Thread: Game System: Tavern Revelries

i think this idea fits beautifully within the lore and spirit of the Lord of the Rings

/signed

Originally Posted by drsmoothsrs

i think this idea fits beautifully within the lore and spirit of the Lord of the Rings

/signed

I think the fact that this idea is NOT implemented in the game is in violation of the lore.

So I just checked out the "Unlock the Mines of Moria" home page. It extols the new arms & armour, the ancient evil deep in the earth that's even stronger than what we've faced so far, the level raise to 60.

How again does any of this relate to the Middle-Earth that JRRT envisioned and that so many of us have come to love through his writings? I admit, I like the talk of crafting weaponry that can grow with you and become imbued with deep traits, like Glamdring and Sting were. But so much of this is so played-out, and so... predictable. Seriously, "Conquer the World Beneath"? Step back, please. Before you go and make a mockery of Middle-Earth.

To any Dev who is actually reading this post, Hayoo has given here a vision of how to give LOTRO a breath of real life, real entertainment, real community-building. A real, honorable way to live the books the way so many of us have envisioned living them. A way to get people jazzed about coming online and staying online. Following this lead could take LOTRO in truly new, amazing directions. You guys have a -gold mine- here for role-players who really want to dive into a mythical world that they already conceive in their minds.

So I implore you, for crying out loud, stop the madness. Don't turn this game into a bunch of over-bulked, hyper-testosteroned, glowing, gleaming demi-Gods who are even able to kill Melkor's finest. That is a path of silliness. Stop, sit back, be true to the world that has been placed in your lap.

- Harry
Aethelberht, Hobbit Burglar Level 37
Currently awaiting inspiration, and wavering

Originally Posted by aethelberht

So I just checked out the "Unlock the Mines of Moria" home page. It extols the new arms & armour, the ancient evil deep in the earth that's even stronger than what we've faced so far, the level raise to 60.

How again does any of this relate to the Middle-Earth that JRRT envisioned and that so many of us have come to love through his writings? I admit, I like the talk of crafting weaponry that can grow with you and become imbued with deep traits, like Glamdring and Sting were. But so much of this is so played-out, and so... predictable. Seriously, "Conquer the World Beneath"? Step back, please. Before you go and make a mockery of Middle-Earth.

To any Dev who is actually reading this post, Hayoo has given here a vision of how to give LOTRO a breath of real life, real entertainment, real community-building. A real, honorable way to live the books the way so many of us have envisioned living them. A way to get people jazzed about coming online and staying online. Following this lead could take LOTRO in truly new, amazing directions. You guys have a -gold mine- here for role-players who really want to dive into a mythical world that they already conceive in their minds.

So I implore you, for crying out loud, stop the madness. Don't turn this game into a bunch of over-bulked, hyper-testosteroned, glowing, gleaming demi-Gods who are even able to kill Melkor's finest. That is a path of silliness. Stop, sit back, be true to the world that has been placed in your lap.

- Harry
Aethelberht, Hobbit Burglar Level 37
Currently awaiting inspiration, and wavering

Before you over-analyze the marketing hyperbole for Volume II, understand that the entire point of that language is to make it sound as exciting as possible to lure in new subscribers and keep the old ones. Don't expect to actually 'conquer' anything, including Melkor's finest, as you put it.

/signed!!!

hey hayoo, are you planning on updating the visions of the ring site soon due to the new expansion?

Originally Posted by Strider5548

/signed!!!

hey hayoo, are you planning on updating the visions of the ring site soon due to the new expansion?

Working on it. Have to shift all the 18 month expansions back to 12 months (and I just changed it from last Xmas based on player feedback. Curse you Turbine!)

Originally Posted by Taralom

/signed.

Love this idea. Absolutely love it.

Originally Posted by YippyJoe

Wow, count me /signed as well. An excellent idea!

Originally Posted by Strider5548

Seriously, let's get ALL these tavern ideas implemented.

Originally Posted by valkynphyre

another post for the list

Originally Posted by LittleG7

/signed once
/signed twice
/signed three times!

Originally Posted by Moriaiwe

/resigned

Gimmee!

Originally Posted by Ceinwen7777777

Wonderful idea!

/signed

Originally Posted by drsmoothsrs

i think this idea fits beautifully within the lore and spirit of the Lord of the Rings

/signed

Originally Posted by Strider5548

I think the fact that this idea is NOT implemented in the game is in violation of the lore.

Originally Posted by aethelberht

So I just checked out the "Unlock the Mines of Moria" home page. It extols the new arms & armour, the ancient evil deep in the earth that's even stronger than what we've faced so far, the level raise to 60.

How again does any of this relate to the Middle-Earth that JRRT envisioned and that so many of us have come to love through his writings? I admit, I like the talk of crafting weaponry that can grow with you and become imbued with deep traits, like Glamdring and Sting were. But so much of this is so played-out, and so... predictable. Seriously, "Conquer the World Beneath"? Step back, please. Before you go and make a mockery of Middle-Earth.

To any Dev who is actually reading this post, Hayoo has given here a vision of how to give LOTRO a breath of real life, real entertainment, real community-building. A real, honorable way to live the books the way so many of us have envisioned living them. A way to get people jazzed about coming online and staying online. Following this lead could take LOTRO in truly new, amazing directions. You guys have a -gold mine- here for role-players who really want to dive into a mythical world that they already conceive in their minds.

So I implore you, for crying out loud, stop the madness. Don't turn this game into a bunch of over-bulked, hyper-testosteroned, glowing, gleaming demi-Gods who are even able to kill Melkor's finest. That is a path of silliness. Stop, sit back, be true to the world that has been placed in your lap.

- Harry
Aethelberht, Hobbit Burglar Level 37
Currently awaiting inspiration, and wavering

...sorry I just couldn't resist pointing these out... keep 'em coming!

Originally Posted by Gumawerian

...sorry I just couldn't resist pointing these out... keep 'em coming!

Seriously, and there are tons more. Just look through the 20 something pages of positive replies. I have not heard ONE flame or ONE "i don't want this in game" from anyone..every single other idea I've seen on the threads has had at least one negative reply.

Originally Posted by Strider5548

Seriously, and there are tons more. Just look through the 20 something pages of positive replies. I have not heard ONE flame or ONE "i don't want this in game" from anyone..every single other idea I've seen on the threads has had at least one negative reply.

I don't not want this in the game!

quote: We are adding vast amounts of content, debuting massive new environments and unveiling numerous unique feature sets, like item advancement, which will create entirely new dimensions of compelling game play and """social interaction""" which are unique to The Lord of the Rings Online experience.


do we dare hope?

dovie

I hope this image doesn't break the page.

In addition to Merriment and Reputation I've been working on Rented Housing for Taverns as well.



Hmm. This might derail thread. Will make another once images are done. Consider this another teaser.

Originally Posted by Hayoo

I hope this image doesn't break the page.

In addition to Merriment and Reputation I've been working on Rented Housing for Taverns as well.



Hmm. This might derail thread. Will make another once images are done. Consider this another teaser.

I've been pushing for rented housing for a long time with my idea of extra hope bonus for logging out in safe areas. People would have incentives to log out in rented rooms in taverns for a boost of hope when they log back in...I wish Hayoo worked for Turbine..

Part of Tavern systems: Gaining rep with each tavern allows you to receive region-specific mail, hints, announcements, quests and such from their owners

lol Classic Hayoo keep em comming as always. I look forward for what you next you have in store for us.

Originally Posted by Moriaiwe

Dear Turbine,

Please hire Hayoo ASAP. His ideas and concepts are fantastic, and would breathe fresh life into not only LOTRO, but into the MMORPG genre as a whole. His ideas postulated in this thread are not in any other game that I know of, and Turbine has a real chance to do something revolutionary, which is getting harder and harder to pull off in today's gaming market.

Thank you,
Moriaiwe

Holding onto what little hope I have, I second this sentiment.

Well I posted here once proclaiming what a fantastic idea this was, but I think it's worthy of repetition.

Awesome idea!

By now it's obvious the devs have read it, but I doubt it will be implemented. Which is too bad. The fact that it's very specific and came from a player rather than themselves probably rules it out in their minds.

Pride can be a good thing now and then, but generally it just gums up the works.

Oh well, at least you can take pride in the knowledge you thought up something that would be great if implemented.

/sign lol i love it you obviously put alot of work into this and its and amazing idea never the less and its apperent alot of others agree its a great idea lol

It comes down to available resources and following the development plans and technical limits they already had in place long before I even started posting anything.

Revelries is a somewhat involved adaptation of Maneuvers. You have to admit it'd be a lot easier to just put a hope or rest XP bonus on the whole tavern (like another game does ) and hope that players gather there and socialize naturally (we already have Bards, Healers, and Barbers in there, even if only in the major towns).

What I hope is that the idea of a non-combat social mini-game, done in locations scattered throughout the game, appeals to some part of their overall plan, whatever form it may take.

Fishing, so they said, wasn't in the plan, but the playerbase called for it so much that it is now coming. That's not to say thousands of supporters will get this idea made, but if enough players say they want something for taverns, then it may make a difference in the future.

signed, please look into an idea like this.

Signed as well. Great thought put into this Hayoo. You should get some title in-game for this contribution. It is people like you which make me love this gaming community!

holy **** that is awesome. i hope the devs have read this as i would love to see something similar implemented to the game

Damn, how long did that take you? I think it's incredible and a fantastic idea to take the fellowship conjunction and use it for other situations.

Tavern Revelries FTW!!

/Signed

Really well done work.

/signed.

24 pages....

...i guess its time for me to tag along

indeed, that looks amazing!

/signed.

I can so no more than has already been said by others - brilliant!

/signed

/signed

I'd spend more of my time engaging in this kind of play than hack and slash all the time. Well done!!

/signed

My name is TsarithArcher and I approve this message.

BTW, Hayoo, I know it has been said many times over in this thread, but your idea is not only a great one, but you've presented it so very well. Kudos to you!!!

I only wish that more people could do as you have done by providing great suggestions with the same kind of level of attention and detail you have rather than just whine about what they don't like or demand what they think they should have. If more people could follow your example then we would probably see a lot more user-suggestions implemented with each update. (After all, how many times must the poor Devs have to endure another request for a Gimme-This-Feature-Now-Because-I'm-Entitled-D@*#-It!)

...The only way for a community like ours to bring out an idea like this one is to keep pushing for it. Thanks to everyone for posting!

/signed

This has the potential to dramatically increase role-playing and character socialization!

Your design of this system was so wonderful that I actually thought you copied this from a Dev post! This is fabulous, well done!

The potential of this proposition is undeniable!
/signed

Xriot

amazing!!!

/signed

Much appreciated, guys. Thank you.

/signed again

i think its about time for this to be considered... again. Cmon devs. you got an expansion coming up. add this in there with it.

/resigned
/reresigned
/rereresigned

no, i didn't just resign.

Originally Posted by valkynphyre

/resigned
/reresigned
/rereresigned

no, i didn't just resign.

/rerereresigned

cmon, this has to get in game. /SIGNED!!!!

/signed again

/signed again

nice idea.

Originally Posted by ratto

nice idea.

ROFL. I guess that settles it then.