? Will there be free transfers again later?
if they decide to close the 32 bit server, there will be a 100% chance to transfer characters for free again
 

maartena

Drinks Coffee All Day!
if they decide to close the 32 bit server, there will be a 100% chance to transfer characters for free again

I think the 31st of August date is just more of a placeholder..... so they have at least SOME date in place. At that point they will look at how many people still play on the 32-bit servers, and make a decision as to their future at that point. I believe that the 32-bit servers will close, but I understand that SSG wants to keep one foot in the door so to speak just in case it turns out very few people move to the new servers.
 

Gunhard

Well-known member
I think the 31st of August date is just more of a placeholder..... so they have at least SOME date in place. At that point they will look at how many people still play on the 32-bit servers, and make a decision as to their future at that point. I believe that the 32-bit servers will close, but I understand that SSG wants to keep one foot in the door so to speak just in case it turns out very few people move to the new serbig vers.
big kins will start to move and many ppl will move with them. i think mostly soloers will stay, or those who dont have time/play not regularly/dont wanna to deal with new houses. but transfer windows is big enough to take decision for transfer. if 32 bit worlds will be closed then moving inactive accounts to some of the new servers will be a good decision by devs. i dont believe all that data will be a problem for new servers and will affect those who play actively. but losing old toons/accounts might be. coz many ppl play different mmos from time to time and its sad to lose all you had. when swtor was merging servers coz of low population first transfers were option with very high discount. but when they had to merge again they moved all info from inactive accounts with all toons. servers upgrades were made in the same time pretty much. if this latest move of my toons wasnt made i would have lost all my toons and doubt i would play it again from the scratch
 

Harvain

Well-known member
big kins will start to move and many ppl will move with them. i think mostly soloers will stay, or those who dont have time/play not regularly/dont wanna to deal with new houses. but transfer windows is big enough to take decision for transfer.
Granted obviously not "everyone" has discussed how they feel & what they'll do once the 4 64-bit Servers & Transfers happen but there has been a very clear majority who "not only are ready to transfer but will be transferring as soon as it's available".

There will obviously be those fully sticking around a 32-bit Server(s) or partially but it's pretty clear a lot of people who "understand what is happening" & are among the "Active Players right now" will be moving ASAP.

if 32 bit worlds will be closed then moving inactive accounts to some of the new servers will be a good decision by devs. i dont believe all that data will be a problem for new servers and will affect those who play actively.
There is one key reason that we have to "Manually" Transfer and that is because we are leaving "Inactive Accounts" behind.

The main advantage for Players is that "Many Names" will now be 100% available that otherwise nobody could use on any 32-bit Server right now.

For the SSG LOTRO Team the advantage is that all those Inactive Accounts & Data won't be on the New 64-bit Servers. That will in it's own way help with "Per Server Performance" however how much of an impact it will have is to be seen.
  • AKA it'll help but it's not like "Inactive Account Data on a Server" is the main contributor to "lag".
but losing old toons/accounts might be. coz many ppl play different mmos from time to time and its sad to lose all you had. when swtor was merging servers coz of low population first transfers were option with very high discount. but when they had to merge again they moved all info from inactive accounts with all toons. servers upgrades were made in the same time pretty much. if this latest move of my toons wasnt made i would have lost all my toons and doubt i would play it again from the scratch
We do have the upcoming "Dark World/Closed Server" Transfers as well here later in 2025. So any "Inactive Account" on the 10 Main 32-bit Servers aren't in any danger, on paper, of losing their Account, Characters, etc.

But simply put LOTRO has a "lot of Inactive Accounts" and Players who in many cases have not only been gone for years but plenty for more than a decade.
 

webby08

Member
As a player returning from a decade’s absence, I’m looking forward to the dark world transfers. I have at least two higher level toons trapped on Vilya. Just not planning to stress over it, transfer a couple toons from BW and Landroval and enjoy the new servers while I wait to free my dark world toons.
 

maartena

Drinks Coffee All Day!
but losing old toons/accounts might be. coz many ppl play different mmos from time to time and its sad to lose all you had.

I kept track of all games I played. I check back on what EQ is doing from time to time, I have a lifer account for ST:O, I have some toons on FF14.... I don't check every month or whatever, but I keep informed of what is happening.

I think someone who has completely checked out of LOTRO, is not following any social media, does not log on to the forums, does not use any LOTRO affiliate discords, and doesn't check various gaming media/news websites from time to time...... has made the decision to completely leave the game behind. And although we all want our old friends to come back (I have like 20 of them in my Arkenstone friends list, mostly Riddermark transplants) it is just a fact of life that people have moved on.

The "dark world" transfers will eventually completely go away, so this will be a "last chance saloon" for those people. I would expect however that if the 32-bit worlds will close, that those worlds will become, for lack of a better term, the "NEW dark worlds" and are kept around for a few more years after closing.

At the end of the day though, keeping servers powered on to retain such data costs money. Money in electricity. Money in time/maintenance. Money in software licenses. Everything costs money, and SSG is not a company that has a massive Smaug in their office building basement, sitting on top of a massive stack of gold pilfered from us, the players. Whatever we spend on the game, pretty much goes back into the game, give or take a small "rainy day" fund to keep the doors open during bad economic times.

At some point..... they will have to call it quits. I played WildStar for a while, and quite heavily. Even made it to level cap. But.....as we all know it shut down, and with it I lost all my progress and characters.

And it may be handy to clarify here: You don't lose anything YOU had..... as YOU don't have anything. Everything, to the last copper in your wallet is all owned by SSG, no matter how much real cash you spent on it. "Buying" something in the store, is essentially "Leasing" it from the store, and SSG can revoke that lease at any time they see fit. You don't own your characters at all, they just allow you to use some virtual things on their servers as long as they see fit. And that is how it works with every MMO.
 

istvana

This *is* the other place.
There will obviously be those fully sticking around a 32-bit Server(s) or partially but it's pretty clear a lot of people who "understand what is happening" & are among the "Active Players right now" will be moving ASAP.

There will also be many hybrid approaches especially among players with no specific goals they want to accomplish within specified time frames. I for one will place a high priority on getting things set on the new servers since with a high level of probability those will be the only servers soon. I will move fast and I will buy houses fast.

But I may then spend a month on Crickhollow with new characters or characters I am in no hurry to transfer. Whose names are already safe or whose names are already lost. Just to enjoy a small, peaceful backwater of a server (after most of the people have left). Where progress is not artificially slowed as on Treebeard and where my time is not "wasted" since transfers off will be allowed later as well.
 

Derquin

Well-known member
SInce the start of the new servers seem to be in early March and the current Reward Track (already extended once) ends in about 9 days I wonder if it will be extended again. Or have they given up on starting the new Reward Track with the new servers?
 

Gunhard

Well-known member
SInce the start of the new servers seem to be in early March and the current Reward Track (already extended once) ends in about 9 days I wonder if it will be extended again. Or have they given up on starting the new Reward Track with the new servers?
i think it will be extended. so ppl can get little extra from playing before servers open
 

MadMax

Member
Sorry if this has been asked and answered. Does the kin leader receive the writs for the kin house or the original purchaser? In my kin, my moneybags toon on a different account purchased the house, then transferred leadership.
 

tuor66

Wanderer, often lost.
Sorry if this has been asked and answered. Does the kin leader receive the writs for the kin house or the original purchaser? In my kin, my moneybags toon on a different account purchased the house, then transferred leadership.
kin-leader
 

Arcuaglar

Member
As a lifer, I will certainly be trying to claw back some names that I made up in the early ‘80s for my table top D&D characters. They have been lost during various server closures since beta testing. As a newly retired person I hope to be able to jump on early in this proces.
 

Nonde

Well-known member
The wardrobe is not shared storage though.. They are 2 different things. I have wardrobe that was included in VIP, but, had to purchase shared storage. So I am a bit confused by that. I do not have room for 410 items in my wardrobe if I have to take everything out.
Do NOT remove from wardrobe. Not necessary as wardrobe is copied from server to server as it contains copies of cosmetics, not the actual items. If you remove the copy it will lost unless you retained the item in your inventory!!!
 

JohnMHammer

Well-known member
Do NOT remove from wardrobe. Not necessary as wardrobe is copied from server to server as it contains copies of cosmetics, not the actual items. If you remove the copy it will lost unless you retained the item in your inventory!!!
Correct. Also, items in Wardrobe can overcap as a result of a transfer.

If, for example, you have a maximum of 410 Wardrobe storage slots and it is completely full on the destination server, and on the source server that Wardrobe is also full with 410 different items; when a Shared Items transfer is performed from the source to the destination server the items in the source server's Wardrobe will be copied to the destination server's Wardrobe resulting in 820/410 items on the destination server.
 

Nonde

Well-known member
Chinese input numbers, while Russians input russian, in brandy. but without those, there would be none talking in WC, during server morning time.
It may be because of Russian language predominates on Brandy. I met someone who paid to transfer out because of it and it likely discourages folks from trying to carry on chats in English. Is DEF need for a Russian chat channel.
 
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