Legendary items have long since gone stale. Is there anything on the plate for the future for changing them up?
We're on Round 8 of doing nearly the same thing. Work to get 2nd Age. Grind IXP, relics, etc. Use 2nd Age to get 1st Age. Do the exact same thing and put the exact same legacies on the 1st Age. Level. Destroy 1st Age. Build 2nd Age exactly the same as 1st Age. Use 2nd Age to get a 1st Age....
And so on. Is this the way we can expect to do things until the game shuts down? Because it stopped being fun about 3 years ago. The only changes since we traded frustration (by not being able to swap legacies) for the store (LIs identify with low tier legacies, only rank up 1 with reforge, replaced legacies start at T2) are new relics that are no more interesting than the old ones, Star-lit crystals, and Crystals of Remembrance.
I don't mind grinds, but I at least like the illusion that I'm making my character better. I'll kill 450 Dourhands for 3 Vitality. Whatever. LIs were refreshing at the start, since it added a new dimension to our characters, but it's now old and crusty.
I think it's time for a new system. LIs are good where they are, in terms of the finished product--give us a way to reforge our existing L85 LIs into L95 ones with a single item, and put a grind in somewhere else to keep the TP flowing. Mounts will never be necessary enough to rake in much cash, but maybe develop legendary cloaks or armour or jewelry or something (so long as we only have to grind LI weapon/class items once).
Work like no one is watching, dance like you don't need the money...
I feel ya on this, i did the grind for lvl 85 LI's on my rk but now the fact that i still have to do it on my hunter has been keeping me from leveling him. It's obnoxious, it's repetitive, i mean as if questing the same areas a second time isn't redundant enough knowing i'll have to do LI's all over is yuck.
at least my hunter only uses 2 of his LI slots so leveling and extracting legs as i go won't be anything challenging it'd just be nice to not have to do the whole empowerment scroll grind for a change lol
I don't mind the grind, if it weren't so much like running in place. Or like climbing a hill. You get to the top, and all of a sudden, level cap increase and you're at the bottom. Sure, we can climb back up the hill, but the view's the same as it was when you were up there before. No progress.
Even with the actual leveling process, it changes every time with unique quests and new skills. Much more interesting than just grinding marks (or spending gold or cash) for the same empowerment scrolls with a different name.
Work like no one is watching, dance like you don't need the money...
What makes Crafting, Virtue, Skirmish Soldier and now War-Steed bearable to the point of almost no issue is that new grind is out on TOP of the old one. With each level cap raise, you have about 2 Virtue ranks (multiplied by 5 virtues), 1 full Crafting Tier, 10 Skirmish Soldier ranks and ??? War-Steed levels to go through before you can feel satisfied and done with it for about a year. Existing progress does not get taken away. While with LIs we have to start from SCRATCH each time.
Pick a 3rd age LI. Meh, even with lower DPS by previous 2nd age is still cool. Get a Symbol (an achievement in itself!), craft LI or have someone do it for you, level it to level 30-39, disable leveling for a time, level other LIs to level 31+ until you can get all the legacies you want and put it onto Second Age one. Apply Delving Scroll. Level LI to level 70. Acquire and apply a title scroll. Get enough Empowerment Scrolls to get all essential legacies maxed. Slot the best relics you can afford (again, making L80-85 melded ones is already a huge grind!). Apply star-lit crystals if you're a serious raider. And then be prepared to throw it away, just like your previous near-perfect 2nd age LI you just deconstructed.
THEN you repeat this at least once for class item, THEN you decide if it's worth to work on your bridle, and THEN you may have to build LIs for alternate roles - Champs and Hunters do easily with one of each type, but tanks/healers require both a weapon and class item for each role to be able to do both solo and group content properly. And I hear that some classes like Captains or LMs pretty much requires to have 6 different LIs!
In short, I agree, repeating this for your main character alone 4 times over the years is a stretch. Add some alts and it becomes a black hole sucking everything in. It has got to the point and after Rohan I simply couldn't be bothered with and still use my L75 LIs - even for raiding. I may get new weapons eventually, but only after Symbols arrive at skirmish camp. Otherwise, it's just a huge, months-long time sink.
Something has to be done with this. But seeing how LI-related items are among the best-selling ones in the Store, I honestly don't see how. Let's say Turbine decides to address this and lets us keep LIs we create with level cap raise - we would still need a grind to bring them up to new standards, but at least we would be working with something where the basics are ALREADY in place. Well, if they do that, Store sales will drop dramatically. Relic Removal Scrolls, Empowerment Scrolls, Delving Scrolls, Legacy Replacement Scrolls, Relic packs, Star-Lit Crystals, Rememberance Crystals - players would have a much lower demand for those if they could keep 3-year old LIs and have them remain viable. Store Sales Drop - either WB intervenes and makes Turbine revert changes or the game faces a financial crisis and may face shutdown.
It's a Catch-22, people. I don't see a realistic solution.
I agree with the OP, and this is one of the main reasons why I stopped playing the game after four years of being a complete LOTRO junkie (the other reason is how they have broken the Moors, but that's a different subject). The LI grind is just the complete and utter opposite of fun. And this is coming from someone that has an extremely high tolerance for grind - I had seven characters at 75, and they were all raid ready, with 13 level 75 first age LIs all maxxed out. It's just not fun, and the exact opposite of "legendary". I hope Turbine changes something or I really don't see myself coming back any time soon.
i too agree that the grind for LI's (as well as other things) is a real bore. i have 11 alts in total which include 6 level 85's and a level 83. to be honest i cant even be bothered to level up my other alts as i dread the grind. I am sooooo bored with all these grinds, grinds for LI's, grinds for armour (hytbold), grinds for marks/meds/seals etc and fed up doing loads of raids with very little chance of anything decent dropping. Today i have cancelled my vip subscription and have already started looking at what other games there are out there for me to play instead of lotro. i have played this game a very long time and i love it, but hate the amount of grinding i have to do. some people play this game for hours every night, while other players cannot play that often and for those people the grind is far too much. Lets take hytbold for example, it takes a minimum of 44 days doing hytbold daily's every single day to get the armour. However, for someone who can only play say a couple of days a week it could take them the best part of a year to get the armour, 2nd agers etc and by the time they have it, a new expansion will be out with more grinding for more armour & LI's. I myself play everyday so i am one of the lucky ones who can get the better stuff sooner, but having to do it on so many alts makes it even more boring. Yes, i hear you saying "well u should not have so many alts then" but the only reson i have so many alts, is due to the fact that once you hit max level the game becomes boring doing the same thing over & over again. So people roll out more alts to break up the boredom, which means more grinding in the long run (it's a vicious circle). The other reason for me cancelling my subscription, is due to the fact that there are serious issues in this game that have needed fixing for a very long time such as certain instances, lag etc and instead of working on this, all turbine do is think of ways to con more money out of us by coming up with more ways of making us spend TP. I understand that as a company, turbine need to make money and profit, but they have overdone it. They have become far too greedy and it seems that they are more interested in making money than in making this game more enjoyable for us the players. Let's face it, without us, turbine would not be in business as we are the ones that are paying our hard earned money to play this game, so is it to much to ask that turbine stop being so greedy and actually make this game more enjoyable? We want to continue to enjoy this great game, but are not going to do so if it becomes too expensive & boring to do so. Please, please, please turbine, make this game great again like it used to be without all these stupid new ways for you to make money and without all the extra grind to get the best things. Have a grind, yes, but dont make it ridiculously long. We are not stupid and we know that the reason you have so many grinds in the game is to make people spend TP in the store because they don't have the time or can't be bothered to do the grind (i refer to being able to buy empowered scrolls, legacies etc instead of grinding for them) and as such some people will spend TP on these items. It's ok if you can afford it, but most people cannot do so and as such have no choice but to grind. So in effect, all you are doing is saying to people "if you don't want to do the stupid long grind, then give us your money and you wont have to". THAT IS JUST PURE GREED !!!!!!
They have made several changes which appear to have the goal of funneling people in to really picking a main character and tweaking that character as opposed to being able to tweak 8 alts with every level cap increase. Longer grind means the appearance of more content, which will (theoretically) keep people progressing their characters for longer periods of time before they have to repeat the same content on another toon to continue playing the game.
A lot of players get to the end on their main toon and, if the end game grind is too short or not compelling enough, they will stop playing. I have seen this time and time again in kins. A lot of players also play one toon and see no point of having 8 alts to the same content and grind. Whereas, alt-a-holics may tweak their first toon, maybe the second, maybe just level the third, fourth, etc for crafting purposes. At that point when you are four alts deep in the new content, you have already spent way more than the average time spent and Turbine is happy. It is all a numbers game, they implement systems that will keep those that do play playing longer (Hytbold is an amazing example of this, which I refused to do by the way, and still have fun playing the games with friends and am not worried that all my toons dont have hytbold armor). On average, hytbold, legendary items, level gated crafting recipes, all of these things have resulted in more player hours, even considering those that quit because they hate the systems.
I think that a lot of us that have been playing forever look at it though that lens and see all the numbers falling off the cliff in our kins. We do not necessarily see all the new small kins, solo players, casual players, low level players, etc, that come to the game and have never experienced the content, its all fresh and pretty deep and if it weren't there they would be gone from the game sooner due to lack of content variety. At some point, there will be a breaking point where old players tire of the content and leave in sufficient numbers that the game will no longer be as accessable and fun to new players due to lack of mentorship and experienced population. I do not think we have seen this point yet, but it will theoretically come if Turbne does not inject any new fresh and fun ideas into their end-game content hamster-wheel.
I've said this a thousand times, but no one ever seems to listen.
We NEED to update our LI system. It is old, overused, and nothing new has been implemented since they were introduced!
An idea often suggested is the ability to design your own LI. This personally would make me very happy, and I hope to one day see something like this implemented.
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Actually they did somewhat revamp the LI system. When they were initially introduced:
1) You couldn't transfer legacies at all, so you you went through an endless grind of the LI lottery to get one that actually had all the legacies you wanted, which was almost never
2) There were a variety of totally useless legacies i.e. Mentor cooldown legacy for minstrels?
3) Your LI had a chance to ID with up to 4 legacies initially, which mean youcould have 7 legacies if you were lucky
4) Your relics would automatically be removed instead of destroyed when you deconned, except for crafting relics.
They allowed extracting legacies from a lvl 30+ item, standardized all ID's to 3 legacies, destroyed all relics on deconn (except with a relic removal scrool - available from the store) and tried to remove what players generally considered useless legacies.
You absolutely can create your own LI with the exact set of legacies you want on the weapon you want, but it's a grind and still requires multiple 'legendary' items to be levelled and deconned.
However, I agree with your sentiment I think - 'Legendary' items as implemented just don't feel legendary and are just fodder for the mill to eventually get what you want after you melt down enough of them. Somehow it feels like I'm picking up the trash from some older age that seemed to have the attention span of a gnat when it came to keeping track of their weapons..
I understand why the system is the way it is. I don't begrudge them wanting to make money on LI upgrades, I just think there's a point where it becomes stale. I don't think they should resist changing it just because it's not stale to newer players. You want some sort of veteran player stability in the game, I think.
Moving away from the weapon/class item treadmill and toward something else would have the effect of spicing things up again, and also making the "Legendary" title feel more appropriate. It might even make a good bit of money if they were to implement some other legendary stuff retroactively.
Let LI weapon/class items open at 45. Make it so you level and perfect legacies/tiers once, and upgrade levels with items you receive as quest (for 3rd Age) instance (2nd age) and raid (1st Age) rewards.
Introduce legendary cloaks at L65, and do the same. Maybe focus legacies on something other than combat. Same upgrade process as weapons.
Introduce legendary necklaces at L85, etc...
Or something like that. Replace the TP income from current LIs with a grind somewhere else.
Work like no one is watching, dance like you don't need the money...
As a relativly new player: 5-6 months, now lvl 60+ champ. I enjoy the LI system as far as crafting my own made me feel good, and the grind is not something I have had to deal with yet.
There are so many good threads here about what's wrong with the Legendary system and ways it could be improved. They are all pretty much spot on and they go back for a long time, and no attention seems to have been paid to much of them since they let us swap legacies years ago.
Which is a shame because the system could be a real bonus to this game, instead of something you pay as little attention to as possible lest it irritate the hell out of you with it's non lore repetitive grindiness.
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As a relativly new player: 5-6 months, now lvl 60+ champ. I enjoy the LI system as far as crafting my own made me feel good, and the grind is not something I have had to deal with yet.
See, when you're forced to destroy your favorite LI that you have been working on for so long and start from scratch five to six times in a row, then you'll get how we feel now.
See, when you're forced to destroy your favorite LI that you have been working on for so long and start from scratch five to six times in a row, then you'll get how we feel now.
This.
I still cant forget my first 2nd age sword back at 65 when there was no legacies swapping, perfect one with 4 majors, my total pride and joy. Since I deconed it no LI ever felt legendary again
As a relativly new player: 5-6 months, now lvl 60+ champ. I enjoy the LI system as far as crafting my own made me feel good, and the grind is not something I have had to deal with yet.
Please post again when you are level 85. We would love to hear an updated opinion.
To me, what makes legendary items feel less than legendary is the fact that they drop from every other humanoid in the world, resulting in bags full of "legendary" junk.
My solution? Remove all 3rd agers from loot tables. Replace them with fused T1 relics or something. Instead hand out a 3rd ager of choice as quest rewards, probably part of the epic line. That way you can still upgrade every so often while having a sense of accomplishment. Perhaps make legacies more chooseable to compensate for the lack of items to decon for the ones we want. Or just keep crafted 3rd agers as a source of extra items.
Or, make them really legendary. The ones you get in Moria are the only ones all game long. The minimum level of the weapon is the same as your level, so it slowly gets more powerful over time. Add 3 starlit crystals and it turns into a 2nd ager. 3 more for a 1st ager. 3 more and it's maxed out. Item xp would probably go away, or change, since it'd hit maximum pretty quick. Maybe just allow a tier upgrade every 5 levels to let it grow.
To me, what makes legendary items feel less than legendary is the fact that they drop from every other humanoid in the world, resulting in bags full of "legendary" junk.
My solution? Remove all 3rd agers from loot tables. Replace them with fused T1 relics or something. Instead hand out a 3rd ager of choice as quest rewards, probably part of the epic line. That way you can still upgrade every so often while having a sense of accomplishment. Perhaps make legacies more chooseable to compensate for the lack of items to decon for the ones we want. Or just keep crafted 3rd agers as a source of extra items.
Or, make them really legendary. The ones you get in Moria are the only ones all game long. The minimum level of the weapon is the same as your level, so it slowly gets more powerful over time. Add 3 starlit crystals and it turns into a 2nd ager. 3 more for a 1st ager. 3 more and it's maxed out. Item xp would probably go away, or change, since it'd hit maximum pretty quick. Maybe just allow a tier upgrade every 5 levels to let it grow.
I completely agree. When LI started years ago, we (or at least I) was under the impression that you would pick a basic type of weapon and it would stay with you for the rest of the game. You would level with it and it would level with you, this constant swapping of weapons, relics, etc. is mind numbing. I just leveled up a champ for the first time since I started 5 years ago, and I love his first weapon, I am know almost 60 wondering how many different weapons this toon is going to have by the time I get to 85. This is crazy.
LI weapons are what made me give up most of my toons due to so much grind and non stop redounding way to peek my characters.Yet there again they added one more legendary item at our disposal...bridles
Man could this thing get any worse?...And on top of that all the new weapon skins are damn ugly
Couldnt we have an option of *reshape* in the LI npcs to change to any kind of skin from the previous versions?
For example a particular first age halberd from moria i remember was one of the most beautiful things i ever saw.I know this requires a lot of coding work but damn...ppl would pay for that even in the store as options to *unlock* old skins.
Come on guys do something about the skin weapons of the LIs
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Lol, some mod went on a moving spree to hide the "problematic" threads such as this one... Anyway,
Originally Posted by Tangaar
LI weapons are what made me give up most of my toons due to so much grind and non stop redounding way to peek my characters.Yet there again they added one more legendary item at our disposal...bridles
This. LIs are one of the biggest reasons why I can't bear to level up numerous toons (well that and linear questing come lvl 65.) Relics are an absolute pain, especially when I have to master crafting to get crafting ones.. it's just all far too much unfun work that I won't do it anymore.
I got a 1st age symbol on my very 1st raid on the 2nd day of the new raids. I've still not bothered to finish leveling it up, remove relics from my old one and spend stupid amounts of marks/medallions on scrolls.
When my Champ hit 85, I didn't bother working on LIs except for Bridle which I got from Epic - L75 2nd Agers were good enough and farming Bugud/Skirmish Raids/Durghest for a Tarnished Celebrimbor wasn't my cup of tea. After U10 added them to skirmish camp, I made myself a Sword and a Rune, got both leveled to 70 with right legacies, titles and best relics within a day. Felt kinda good. But now I see Elder Kings are dropping like candy in the Erebor raid... and I don't even want them. My character LIs are done. Repeating grind for a marginal improvement doesn't seem attractive.
Then my guard hit 85. Tarnished Celebrimors are in skirmish camp, so no need to farm here. But instead of 2-3 Items, I need to work on Five: DPS weapon, DPS belt, Tank Belt, Tank Weapon, Bridle. And I can't bring myself to do it. It could probably be done in 2-3 days, but I don't want to. Too much legacy swapping, too much relics and shards required, too much repetition and general. Will probably get an OP weapon for solo DPS and Bridle, which comes free with Epic anyway. OP belt is good enough as it is at 75 and tanking isn't something I do much either.
It just makes me want my character LESS, not more is what I want to say. Somehow we need to end this madness.
I would love to see the option to raise the level cap on our LIs every time our level cap is raised, rather than having to decon and start all over again every time there's an expansion.
I completely agree about everything said. The grind is only getting worse as the tier of levels with expansions keeps increasing. Before alting was fun, now it's not, at all. I have a 75 cappy I would like to bring up to 85 but I pretty much refuse to at this point. The time it takes to get your new 85 armour sets ( I run moors sets), do stupid amount of hybolt grinds, rep grinds, as well as run BfE 3000 times per character make it simply not worth my time.
I can seriously say I've run BfE over 100 times on my LM. I dedicated an entire day to this. After I refined my T5-T6 relics I had about 10K shards which netted me a single relic for my legendary item. Unreal.... If a guy with 2 kids can barely find time to play 1-2 hours per night (if that), how are we suppose to even reach these insane grind mountain tops? I had a couple days away fro m the family but I'm absolutely regretting putting that free time into this game. Grind grind grind grind. Here is your teny tiny carrot. I'm done with it.
I much much rather preferred the days of pre legendary items. Players were equalized then. If our base skill levels suck then change them, we shouldn't need legendary items to stay viable. Or at least make blue item drops worth using. Right now you *must*, yes *must* use legendary items. You're simply too gimped to not use them and won't even get groups without.
If I had the option of not using them, that'd make me happy, but we simply do not.
Grind IXP
grind shards
grind melding
grind refining
grind crafting (plus rep) to put "fancy crafted gems" into legendary items
grind crafting to actually be able to craft these second and first age items...
grind about 4 more legendary items to get the actual legacies I want...
grind upgrade scrolls (empowerment), so I have to run skirms or instances over and over and over in skirm camp exchange or store buy
grind legendary level scroll upgrade (delving), same as above
grind new damage type scroll, plus stat (token exchange) so I have to REGRIND RoR quests because I finished all the quests long after I reached 85
buy relic removal scrolls
grind instances to get relics to decompile(refine) and meld
grind instances to get Symbols of elder king or celebywhatever
Now mounts are grinds, thank goodness I only used mine to get through RoR quickly and heavy upgrades weren't needed.
Seriously guys? I want to hear an honest answer of how this is fun for players. This is just insanely painful and not fun in any way.
I completely agree about everything said. The grind is only getting worse as the tier of levels with expansions keeps increasing. Before alting was fun, now it's not, at all. I have a 75 cappy I would like to bring up to 85 but I pretty much refuse to at this point. The time it takes to get your new 85 armour sets ( I run moors sets), do stupid amount of hybolt grinds, rep grinds, as well as run BfE 3000 times per character make it simply not worth my time.
I can seriously say I've run BfE over 100 times on my LM. I dedicated an entire day to this. After I refined my T5-T6 relics I had about 10K shards which netted me a single relic for my legendary item. Unreal.... If a guy with 2 kids can barely find time to play 1-2 hours per night (if that), how are we suppose to even reach these insane grind mountain tops? I had a couple days away fro m the family but I'm absolutely regretting putting that free time into this game. Grind grind grind grind. Here is your teny tiny carrot. I'm done with it.
I much much rather preferred the days of pre legendary items. Players were equalized then. If our base skill levels suck then change them, we shouldn't need legendary items to stay viable. Or at least make blue item drops worth using. Right now you *must*, yes *must* use legendary items. You're simply too gimped to not use them and won't even get groups without.
If I had the option of not using them, that'd make me happy, but we simply do not.
Grind IXP
grind shards
grind melding
grind refining
grind crafting (plus rep) to put "fancy crafted gems" into legendary items
grind crafting to actually be able to craft these second and first age items...
grind about 4 more legendary items to get the actual legacies I want...
grind upgrade scrolls (empowerment), so I have to run skirms or instances over and over and over in skirm camp exchange or store buy
grind legendary level scroll upgrade (delving), same as above
grind new damage type scroll, plus stat (token exchange) so I have to REGRIND RoR quests because I finished all the quests long after I reached 85
buy relic removal scrolls
grind instances to get relics to decompile(refine) and meld
grind instances to get Symbols of elder king or celebywhatever
Now mounts are grinds, thank goodness I only used mine to get through RoR quickly and heavy upgrades weren't needed.
Seriously guys? I want to hear an honest answer of how this is fun for players. This is just insanely painful and not fun in any way.
90% of what you are talking about can be grinded before hand. Item xp you should have about 10billionxp saved up already. shards should be in the 6 figures. crafting has to be done each expansion and is very easy with new content and goes with leveling up which will give you the stuff needed for crafted relics. Upgrade scrolls can be bought with the thousands of shards you already have. Relic removal doesnt matter since you should already have hundreds of high tier relics. Only true grind is getting your Symbol.
I don't care about the grind. I care that it's the exact same grind for the 9th time now. There is no excitement for me, making LI items raid loot. Boring.
Work like no one is watching, dance like you don't need the money...
90% of what you are talking about can be grinded before hand. Item xp you should have about 10billionxp saved up already. shards should be in the 6 figures. crafting has to be done each expansion and is very easy with new content and goes with leveling up which will give you the stuff needed for crafted relics. Upgrade scrolls can be bought with the thousands of shards you already have. Relic removal doesnt matter since you should already have hundreds of high tier relics. Only true grind is getting your Symbol.
What a load of bull. And this came from a person who said earlier this month that he hasn't even hit the level cap yet ( http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...t=#post6695301 ), and somehow he made these wild claims.
So, we should have about "10billionxp" in item xp? Show us a screen print of your collection please.
"Shards should be in the 6 figures"? Really, again, show us your screen print please.
"Upgrade scrolls can be bought with the thousands of shards we already have"? Do you even know how much they cost?
"you should already have hundreds of high tier relics"? Again, screen print please.
This is a person who is obviously talking about a subject that he has very little or no experience with. You made a number of claims. Now please back them up with data.
The only thing worse than a company making bad decisions, is the apologists who cheer it on.
What a load of bull. And this came from a person who said earlier this month that he hasn't even hit the level cap yet ( http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...t=#post6695301 ), and somehow he made these wild claims.
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This is a person who is obviously talking about a subject that he has very little or no experience with. You made a number of claims. Now please back them up with data.
Okay so just lost a long post I prepared because I hit paste instead of copy before posting...sigh.
I can't speak for the person you were addressing, but I have my RK and my hunter at level cap. I like to run instances and raids but do not farm them or grind excessively for things in game. You'll see from my screenshots that I have quite a collection of ixp runes (the tooltips show you the largest 3 and smallest ixp rune values), relics and shards. I have gotten the shards from combining relics up to tier 4, then deconning at tier 4. You can see from the number of seals I have how much instance running I have done since update 10 came out.
In fact I was travelling when the update hit, so I entirely missed Flight and most of the T1 farming. I don't have a first age or a gold item on any toon. On the whole, personally I do not find the LI system to be too terrible. It would be great if there was a way to customize your LI and keep it while you level, but on the whole, it is not bad and gives me things to work on that are largely under my own control.
And btw, just to be clear since there has been so much raider-bashing on the forums of late, I do not live in my mom's basement and game full time. I have a full time, quite responsible, job, have a family, and travel quite a lot for work which limits play time. Not saying you have that opinion or do that, just making sure it's clear
I do not live in my mom's basement and game full time. I have a full time, quite responsible, job, have a family, and travel quite a lot for work which limits play time. Not saying you have that opinion or do that, just making sure it's clear
Not a problem, its not that kind of conversation so no worries.
I see your screenprints, but despite how much work you have done I certainly do not see "10billionxp" in ixp nor do I see 6 digits worth of shards or any of the other wild claims that the other poster talked about. I'm calling him out since he admitted that in the beginning of this month he wasn't even level cap yet. The things you have accrued definitely took many months and lots of grinding and hard work to get together. Ironically even then you have barely enough shards to make 2 of the top tiers relics, not even 3. I'm still waiting for that guy to produce proof of how he can so easily get "hundreds of high tier relics" and billionjillions of ixp runes.
The only thing worse than a company making bad decisions, is the apologists who cheer it on.
I've said this a thousand times, but no one ever seems to listen.
We NEED to update our LI system. It is old, overused, and nothing new has been implemented since they were introduced!
An idea often suggested is the ability to design your own LI. This personally would make me very happy, and I hope to one day see something like this implemented.
I hate myself for this but here I go standing up for turbine, the LI system was updated, iirc during the year before WB bought it and tossed the works into a overfilled chamber pot.
I do agree with you aswell that it could use a revamp and really like the idea of designing your own LI.
Would be nice to see some decent weapon/armour cosmetic appeal or a way to make most of it look decent considering the bulk of weapons and armour nowadays are just awful.
Might be nice to have Legendary Weapons that work in a similar way to Warsteeds.
A single weapon, which you can customize the look of, that levels up with you.
Finding a way to work in the different legacies is difficult.
I think maybe something -like- a skill-tree system would be good. A branch system.
And maybe you need certain barter-type items/tokens to unlock which branch you want to on the weapon?
Something like the new barter items we get from the new raids now, y'know? You need that xx-item to unlock this branch.
And you can only do it if you have the previous tier/version of that item from the last level-cap. Kinda like how stat-tomes work.
It'd still be a grind, you'd have to do alot more raids/instances I think with this. Or still spend alot of gold in the auction house.
But I think i'd feel better about sticking with one weapon that you have to work to make top-tier (just like you have to work to make your character itself top-tier), than this constant from-scratch business.
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