also notice how those sets give only 2 and 4 piece boni - so we obviously are expected to mix and match.
E.g.: one can go for the 4 set bonus of ancient master, while incorporating the 2 piece bonus of animal friend.
Or go for the 4 piece DPS bonus, while going for the +5 second mezz of ancient master (but has to give up the +5% burning ember bonus from the legendary boots to do so).
I'm thinking I'm going to go 2 E-Animal Friend (for the extra incoming healing on Water-lore), 2 H-Animal Friend (for the extra pulses on Water-Lore), and 2 blue Moors (for the Beacon HoT that happens all the time, as opposed to the E-Animal Friend's 30% chance and 1m30s cooldown on an extra stack of Water-Lore pulses).
The Blinding Flash bonus has never impressed me, but I might get that set anyway, for the crit defense debuff. (Pretty sure that's the same debuff that was on the Draigoch armour, but worded differently.)
Might get four of the Fury set to pair with 2 of the redline Moors set as well.
I'm thinking I'm going to go 2 E-Animal Friend (for the extra incoming healing on Water-lore), 2 H-Animal Friend (for the extra pulses on Water-Lore), and 2 blue Moors (for the Beacon HoT that happens all the time, as opposed to the E-Animal Friend's 30% chance and 1m30s cooldown on an extra stack of Water-Lore pulses).
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you'll need(if nothing changes regarding the HB-set) 3 pieces of the Hytboldset to get the extra pulses on waterlore.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you'll need(if nothing changes regarding the HB-set) 3 pieces of the Hytboldset to get the extra pulses on waterlore.
All sets, including Hytbold, changed to the new 2 and 4 set bonus setup. The only sets that may not have changed are those sets that used a 4 and 6 setup previously, though those should have also converted to 2 and 4.
Nah, not really. The whole point of them moving the bonuses down was so that you could mix and match from different sets or use multiple pieces that weren't attached to a set without losing bonuses. Putting a 6-set bonus on would mean you'd have to wear all 6 from that set, couldn't use any gold pieces (class items & Horse-Lords pieces) and gear drops which are already underused would become entirely obsolete.
I'm thinking I'm going to go 2 E-Animal Friend (for the extra incoming healing on Water-lore), 2 H-Animal Friend (for the extra pulses on Water-Lore), and 2 blue Moors (for the Beacon HoT that happens all the time, as opposed to the E-Animal Friend's 30% chance and 1m30s cooldown on an extra stack of Water-Lore pulses).
The Blinding Flash bonus has never impressed me, but I might get that set anyway, for the crit defense debuff. (Pretty sure that's the same debuff that was on the Draigoch armour, but worded differently.)
If the OD set gets scaled then it should be far superior coupled with the Water-lore pulses. 2-set Beacon HoT / 4-set AOE flank heals, was very potent @ 65 and even at 75.
I do hope they fix the Hytbold water-lore 3-set though, the inc heal modifier only lasts the skills base 32s and doesn't scale to the 44s from the bonus.
40s BF duration (4 Iordúr/2 Erebor) will be handy too for trash, i'm also curious if we can wear 2x T1/2x T2 pieces for double 2-set bonus, which could mean +6% inc heal bonus to water-lore and +10s BF duration.
Though +11% inc heal from one water-lore may be a bit overpowered
If the OD set gets scaled then it should be far superior coupled with the Water-lore pulses. 2-set Beacon HoT / 4-set AOE flank heals, was very potent @ 65 and even at 75.
Yeah, if it's a choice between an extra +3% incoming healing on Water Lore or Fellowship Flank heals, I'll be going 4 OD/2Hytbold Healer. However, we've been asking pretty repeatedly if they're actually scaling the armour, and all we've seen is that the 65 set is gonna be in the skirmish camp (presumably because Northmen medallions are going away), and nothing on an actual 85 set.
Of course, even if Fellowship Flanking comes back I might still run 2/2/2 for several instances where my pet has a higher than normal chance of dying or when I have to keep it on passive. If the pet isn't flanking, fellowship flank heals aren't going to help me more than the incoming healing bonus on Water-Lore.
Wow, love all of them. Especially that DPS set. Should be a nice boost to our damage.
What I love the most is the variety we have now with 2/4 set bonuses. It will definitely help with our healing role especially when the OD sets are scaled.
Will the HB animalfriendset be fixed? If not, then there already is groupheal through flanking. I really would love to know if it's a bug or a incomplete tooltip...
4 HB 2 new set for even stronger waterlore would be fine I guess.
i'm also curious if we can wear 2x T1/2x T2 pieces for double 2-set bonus,
I'm curious about stacking as well.
I did check one thing on BR last night. You can stack the 10% bonus from Storm Caller (2 piece) with the 10% bonus from Hytbold Fury (4 piece). Note that this does not translate to a 20% bonus due to how damage is calculated, but you definitely do more damage with both sets on at the same time.
Now.. ROLF>> Do you see that the T2 Animal Friend has a GUARDIAN bonus on it for Catch a Breath?
and.. umm .. SERIOUSLY? I hope OP was level 1 when he made those screenies.. Says T2 Animal Friend adds a HOT that heals 5-7 morale plus that per tick? What, is it only for pets that are out of combat?
Sigh.. and T1 MoNF set bonus is BE reduces cooldown on ENTS by ZERO seconds? And ummm for T2, we are supposed to follow LotRD with - Lightning Storm, not our capstone ISG?
Least the T2 AM set applies a debuff to Crit Defence to THE MOB.. Wonder if the new mobs will be crit happy on the flip side.. Poor wardens...
Rockx.. I hope you were joking with these..
Oh, and the costs are PURELY on BR.. don't expect them to be that cheap live.
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This is beta; obviously some things are bugged/typoed/misrepresented etc. The end of the world isn't near. Relax.
In fact, the LotrD reducing Lightning Storm's CD is actually better than a lot of DPS bonuses I've seen. Let's say you cast LotrD every time it's off CD (which is 15s DPS specced, but lets add the animation and be generous by saying 20s). Then in the course of 3 minutes you've cast it about 9 times, reducing the CD by 108s. This means that by the time LotrD comes online again, you can cast Lightning Storm, giving the skill an effective CD of a little over 3 minutes (compare that to Orthanc DPS and the old Rift set which had a flat reduction to a 4 minute CD).
All sets I have seen on BR are sets at 2 bonus and 4 bonus (including Moors). In addition, OD is not a scaled set, however, if you want the BoH heal, you can slot 2 from the Moors set and then have 6 pieces that all contribute toward healing.
I'd prefer 4 Hytbold animalfriend and 2 pieces of the new set for healing. The longer waterlore, 8% incoming healing for each waterlore effect and groupwide flankheals are pretty nice.
I'd prefer 4 Hytbold animalfriend and 2 pieces of the new set for healing. The longer waterlore, 8% incoming healing for each waterlore effect and groupwide flankheals are pretty nice.
New set only give you 3% more, not （5+3）% for each.
Hytbold set only make HOT longer,incoming healing effict still 32s.
Perhaps this is just me, but those Animal-Friend bonuses seem weak to me.
+3% Incoming healing is ok, but we already get the +5% from Water-Lore. Especially when you compare the Hytbold bonus: +3 Water-Lore pulses, which amounts to about +40% healing from WL each time it's cast. (11 pulses, vs 8).
The final bonus, as far as I can tell, is that you have a 30% chance to apply Water-Lore. While this might also be nice, BoH has such a long cooldown, that this won't be a reliable boost. (Basically, you will likely get an extra 32 sec HoT every 4.5-6 minutes)
Imho, Coordination is one of the best Blue-Bonuses out there. Pets tend to crit at least once every 20 seconds (the birds crit even more). A know losing a 1.5 second induction might not seem like much, but when you get it once every 20 seconds, it is a great help to your skill.
Finally, these are nothing compared to the OD set bonuses: AoE flank heals and guaranteed BoH HoT.
I dunno. What do you guys think?
(BTW, I think that these red and yellow line bonuses are much better than the ones currently available from Hytbold.)
New set only give you 3% more, not （5+3）% for each.
And 5 + 3 is... 8!!! So there isn't anything wrong with "8% incoming healing for each waterlore effect".
Originally Posted by beldevoch
Finally, these are nothing compared to the OD set bonuses: AoE flank heals and guaranteed BoH HoT.
Check the Hytbold animalfriendset. Even if it's not written in the tooltip, the 4 piece bonus provides groupwide flankheals.
Bug? Feature? Lazy tooltipwriter? Who knows, but this bonus exists for quite some time now.
And 5 + 3 is... 8!!! So there isn't anything wrong with "8% incoming healing for each waterlore effect".
Check the Hytbold animalfriendset. Even if it's not written in the tooltip, the 4 piece bonus provides groupwide flankheals.
Bug? Feature? Lazy tooltipwriter? Who knows, but this bonus exists for quite some time now.
I said 'not （5+3）% for each.'
In live, 3 stack waterlore give 5%*3=15% incoming healing.
In B4 with New set 3, stack waterlore give 5%*3+3%=18% incoming healing.
It says the buff for Water-Lore is increased by 3%. It doesn't say that it gives an additional 3% bonus, which could be interpreted either way. If the buff for Water-Lore increases by 3%, that means each pulse is (supposed to) increase. Either they need to rephase the set bonus if it's only supposed to apply an additional 3% boost, or they need to fix the bonus itself.
Last I knew the 3% was unintentionally going to the LM instead, but I haven't checked B4.
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