Helm's Deep is the first, I presume, Big Epic Battle as you say that should pass into our line. There were 10,000 foes in the Battle of the Hornburg, as well as lots of men. However, this battle (Following the lore) would have to be in an instance or session play which might not include your actual character.
That is the closest Big Epic Battle to where we are right now, but there were others as well: Battle of the Five Armies and Pelennor Fields to give as examples.
They did give us a small taste of this technology with a certain instance in Dunland that came with Isengard. I do not remember the name, but it occurred in Wulf's Cleft - you could also look down into the camp and see hundreds of npc's wandering around within in.
Technology like this has never been seen in an MMORPG before, so it will be very impressive if Turbine can pull off large scale battles like this.
(Correct spelling of some Tolkien Lore, I am no expert)
Last edited by zalladi; Jul 18 2012 at 06:20 PM.
Reason: Lore people will yell at me
I wish people would stop taking everything Turbine says as a promise. It's part of the reason Devs are so reluctant to post here anymore.
Anyways, the tech they are referring to can be seen a little in an instance in the Dunbog area of Dunland, as well as a series of instances in the Volume 3, Book 5 Epic. It's not huge, but you've got to walk before you can run.
We haven't heard whether we'll be getting more larger battles in RoR yet, the general gist is that this tech is going to come into play most with the whole Helm's Deep segment, probably next year. That is going to be the ultimate test for Turbine's tech (as well as our pcs), anything that comes up before that is merely leading up to that particular event.
Originally Posted by zalladi
There were 10,000 foes in the Battle of the Hornburg, as well as 300 men and some more elves. However, this battle (Following the lore) would have to be in an instance or session play which might not include your actual character.
Might want to edit that. The 300 men and some elves thing was done for the movies, the books has several thousand Rohirrim soldiers, and the only elf there was Legolas. Not bashing you here, but the Lore-monkeys hate it when people take the movies to be canon.
They are trying to create the feeling of a huge battle with the 'First Battle of the Isen'. It was part of the epic story as the 4 instances where Theodred died in the last one.
Personally I found that series of quest lacking the feeling of greatness. It was me fighting an orc and all other orcs and Rohirrim cheering at us. Breaking it down by returning each time to the real world outside the instance was also a bad move. Maybe working on a mechanic where you can move from instance to instance could remove the imersion breaker. Presenting the story in cutscenes also broke the feeling.
But I forgive them, they are just testing things out. The battle in the large Dunlending camp during one of the Dunland quests felt a bit more epic.
I hope they don't mess up the battle of the Horn Burg like the did with the first battle of the Isen. But the second battle of the Isen (2nd March) still has to come before the we can get Helm's Deep (3-4 March). They still have another try to get there huge battles right.
Currently we are at least one day behind the first battle which was 25 February. As leaked on the map of Rohan, we will see the orc band carrying Merry and Pippin getting killed in the upcoming expansion. That is on 29 February (February has 30 days).
there is an instance in wulfs cleft where you pick 4 npcs and they help you fight. The final fight adds a few more npcs fighting with you. It also has lots of mobs in it. As we move towards helms deep, i think the fights will bigger
You cab see the tech being developed. besides the quest in the Dunbog, where you select 4 to help you, there are many other mobs and NPC runniong about and fighting that you can not interavt with. But it give a felling of a large battle.
Same with the fight at the gates of Isengard. That has a lot more npcs and mobs fighting each other while we try to stay alive.
I am sure those are testing grounds for the rpic battles to come