Thread: Ettenmoors changes in RoR

QQ armed and ready.

Expectations:
14 pages of commendation/store tie ins, 1 page of PvE.

As a creep, I'm not happy unless I'm unhappy.

On a serious note, I'm cautiously optimistic and am looking forward to reading it.

Originally Posted by Aedfrith

Wow. They'll be fixing hunters next.

right after they make reavers useful again.

Originally Posted by apb8808

On a serious note, I'm cautiously optimistic and am looking forward to reading it.

I would say "hopeful" versus "optimistic". The saying "fool me once...." comes to mind. So many aspects of pvp have been poorly implemented, changed or even omitted, that I am fully in the show-me camp with respect to the moors, and especially with respect to balance.

Originally Posted by 0987654321

right after they make reavers useful again.

Prolly hitting diminished returns on current FOTM rerolls in the store, so getting near time to rotate in some new classes for increased store consumption....or they'll need to add some additional must-have high rank skills/traits.

Originally Posted by Celestrata

I can help out a poor slob at work on a computer with no sound.

There is an Ettenmoors developer diary coming this week.

And, if you want a small further tease... JWBarry's Ettenmoors diary is over 5,000 words after edits. In Microsoft Word, it takes up over 15 pages. This is a meaty diary.

Mind telling us which day it will be posted?
Best for it to be posted before Thursday, because i have to prepare myself for GW2 beta...

Ugh... I can already see the threads after threads of naive derps screaming 'THANK YOU' to Turbine when they give a tiny snippet of information. Then two days after release said naive derps are back to raging that the content disappointed.

Do not praise the day before sunset.

Originally Posted by Ozthorn

I really don't want to get my hopes up. Remember, the devs thought Commendations for traits and skills was a good idea but failed to do the basic math to see how many commendations a creep would need to get the traits and skills for a given rank.

Actually the worst part is that they haven't fixed the commendation costs yet.

Originally Posted by aklouie

Actually the worst part is that they haven't fixed the commendation costs yet.

If they lowered the costs, this wouldn't be much of a "Season" would it? It is supposed to be a grind; it's actually very similar in time to gearing out toons in SWTOR (Lotro is somewhat quicker than fully augmenting and earning a WH set). Very grindy generally, but doesn't feel so bad if you like what you're playing.

I'm looking forward to seeing what changes they have coming. I have not purchased RoR yet and will only buy it if I like what they're doing to PvMP.

I'm glad to see a response from turbine on the PvP boards...I'm sure I'll be disappointed (I'm always disappointed) but I'm looking forward to the diary.


That being said


F COMMS I hate them so much. I hate the idea of comms and I hate audacity. I can't believe I'm being penalized for playing casually. I've played quite a bit in the past and now all I want to do is PvP and play the game less then 10 hours a week. I understand falling behind on freep side as new gear and LI's come out constantly. What I hate is that now my reaver sucks because it has 1 audacity as well.

Every time I log in and start to play I just wonder why I'm doing it. I have no goals in the game and no reason to play. I play for fun but I'm lucky to get 20min of enjoyment every hour or 2....

./rant

Originally Posted by zxzxz

Mind telling us which day it will be posted?
Best for it to be posted before Thursday, because i have to prepare myself for GW2 beta...

I predict it will be posted on Friday so we have a whole weekend of derp derp derp without bluenames to remove the "Pending Doom" threads.

Originally Posted by Haldlas

a good lore-master update could help control the exploding warg

nonono, here's where you got it wrong, LMs make go boom, so therefor less means less exploding wargs

/signed by a warg tired of having burnt fur all the time

although... if there were more LMs, there might be less of other things that make me go boom faster... hmmm...

(just a joke btw for you serious types :P)

Originally Posted by Louvre

I see a slap on the face for me incoming ( for me and anyone else who has farmed over 170k commendations at this point ) .

I'm eager to read this dev diary .

Shh, they learned their lesson with radiance.

Hello, great ideas
I hope a dev can read that !

Reality Check- This is the first time in 5 months the devs have said anything about PvMP. They still dont care about you



If you like PvP you owe it to yourself to not spend anymore money on this game

As always it will be an interesting read. It will be reasonable and have nice ideas.
Then we will see if implementation really delivers as explained or Turbine just do the contrary as stated.

Originally Posted by Phenylcyclinide

Shh, they learned their lesson with radiance.

Yep, they also learned to give correct information on Instance Clusters being shipped with expansions... oh wait, they didn't. My bad.

jwbarry & Delving of Fror = .....? Not sure if anything can be done to that forsaken place, but that combination sounds somewhat... promising.

I hope this isn't going to end up like fornost, helegrod or any of the other scaled things did.

With that out of the way, JWBarry = Instance/raid designer right?
Should be interesting. Orion mentioned something about PvP skirmishes a couple of years back.

Uh, yes, way to go, now you got me interested... I am going to hate you when it all turns out to be some birds and trees.

Originally Posted by Louvre

Well no wonder we never get blue names writing on the dark side of the forums .

You don't need Turbine ruining anything , because you pretty much spoil it with your attitude .

Can we wait for the actual dev diary before going nuts please ?

After 5 years of play in Ettens, you hope they will do something good? Yep we have nice portraits, some cool skins, a Defiler class, a tree with a bird, less GM involved events, more "all you worked in your char no los pasamos por los huevos welcome pay2win (freep side) pay2getachanceanddie (creep side)", nerfed skills, useless reavers (because they are free) etc... Next Ettens update smell a more store &&&& oriented, &&&& your work in you char after years and all that we are accustomed turbine, disappointments and disillusionment....
Sorry can't be positive. It would be a pleasant surprise that I had to eat my words .... but will be no

people still take the carrots? priceless.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

... I'm looking forward to seeing what changes they have coming. I have not purchased RoR yet and will only buy it if I like what they're doing to PvMP.

Same thoughts here. I've been subbing elsewhere for the past 60 days and it would be good to have a reason to come back to LoTRO.

Originally Posted by 1nTruDeR

I hope they do something about the Delving,that place is kind of useless at the moment.

That is absolutely they last off my concerns in ettens.

Won't take any of it seriously until I see the updates are good and in the game live.

A new dev diary is up today: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...-Farmers-Faire

I guess they get posted in order of priority...

Bah I was hoping the PvMP dev diary would be the first to be posted.

Originally Posted by Squelcher

Ugh... I can already see the threads after threads of naive derps screaming 'THANK YOU' to Turbine when they give a tiny snippet of information. Then two days after release said naive derps are back to raging that the content disappointed.

Do not praise the day before sunset.

Agreed. "oh thank you for communicating" like it's actually going to help. The changes last year looked "good" and look how that turned out.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

If they lowered the costs, this wouldn't be much of a "Season" would it? It is supposed to be a grind;.

What's this 'Season' you speak of?
And it puts a whole new meaning to the word grind when you are literally unable to get sufficient coms in the first place. I could give a sufficient analogy to illustrate my view but i don't see the point in spending time pointing out something that should be obvious.

Originally Posted by Sniz

A new dev diary is up today: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...-Farmers-Faire

I guess they get posted in order of priority...

I am sure that got higher priority because the Farmers Faire starts Thursday while the changes to the PvMP and the rest of RoR won't happen for over a month and a half.

Originally Posted by wikjif

I am sure that got higher priority because the Farmers Faire starts Thursday while the changes to the PvMP and the rest of RoR won't happen for over a month and a half.

And that is a problem with Turbine... too much focus on boring, useless fairs and not enough focus on fixing bugs and exploits...

*Sets sail for fail*

Originally Posted by wikjif

I am sure that got higher priority because the Farmers Faire starts Thursday while the changes to the PvMP and the rest of RoR won't happen for over a month and a half.

Don't worry. When it's time for all these big changes to take effect, there will be another story about how all the fairs and festival horses took all the resources of all of turbine and the changes will REALLY go into effect in the next update. Really.

Then nothing will happen, and nothing will be said until another MMO is being released at which point Turbine will post a thread or make a dev diary about all the big changes come to PVMP....

Originally Posted by reverendmaggot

I, along with countless others, some of which who will never ever play lotro again because of this shoddy deving, have given them the benefit of the doubt since the year the game came out. We're through with that.

Yup, I got done waiting, I moved on with the PvP side for the most part. The only thing that would see me back would be the removal of that stupid audacity. Oh yeah and the new PvE grind in PvP... yeah really... PVE? Seriously?

Originally Posted by Phenylcyclinide

Shh, they learned their lesson with radiance.

You mean by removing stat caps and creating audacity? I'm sure I'm forgetting something else here as well

change will be mounted combat ofc since freeps need buff to fight the strong creeps, sarcasme mode off

Notice how their two biggest updates to PVMP were announced when the two biggest threats to the game's population were incoming. Unless there is a threat of a big drop in players, were are ignored. But when we threaten to leave, they love us.

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

If they lowered the costs, this wouldn't be much of a "Season" would it? It is supposed to be a grind; it's actually very similar in time to gearing out toons in SWTOR (Lotro is somewhat quicker than fully augmenting and earning a WH set). Very grindy generally, but doesn't feel so bad if you like what you're playing.

I'm looking forward to seeing what changes they have coming. I have not purchased RoR yet and will only buy it if I like what they're doing to PvMP.

I don't mean commendation costs for audacity. They could raise that for all I care. It's starting off with a new/low level creep and having to buy skills such that you can't even buy your skills by the time you need the next level's worth of commendations.

Originally Posted by wikjif

I am sure that got higher priority because the Farmers Faire starts Thursday while the changes to the PvMP and the rest of RoR won't happen for over a month and a half.

If you can't see the tongue-in-cheek humor in this thread, you probably shouldn't be posting in the PvP forum. The fact that you actually know when a faire starts means you *definitely* shouldn't be posting in the PvP forum.

Maybe we're getting a Moor's festival. It would make sense. Big changes are coming. Turbine like festivals.

The big news is the delving is going to be repurposed as a giant Moor's festival grounds. Maybe we'll even get a festival warg skin.

Why not, apply correct cosmetics and you look intimidating enough - for most freeps

Well as I've said before about audacity..it should be implemented on creeps ONLY
And this dev diary?well yeah im eager to read this too tho my hopes are....anw
After all its a change?right?
What i expect...A complete transformation in ettens in tems or the layout and less npcs.thats all
balance? nope it will stay the same


um....forgot to add...


2 more ranks 16 -17 which will have new traits and skills and which you will buy em off store and which defeats the purpose of trying to achieve them anw