Thread: Level 40 decon on 1st Legendary

Do I understand correctly that if I decon my initial legendary weapon when it hits max level of 40 that I get my slotted relics back, excluding crafted relics? Also, does it make any sense to uprade the weapon 10 levels and decon it at level 50 instead. My two characters who are in this position are levels 51 and 53, so switching to a higher level legendary is not really necessary at this point.

No, you don't get your slotted relics back when you decon, unless you use a scroll from the store. You do get to choose a legacy to keep, though, when you decon at item level 31 or above; and you'll get an ixp rune, and legendary shards which can be used for crafting new LIs.

In the Legendary Guide above, I saw:

"When you deconstruct an item at max level, all of your slotted relics will be refunded to you. This only occurs at max item level."

Does this no longer apply or is it only on level 60 items and above?

http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Legendary_Items


This is the most reriable source of information about LIs.
A lot of things you find on the internet (ESPECIALLY official info from Turbine) is probably outdated.

Originally Posted by Elrohir_of_Kellemar

In the Legendary Guide above, I saw:

"When you deconstruct an item at max level, all of your slotted relics will be refunded to you. This only occurs at max item level."

Does this no longer apply or is it only on level 60 items and above?

That doesn't apply at all to anything.

That info is a bit out of date.

They made some changes a while back to make LIs a bit less random.
In exchange for that, they took away the ability to get relics back when you deconned at the max level.

Usually what I do is:
Keep all LI slots full
Keep your LI level close to character level, not worrying about legacies, but focus on DPS or tactical mastery.
Quest as normal to allow the items to gain experience.
Slot junky tier 2 or 3 relics for the stats you want. They are very easy to come by.
Decon at the "11"s. In other words 11,21,31 etc with each tier giving better rewards.
by the time you are 65 or higher, you will have a large stash of relics and Item xp pills.
At 65 start farming LIs with the legacies that you will want for 75. (keep in mind that the legacy scrolls that you get from lower level LIs have a level limit)
At 75 (soon to be 85!) make your perfect weapon and slot some nice relics.

So assuming an item has a cap of 60, you are implying it would be best to deconn at 51?

Originally Posted by Andlag

So assuming an item has a cap of 60, you are implying it would be best to deconn at 51?

I'd say that depends a bit.

For a leveling char in Moria (lots of dwarf tools and Khudzul tablets), it might be better to instead decon at 11 for building a bit of a pool of low-level relics to use for the actual leveling as well as for later (though keep in mind that the relic system is basically in desperate need of a fix).

Later on, I find it to be better to indeed decon at 51.
The reason is that you need 487,828 IXP for level 31 but don't get very much back in terms of XP pills and relics (I don't think I had seen xp runes of more than 127,300 and nothing bigger than t4 relics).
Leveling to 51 only takes another 400k (less than taking another item to 31) but you actually have a decent chance to get a xp rune of 569,500, 837,500 or even a 938,000 (the latter is a free pass to get another item straight to 53 and decon again) as well as up to t6 relics.
Also, quests give so much IXP that short of buying them I actually ran into problems supplying myself with enough items to continue to decon at 31 (I use all 8 LI slots) and can level 4, 5 or even 6 items at once (depending on the class).

Edit
To answer the actual OP's questions, I would decon the initial item as soon as possible because it doesn't get points when not equipped and the longer you wait, the more you lack the dps of the higher weapons. What I did after the first character was to save enough IXP runes to get the item from 20 to 21 (130,673 -> 151,725) and decon it then. By that time, the character would be able to equip at least a 51 item (which does have the same base dps as the starter one but has the benefit of gaining IXP without being equipped, so a change in between is no problem).

HTH,
SNy

Originally Posted by Andlag

So assuming an item has a cap of 60, you are implying it would be best to deconn at 51?

Breakpoints for the range of IXP rune you get are at 11 21 31 41 51 61 (51+ I think it's either 580 850 or 950k IXP) - but you get more relics and higher tiers when deconstructing at a higher level. I would always go with maxxing before deconstructing.

Note that I haven't counted the relics and tiers, there's rather a lot of them and with possible crits you should get huge anomalies.

Originally Posted by Elrohir_of_Kellemar

In the Legendary Guide above, I saw:

"When you deconstruct an item at max level, all of your slotted relics will be refunded to you. This only occurs at max item level."

Does this no longer apply or is it only on level 60 items and above?

You did the correct thing by asking. You will find that a lot of the web information on Lotro talks about how the game worked in the past. The information is no longer applicable because the game has evolved.

It can be very difficult to get accurate information on a feature that was introduced in Fall of 2008 like legendary items which has been modified and changed multiple times since introduction. People are great at writing guides that describe version 1.0 (the original launch implementation) of a feature. These guides tend to not be revised when the game is updated.