First of all, I love, love, love the new expansion. I have had minimal problems with it, compared to what I have seen other people have. My only complaint is that the dye packs are WAY over priced. When I was playing in beta, and testing them out, I was really planning to buy them when the game went live. I figured that they would be 100 TP or less. Imagine my surprise when I saw that they were 595 TP! Wow. Can a dev at least shed some light on why they are so outrageously priced, or possibly please lower the prices? I would much appreciate it. Thank you! Now back to questing in Rohan.
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Yeah. They are way too expensive. Knock them down about 200 points, and then it might be more reasonable. At 595, I really can't justify buying any dyes. Maybe if they were account wide, or had more than one dye pack. The steed coat colors are even worse, since you only get dyes within a shade, so brown and black are separate packs.
Not to mention it's absolutely unfair that we don't get any coat/tail colors to start with even if we paid real money for the expansion. I mean, I'd expect to have to buy some colors (and probably would) , but all of them? We get some starter colors for tack, so why not for coat/tails?
Also /signed for lowering the dye color pack prices. I would buy some, but not at the price they are now.
Totally agree. However, I'm not going to hold my breath. They'll probably wait and track sales for awhile and if people are buying them, they aren't going to lower the price.
If they don't want to lower the price, then the ability to purchase each colour separately is what they need to introduce. 600tp for 4? Then 150 for 1.
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The pricing for the war-steed dyes is based on the fact that they are not consumable items. You are purchasing the ability to permanently unlock the color options for your steeds on a particular character. So you will be able to switch your colors as often as you like on that character.
The pricing for the war-steed dyes is based on the fact that they are not consumable items. You are purchasing the ability to permanently unlock the color options for your steeds on a particular character. So you will be able to switch your colors as often as you like on that character.
That's not exactly true. Same colors cannot be used on both equipment and steed. Black must be purchased twice for the same steed! With all due respect, at these outrageous prices they should be account wide.
The pricing on the color packs, consumable or not, is plain highway robbery.
I had set some money aside to convert into TP knowing there would be stuff for warsteeds on the store I wanted.
I am not going to out of principle. I will wait and only buy color packs from the monthly TP I get from my lifetime account. This really puts a halt on some of the plans I had for WARSTEEDS.com, but I just can't justify spending that kind of money on COLORS which in all honesty should probably be included in VIP accounts to begin with.
Oh wait... one month of VIP TP isn't even enough to cover a single color pack...
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The pricing for the war-steed dyes is based on the fact that they are not consumable items. You are purchasing the ability to permanently unlock the color options for your steeds on a particular character. So you will be able to switch your colors as often as you like on that character.
If it was account wide even, it may be justifiable.
However, I'm sorry dearest blue name...it really is too high.
I do agree that changing to single color purchases would be better..I ended up with olive. Olive? Uhh..not for me.
If they don't want to lower the price, then the ability to purchase each colour separately is what they need to introduce. 600tp for 4? Then 150 for 1.
I would feel marginally better about the situation if this happened. Some of those colors look like puke and I do not want them.
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That's not exactly true. Same colors cannot be used on both equipment and steed. Black must be purchased twice for the same steed! With all due respect, at these outrageous prices they should be account wide.
This. Prices are way too high for something at the character level when we've always had the ability to DYE things in the past.
Also, the fact that the COLOR is an aspect of the appearance given in the store description in which we're told we'll have an equivalent War-steed MOUNT appearance traits for the mount we purchased.
Put on all the steed of night traits we get with the purchase. It's still NOT a 'DARK CHARCOAL '
From the Steed of Night page
Unlock this Premium Mount Bundle to get the travel mount and the matching War-steed Appearance!
This magnificent steed has a DARK CHARCOAL coat with glistening chocolate undertones, amber eyes and is bedecked with a glimmering saddle pad, a fiery neck guard and reinforced leather saddle, bridle and leg boots. This steed has 250 health and allows you to travel 68% faster than running on foot, making it faster and stronger than many other mounts! Once purchased this skill can be found in the Mounts area of the Skill panel (hit 'k' then click the Mounts tab at the top right-hand corner)
Dark Charcoal (a key feature of this mount), such that its the FIRST one you list, is not given to us with the purchase. The closest we can come is 'Steed Color Unlock Pack 2'
Permanently gain the ability to dye your War-steed's coat, mane and tail in four new colours on this Character. This pack includes: Dark Grey, Charcoal, Sooty and Black.
I would prefer individual colors over the packs too. When I look at the packs there are colors that I would never use. Selling them individually at least allows you to pick the colors that you like.
Yes, introducing individual colors to the store would be perfect, like I mentioned in the suggestions post -- I only want one color per hide and tail/mane, because I want him to remain the same horse, no matter what cosmetics he's wearing. I would never use the other three colors that come in the pack... Which would, technically be a partial waste of TPs then.
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Thank you Quartermaster for piping in. I believe the replies you received shortly after sum it up perfectly. If you are setting that price in cement... Please split them up as single paints, and not stacks of 4 colours that not everyone wants. (Olive? I'd completely forgotten that color, the poor horse looked ill on beta.)
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The color packs I would just rather buy each color separately cause I will probably only use just 1 or 2.
/Agreed, I've got only about 3 colors I want, and none of them are packaged together. 1500+ tp for 3 colors I want, which includes 9 others I don't want. I'll give 'em time to sort it out. But for now, I'm holding off as well Sig. I am now extra glad that my hunteress is not 75 yet, so she won't be disappointed at me not buying her horse paints.
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I dislike the idea that we have to buy dyes in the first place, as they are a core part of the cosmetic experience, but the idea that we have to buy them at such a high cost on each of our characters is ridiculous.
Things that would make lots of people happy without taking too much money away from Turbine:
Add color packs (both skin and cosmetic dye packs!) as rare drops in the Warband loot boxes (just like the Spotted War-steed Hide is right now)
Keep it at 595TP, but let us pick which four of the colors we are getting (again, goes for both the skin and cosmetic dye packs)
Allow Eastemnet level scholars to make War-steed cosmetics dyes. Heck, make them on a cool down or gated by guild, whatever.
I think my main and biggest point is the middle one. 595 TP is a lot, but if I get to choose which of the four dyes/skin colors I'm getting, I would not mind as much. Just because I want to dye my cosmetics olive does no mean I want those other randomly chosen colors that go with it. I'd much rather pick three other colors that I would actually use.
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I agree that these colors need to be account-wide. I bought a pack hoping that would be true but not expecting it, so you already got me once, but I'm not buying another at those prices, much less one on every toon. That's also the consensus of everyone in my kin I've talked to about the issue. Either they expected it to be account-wide for that price, or they just aren't going to bother.
The pricing for the war-steed dyes is based on the fact that they are not consumable items. You are purchasing the ability to permanently unlock the color options for your steeds on a particular character. So you will be able to switch your colors as often as you like on that character.
I can almost buy this logic, except that we've had the wardrobe system for ~2 years now which gives dyes the ability to be both permanent and account-wide (not to mention available in-game without tp). This is definitely a downgrade.
I have to be honest, we heard over and over how RoI was the most successful expansion to date and how the money was being reinvested into RoR and it would pay dividends when all was said and done. Yet between the high cost of the new expansion and the nickel and diming.... no, quarter and half-dollaring you guys are doing over War-Steed Cosmetics, I feel like Turbine's absolutely strapped for cash.
I've been a VIP for years and years, I bought the Legendary Edition, and somehow everywhere I turn there's a little gold Turbine coin asking for more. It's putting a massive damper on what is otherwise a fantastic experience.
I totally agree with this post, love the expansion, love cosmetic stuff, and think that the price for this pack is sadly beyond ridiculous. I know the developers of this game are pretty awesome and most likely don't want to charge us ridiculous prices, so hopefully they listen to us and fix it.
i really dont think that just making the colours account wide is the solution. I'd much rather buy them separately on each toon, than buy 3 colours i dont want just to get one i do.
make them available individually, or let us pick which 4 we want from any set.
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Yup, prices are way too high. I will stick with the basic color steed unless there is a drastic price drop. And making you buy them for each character on your acct must be a joke. That said....
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These shouldn't even cost TP. It's like charging you to change your hair colour... Looks like everyone will have the same generic horse.
This is the real shame. You're going to have all of your players riding around on identical looking horses because very few of us are going to buy those ridiculously priced dye packs.
There's no way I'm paying 500TP for four dye colors, of which I really only want to get one. Lower the price, make the packs account wide, or allow to us pick individual colors instead of a "pack". Choose any of those options and I will be much more likely to spend Turbine Points on them.
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