Thread: ''TIRITH'S GUARD'' project

only read this recently (been on vacation during activity on this thread), but I like the idea.
I'd like to participate in the initiative.
especially with the upcoming update freeps will need a dedicated group to continue the fight against those Angmar dogs!

Kaldegrim

When I made this thread there were different circumstances m8..
''Dark side'' had a strong core of ''devoted'' experienced creeps in same tribe, while freep side had less veteran players from different kins..
I think now the pvp environment is more relaxed with many players who are playing on both sides..

Personally I don't have the time to organize it because I m not able to log in very often,
but I think it's better now to create a united (freeps/creeps) channel so as we can form balanced groups and have better battles..

If one side wipes with no kills a player who plays on both sides can switch to the other or some of the winners group can stay out and watch until it is balanced..

All these would be easier if there is a channel where players are able to come to an understanding about numbers, battlefields, ''vanishing'' players etc..

Originally Posted by jivius

If one side wipes with no kills a player who plays on both sides can switch to the other or some of the winners group can stay out and watch until it is balanced..

words are nice but actions speaks louder... i didnt see that hapening yesterady when 15 +/- freeps farmed our raid inside TA cg room

Originally Posted by Jusper89

words are nice but actions speaks louder... i didnt see that hapening yesterady when 15 +/- freeps farmed our raid inside TA cg room

That happened because some hours before , creeps did the same.

Until there's no united channel there ll be unbalanced fights all the time at the expence of both sides and specially for those players who are staying even on bad conditions..

Originally Posted by RohirrimCaptain

That happened because some hours before , creeps did the same.

in your situation we couldnt do anything... we went for ta, if you would want some fights we needed to place out half raid, but i know booth sides has different view of things... was just reffering to haras post cos yd haras was in freeps raid and i know he has a warg creepside... we all want to sound like nice guys

M8 when I reached at TA I wasn't leading, but when we came up at tyrant's room after a while freeps pass me the leadership so it was difficult for me to change side.. (except from that I really don't think that creeps trust me to be in their groups)

My post was an answer to Kaldegrim about Tirith's Guard concerning what we all have to do for better fights..

I think now not only freeps but both sides need better organization in playing.. we can achieve balance only if we all act in concert otherwise new ''not devoted'' players will always join to stronger side..

Give up,both sides take any chance to farm and zerg instead of balancing out the sides and try to make good fights...

Haras , what you could do , what i alrdy posted in past is to : I dont expect you to read this , but if you do , i would be happy if u would make a reply =)

*Make a TS3 server or use a channel from some 1 else
*Yet i havent seen you recruting any player to your PVP Kin
*What i understand on recrutiment for a Pvp/Kin/Group call it however you want to , is to make recrute messages on WW global , take an example of *Krom* or *Landrovas* who always post their kin messages in Global.
*Maybe you could start with a small group , no 1 on server expects you to make 24/7 12 man groups .
*Make a 3 person group then 6 and build up numbers .
* When you have choosen a time /date log to creep , say it to me or to some 1 else and creeps will know , say it to freeps
* Here is an example :
*Maybe a Facebook site , every 1 has it , and people who say they dont , are liars

Bla bla bla bla bla Tiriths Guard bla bla bla today pvp battle 6 man group at 18:00 Uk time , bla bla bla bla Ims me bla bla

Still , i will come back to to LOTRO PVmP and i will fight freeps , and Haras m8 as you know me for a long time , im always free to help my m8´s

Cheers

This is not a QQ post , Its a advice post >>>>>>^-^<<<<<

+++++ As i read your all previous post Haras , to the end , I got following names +++++

Who would participate ?

Kaldegrim >>> You have a minstrell alrdy
Psy>>>>> Another
You haras
and Immilhir
Patruxe

Make now for a begining a 4 man group and creeps would be happy if it would work out °___________________°

Mate and even more people would come to freep side and help you out . It will only work out when creeps/freeps join together and fight , but Haras , its your idea so you need to decide .

feeps from ww are not organazed persons.
for exable.why always with ploughola raid leader,any freep is in the freep raid,they hear only plougholas order and nothing more.
if they not,they are out.
answer:because plougholas like me too,we have 5,5 years game play,the most from eldar.we know tactics,we have see many epic pattle,and we know how to make a freep raid.
why the most freeps work on burgs?
because ppl who lead moors,they think are pro and dont invite other freeps who shout every time for invite at occ.
they take keeps with ninja tact,like 3-5 person grup,and dont give a choice to the other freep too,to make the same like 1 grup,or anything else.
i dont say names,i hate trolling.but if someone want to tell,i can at pms.

Originally Posted by Kromachine

feeps from ww are not organazed persons.
for exable.why always with ploughola raid leader,any freep is in the freep raid,they hear only plougholas order and nothing more.
if they not,they are out.
answer:because plougholas like me too,we have 5,5 years game play,the most from eldar.we know tactics,we have see many epic pattle,and we know how to make a freep raid.
why the most freeps work on burgs?
because ppl who lead moors,they think are pro and dont invite other freeps who shout every time for invite at occ.
they take keeps with ninja tact,like 3-5 person grup,and dont give a choice to the other freep too,to make the same like 1 grup,or anything else.
i dont say names,i hate trolling.but if someone want to tell,i can at pms.

There are many guys that play lotro for a long time, but not all can be raidleaders. Leading raid is not simple as many think it is, especially if people in group dont listen, or dont know how when and where to execute thier skills. I can say from my expirience that freeps side doesnt listen, and doesnt follow RAT as good as creeps are. There is a reason why freeps dont win in rare fights with almost equal numbers. I led some raids on creep side WITHOUT voice, where more then 50% of raid was r4 and lower, and it was more organised then some freep raids i saw and was in. (i dont want to troll or be smartass, its how it is, log to other side and join if you dont believe)

About inviting guys that come to moors and shout inv. Freeps, from what i noticed, come to moors and want group immediatly. This is wrong for freeps, creeps and player itself. Best way to develop your skills (on most classes) if you try to play alone and take care of yourself. This is best road for a guy who wants to be decent player. If of course creeps are grouped, or overwhelming you, then get a group.

Another problem on freep side is that leaders invite everyone that comes to moors without caring about numbers of creeps vs numbers of freeps. That way youre helping noone. Neithere to players that just came, neithere to players that are already in group. You are getting big numbers and its just a matter of minutes when creeps will leave, and then you have nothing to do.

i dont say all the old players can be good raid leaders.i say we see many epic fights.or we have many experience at some things.nothing special.
if you dont feel and play at the moors like 07-08 you cant undestand the veterans m8.with 1 hour time penalty none can relog any time.so any fight was nice.and the numbers most times balance.

Originally Posted by Kromachine

i dont say all the old players can be good raid leaders.i say we see many epic fights.or we have many experience at some things.nothing special.
if you dont feel and play at the moors like 07-08 you cant undestand the veterans m8.with 1 hour time penalty none can relog any time.so any fight was nice.and the numbers most times balance.

Moors changed alot. Its a fact. Some classes changed, some systems changed, some are new. And even bigger change is ahead. So today moors, ro ror moors will have little to do with moors 07-08. F2P sent moors into different direction. All new stuff we are getting are more or less influence of F2P

To Dream: Right now I don't have much free time for lotro so I can't organize Tirith's Guard + I think there's no need about this by the time many players are on both sides..

Krom is saying that freep leaders don't invite all freeps while Lutgash says that all freeps are being invited on groups..

Personally I used to accept all lvl 75 players even crafted gear although they usually cause more troubles than help..

If we have ''tournament conditions'' fights where both sides have decide about numbers, classes, places etc. the spare players should stay out of fight and watch until next battle..
This is difficult but we can achieve that if the ''watchers'' are on group otherwise they will interfere in fight broking the balance..

In free ''war condition'' fights balance can be achieved if the weaker side hugs a keep by defending it..
If a player who plays seriously on both sides log to the weaker side it would be nice too but usually it happens the opposite..

Haras,

I have aided with you a few times, it is good fun and normally good fights. I am in and will try to log as often as I can. Sometimes real life gets in the way of my Lotro time though.

By the time RoR comes can we form TIRITH's GUARD with specific channel on WW?

Let's see if we have any response...

Invitations to:

RKs: Imilhir, Grimek, Alphorz

Captains: Verminaard, Patruxe

LMs: Galantrien, Elemar

Minies: Psy (come back I ll pay the transfer! ) Plougholas, Blaen, Rossalia, Nularin

Hunters: Ileri, Kelendil, Drabbit

Burgs: Getta, Maaba, Antiwarg, Tahko, Gadlin

Guardians: Hobbitpower, Ova

Champs: Haras, Henks

Wardens: Greekwarrior, Saam

Any one who wants can lead on raids (we can try multiple leadings)

This ll be the only hope for WW pvp after update otherwise all are going to make quests with their creeps..

Please dont see this as troll thingy but :

DoH Members said they transfer.
Alphorz said goodbye withy yesterday.
Elemar and Pat are needed on creepside

Good Luck.

Plou, getta characters ll stay on WW

Alphorz may stay if he ll see a new organized effort

Patruxe ll play again on freep as soon he as he ll get vip

I trust Elemar to be ''the key'' person for balance so he can switch side from Elemar to Lutgash

EDIT: I think u won't need them against norbogs..

Haras, i think this will not work.

Alphorz will have more fun on snowie like all of us. Forget withy and move on guys.

How can snowy be fun is cro something warg is there....
Plough is staying? my poor reaver will continue to get the RAT treatment then )))