Housing Writ Return Adjustment
- Thread starter Cordovan
- Start date
Thank you for doing this!
Kaewin
Well-known member
So if we sold house right now we get the full refund today? I just want to be sure.
Cordovan
Community Manager
Yes.
Kaewin
Well-known member
Thank you. I have some alts moving from different NA servers and want just their premium homes to go to the main server I am going to play on when I combine things but not move those alts so I have high level alts on both servers.
Subscribe and you never need to worry. SSG has no desire to remove an incentive to subscribe. Your suggestion, to phrase it just a bit differently, would take away one of the existing VIP benefits.
Hoppendi
Well-known member
100$ a year for the privilege to not have to worry that ingame premium purchases for 20-30$ a piece could expire and lose money? No thanks that's to predatory for me.
SniperCT
Lady of the Silver Moon
This is great thank you! Are kinhouses also at 100% now?
Marmi
Completionist
It's one of many vip perks, you are not paying just for that and you surely know that.
Marmi
Completionist
Message from Cordovan is clear enough imo. you get 100% writs from selling premium houses. Only premium houses and all types of them cost writs, so obviously kinship premium houses too. You won't get writs from classic kinship (or personal) houses since you did not pay writs to buy them.
SniperCT
Lady of the Silver Moon
I agree with this tbh. losing 10% of your writs if you want to sell your house and get another one sucks, to say nothing if you lose it. I don't have to worry about the latter thing like, ever, but I still think it should be 100% always.
Allowing someone to sell a house for 100% instead of 90% writs is not going to remove any incentive to subscribe.
Hoppendi
Well-known member
That's the thing with bundles. If someone only wants one thing they are ONLY paying one thing and get the rest on top. If the reason on why they only give out part (i think 90%) of the housing cost for paying players because they don't join the vip and forgot or couldn't login in time then it's a predatory system and in fact very disheartening for non vips to invest in a house for fluff reasons. I know multiple players that never got one because of this and this is nothing to discuss about.
I just asked the forum team a simple question that's it and it would be better for them to leave it at 100% return, i don't know anyone deciding to go vip just for the housing reasons - but i do know multiple cases of passing on premium housing altogether.
Guess what: in another MMO i own 50 houses at a 10$ per piece rate and they don't expire. In Lotro i never bothered to buy premium housing.
P.S.: It's even crazy that they expire at all if bought with real money but that's beyond normalized for Lotro players so i am not even trying to discuss that part, actually don't want to discuss anything here, i just explained a problem they could solve.
Also for the incentive to go vip... i remember someone here on forums said the west-south bree quick travel should never be available for free so it's an incentive to go vip... lol
Kurgan Nazzir
Counter of Stairs
Premium homes should have always been a 100% refund since they are real money houses. Sure, we get LP each month with a sub (or Lifetime) and we can get MC in Hobbit gifts, but no matter how you slice it these are homes that cost real money, not to mention those who buy points.
EdwardMorgan
The Red Reaper
I haven't gotten Mithril coins in a hobbit gift in quite a few years. Not sure you even can anymore?
JohnMHammer
Well-known member
I think that the rationale for receiving fewer writs for a sale is to disincentivize frequent flipping.
It’s a shame that the 100% writ return isn’t being applied to the new 64-bit servers for a month because there is going to be a lot of flipping in the beginning as players rush to grab the specific address they want but then more calmly consider where their kin-mates and friends have settled. Then there’s the true housing aficionados who will negotiate with their new neighbors to acquire the full neighborhoods they couldn’t get for their exclusive use in the first days.
Echoweaver
Meddler in the affairs of wizards
There's no VIP benefit that grants 100% writs when selling a premium house. The VIP benefit is not having to pay upkeep, and that's just game currency.
Hoppendi
Well-known member
i thought they meant that vip automatically pays upkeep since they said "Subscribe and you never need to worry" - if vip doesn't automatically pay upkeep (and obviously won't give 100% back) the statement would be completely false.
Herbythyme
Simply a point on the Way
Yep - it's automatic
Derquin
Well-known member
Got some on Mordor not so long ago. Before that I have gotten them only once since start of that system.