Well, I broke down and got the ROR legendary version, and here's why I think it's a waste of money:
The FULL set of armor can't be dyed (just like the ROI), so who's gonna want to run around looking like everyone else? Kind of defeats the purpose of cosmetic armor.
Four statted cloaks, all level 75+ so they can't be used by the alts that need the bonus, and my level 75 would be downgrading his cloak if he used it.
The "special" horse deed is 60 grinding quest to get... a cosmetic cloak, what a joke.
The outrider token... worse than the downgrade in armor. 75+ can't use it and those below will give up the much needed stats acquired with Dunland tokens.
The horse? You'd think that Turbine could do us the courtesy of making these "special" horses as special as my Ambassador steed (+68/250 morale) so I'd consider riding it some place other than in bree. But no it's the same ordinary stats that we have when we bought our first horse a million years ago at Henstacers.
The tokens from bree to Henstacers... really? oh, thanks for saving me 15 silver pieces and 4 minutes.
In short, buy the standard one so you can level past 75 and get the mounted combat when it comes around. Hopefully enough people will do that and maybe then WB/Turbine will stop nickle and diming us for "special" items that we don't find out are &&&& until they have the money.
Last edited by Arasul123; Jul 14 2012 at 12:29 PM.
Well, I broke down and got the ROR legendary version, and here's why I think it's a waste of money:
Four statted cloaks, all level 75+ so they can't be used by the alts that need the bonus, and my level 75 would be downgrading his cloak if he used it.
Its nice for a freshly level 75 toon.
Originally Posted by Arasul123
The "special" horse deed is 60 grinding quest to get... a cosmetic cloak, what a joke.
Skip the cloak, do each kind of quest once to get the mounted combat skill (with a 1 day cooldown).
Originally Posted by Arasul123
The Crystal of remembrance... worse than the downgrade in armor. 75+ can't use it and those below will give up the much needed stats acquired with Dunland tokens.
One, I don't know what dunland token junk you're talking about.
The crystal can be used on any LI, it has no max level. Use it on your L85 2A/FA.
Originally Posted by Arasul123
The horse? You'd think that Turbine could do us the courtesy of making these "special" horses as special as my Ambassador steed (+68/250 morale) so I'd consider riding it some place other than in bree. But no it's the same ordinary stats that we have when we bought our first horse a million years ago at Henstacers.
The tokens from bree to Henstacers... really? oh, thanks for saving me 15 silver pieces and 4 minutes.
It's an appearance, use it or not. We'll be able to apply it to our war-steed most likely.
And the map? Nice for moving your character all the way across the world there once.
My mistake on the crystal... I meant to type (and have corrected it now) the outrider token. My 66 champion isn't gonna want to give up +45 fate/+45 will/+94 max morale for 25% monster kills. You kill alot more monsters (and survive alot longer) with what I have already at 66. Maybe it's beneficial if you're lower level, but how many of us are buying it before we get past that stage?
Last edited by Arasul123; Jul 14 2012 at 12:33 PM.
My mistake on the crystal... I meant to type (and have corrected it now) the outrider token. My 66 champion isn't gonna want to give up +45 fate/+45 will/+94 max morale for 25% monster kills. You kill alot more monsters (and survive alot longer) with what I have already at 66. Maybe it's beneficial if you're lower level, but how many of us are buying it before we get past that stage?
YOu make me lol.... If i didnt have rating disabled i would spend it to downgrade your flame post! all your doing is complaining and for real is losing 45 will and fate and that EPIC 94 morale on a champin that uses might really bad?? It gets you to 75 so fast, I mean i was getting 800 exp per average kill at level 66
YOu make me lol.... If i didnt have rating disabled i would spend it to downgrade your flame post!
It's hardly a flame post. I just spent $70 and felt ripped off. There's nothing I can do about it now, the money's spent. But if someone had listed these things I'd have save myself the cash.
If anyone's trying to start flames, It would be you by attacking me. Not sure why people like you feel duty bound to defend Turbine when someone is expressing valid observations. If you don't like the post, don't read it.
Well, I broke down and got the ROR legendary version, and here's why I think it's a waste of money:
Four statted cloaks, all level 75+ so they can't be used by the alts that need the bonus, and my level 75 would be downgrading his cloak if he used it. ....... The stats on the Cloaks are for level 75, pretty obvious that if you are under lvl 75 you cant use em .... Same as saying that its wrong that a level 15 can't use the Phial of Swirling Waters
The "special" horse deed is 60 grinding quest to get... a cosmetic cloak, what a joke. ....You get a Mount Skill for completing the Session Play Deeds, The Cloak for completing 60 Horsey Quests is actually quite nice
The outrider token... worse than the downgrade in armor. 75+ can't use it and those below will give up the much needed stats acquired with Dunland tokens. .... It is not meant as a replacement of pocket items. It is meant to help those who wish to reach end game quicker ... similar to the Dreuths Stone which maxed at lvl 64 ... so from level 15 to ??? it is a good boost to XP
In short, buy the standard one so you can level past 75 and get the mounted combat when it comes around. Hopefully enough people will do that and maybe then WB/Turbine will stop nickle and diming us for "special" items that we don't find out are &&&& until they have the money.
No expansion purchase is needed to progress to level 85 or participate in mounted combat. These features will be available to all players.
Four statted cloaks, all level 75+ so they can't be used by the alts that need the bonus, and my level 75 would be downgrading his cloak if he used it. ....... The stats on the Cloaks are for level 75, pretty obvious that if you are under lvl 75 you cant use em .... Same as saying that its wrong that a level 15 can't use the Phial of Swirling Waters
The "special" horse deed is 60 grinding quest to get... a cosmetic cloak, what a joke. ....You get a Mount Skill for completing the Session Play Deeds, The Cloak for completing 60 Horsey Quests is actually quite nice
The outrider token... worse than the downgrade in armor. 75+ can't use it and those below will give up the much needed stats acquired with Dunland tokens. .... It is not meant as a replacement of pocket items. It is meant to help those who wish to reach end game quicker ... similar to the Dreuths Stone which maxed at lvl 64 ... so from level 15 to ??? it is a good boost to XP
I guess I can see your point, thanks for the intelligent feedback as opposed to attacking like the last person.
Guess I'll content myself by saying that I paid the extra $40 (over basic) for the TP.
Everything was spelled out in numerous forum threads what the package goodies were, how on earth did you miss that?
Since you have already spent the money try to find the positives: alot of new cosmetics you can mix and match with other stuff to make your own unique style, an acct wide horse for every toon you create from now on, cloaks you can equip in cosmetics till you are on level to use them for alts, horse play earlier than alot of folks will get to enjoy and other baubs and whistles. I agree with you that it would be great if you could dye the items but I guess Turbine wanted to make a 'uniform' for the defenders of Middle Earth.
I get that will and fate aren't the preferred stat of a champ, I just happened to be on him when I posted. My point was that you can't collect xp if you're dead, and it seems to me that stats that keep you alive are more important.
OP left out the 2,000 Turbine Points and 6th inventory bag. Arguably the most compelling reason to buy the legendary version. Agree that most of the remaining stuff is mostly useless, though.
I get that will and fate aren't the preferred stat of a champ, I just happened to be on him when I posted. My point was that you can't collect xp if you're dead, and it seems to me that stats that keep you alive are more important.
I have 9 characters all on the same server. Two are sitting at lvl 75. The rest currently range from lvl 15 to lvl 56). Every single one of them slotted the Derudh's Stone until they were unable to use it (which means 7 of them still have the Stone slotted). And I seldom die. In fact, I die more often on my lvl 75s (while doing raids) than I do on any of my other 7 characters. Just because the XP stone doesn't give any will/fate/etc doesn't mean you are doomed to die a lot. *shrug*
My mistake on the crystal... I meant to type (and have corrected it now) the outrider token. My 66 champion isn't gonna want to give up +45 fate/+45 will/+94 max morale for 25% monster kills.
You might not, but others will. Just sayin'. It's all about choice. One feature of the Legendary you forgot to add in your post was the 6th inventory bag. I don't disagree with your conclusion, just clearing things up.
I get that will and fate aren't the preferred stat of a champ, I just happened to be on him when I posted. My point was that you can't collect xp if you're dead, and it seems to me that stats that keep you alive are more important.
I thought you said he didn't want to give up those stats? j/k
I bought the legendary and to me, it is worth it. Your experience may differ. I have used the 6th bag since it popped up. I also use the outriders token on all but my level 75s. The minimal loss of stats is worth the XP gain. Besides, when you get to 75 and slot a pocket item that boosts your stats you feel like a god (or goddess....lol)! The horse is meh, but still a cool free horse. I would also like the armor to be dyable, but the Rohirrim didn't have their armor dyed different colors. And as was stated, the cloaks are good for frsh 75ers who haven't raided yet or just reached that plateau. And the 2k TP is a nice bonus.
I agree that the Legendary Pack is too much money for the content, but I'm not sure how you could possibly not know what you were buying? Everything you stated was well known before buying the pack, its up to the individual consumer to decide if it is worth it for them. Some will decide that it is, others will not.
As for the pocket item, if leveling quickly is your goal, no statted item will make you earn xp faster than the +25% mob xp bonus. Only you can decide if you value xp gain speed or your stats more. Again though, this is something that you know you are paying for when you buy the pack.
Don't come here complaining about what you spent your money on when it was already common knowledge what would be in the packs before purchase. The only thing that has changed are TP and the instances being included, so no matter your opinion, the deals have only improved since release, worth it or not is still up to the consumer.
I get that will and fate aren't the preferred stat of a champ, I just happened to be on him when I posted. My point was that you can't collect xp if you're dead, and it seems to me that stats that keep you alive are more important.
At no point in the game will you die because of not having a pocket item, unless you are grouping, where you can simply switch your Exp item to whatever pocket item you like.
Seriously, man, till lvl 38 my mini wore lvl 20 armor (Couldn't be bothered with gear till endgame), and he was doing better than most. Questing is too easy in this game.
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My mistake on the crystal... I meant to type (and have corrected it now) the outrider token. My 66 champion isn't gonna want to give up +45 fate/+45 will/+94 max morale for 25% monster kills. You kill alot more monsters (and survive alot longer) with what I have already at 66. Maybe it's beneficial if you're lower level, but how many of us are buying it before we get past that stage?
I got the token about lvl 50, and I was 55 friday night. Last night I was 66. GS QM gave me about 300k xp with quests.
Now I get 600-800 xp from a mob. And as champ I kill continously.
I really dont know why you need 45 will, and 94 moral(i have about 4450 moral, so 5% plus).
45 fate or 25% more xp for kill a mob is easy question.
I will hit 75 and start foundry when you seek lvl 70. I think Its a good deal. Especially if I go for some Great River deeds.
And 1 more thing: I think about roll a hunter. (It will amazing pocket item).
It's hardly a flame post. I just spent $70 and felt ripped off. There's nothing I can do about it now, the money's spent. But if someone had listed these things I'd have save myself the cash.
Agree, bonus items were listed. It's just good marketing to present new shiny expansion with "amazing" items. I checked all bundles several times and was waiting for few days.. when instances, TP were added. And then decided for basic 40$..
$70 is just "shiny" rip-off IMHO.
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Well, I broke down and got the ROR legendary version, and here's why I think it's a waste of money:
... [well thought out list of remarks here] ...
In short, buy the standard one so you can level past 75 and get the mounted combat when it comes around. Hopefully enough people will do that and maybe then WB/Turbine will stop nickle and diming us for "special" items that we don't find out are &&&& until they have the money.
Basically I am in complete agreement with this. Previous pre-purchase deals have included some really nice perks, but this one sort of sucks. Neither the horse nor the armour can be dyed so everybody is stuck with that creepy green. At least the horses on the previous pre-purchase came in different colors. Frankly I am sorry I wasted the extra $20.
Originally Posted by wanderv
But they were listed from the beginning.
Well, yes, they were. I guess I was precipitate and foolish to buy before reading. Had I realized that the armour and horses were so &&&&&& I might have saved the money. But it listed "Exclusive armour" and "Exclusive horse" and being a vanity sucker I jumped right in. I paid the $20 stupidity tax. Hopefully Arasul's post will save smarter players paying the tax.
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lol blah blah blah thats all i heard, ok to start off i have been here less than 1 month and i still got the rohan legendary edition. to me the items seem pretty good being that ill be having new level 75 in no time. now i agree with the cosmetic and the coloring part but in a way i dont. i think the reason they did not do that was to give a sense that everyone is an army in that case rohirian army thats what i think. on the coloring part i do wish that i could do as i please with a cosmetic armor and have it colored as i please. the horse stats yes that to me is an insult, why not have it at 70% or 75% instead of 68% i have no clue, my thief stead i got from the lotro is 68% is i believe. eitherway they could of up the speed on it. finally all these items to me still seem ok and its not the end of the world, now i blame you for not reading when you made the purchase cause before you even buy it all 3 editions are on there so you can compare them so that one is on u. i love lotro but i do agree that if your going to make it legendary then add somthing that is not in the lotro or can be bought by npc give me a level 75% horse and ill give u all of mines lol
Ok to start off I have been here less than 1 month and I still got the Rohan Legendary Edition. To me the items seem pretty good being that I'll be having a new level 75 in no time. Now I agree with the cosmetic and the coloring part but in a way I dont. I think the reason they did not do that was to give a sense that everyone is an army in that case Rohirrim army thats what I think. On the coloring part, I do wish that I could do as I please with a cosmetic armor and have it colored as I please.
The horse stats - yes that to me is an insult, why not have it at 70% or 75% instead of 68% I have no clue, my Thief Steed I got from the lotro is 68% I believe. Either way they could of upped the speed on it.
Finally, all these items to me still seem ok and its not the end of the world. Now... I blame you for not reading when you made the purchase, cause before you even buy it, all 3 editions are on there so you can compare them - so that one is on you. I love LoTRO, but I do agree that if you're going to make it Legendary then add somthing that is not in the LoTRO store, or can be bought by an npc - give me a level 75% horse and I'll give you all of mines lol
Easier on the eyes
I will probably end up with the Legendary - for an extra $30, I get the bag, token for alts and Crystal. I'll just eat in an extra day this week and save the $$$
I will have an extra ~3500 TP's in the bank this way as opposed to buying the basic and getting those 3 items for TP. If I am reading correctly, I will actually end up with more - as the Crystal with the Legendary is for EACH character, which is a savings of 995 tp for each one that you would need to buy with the basic - as well as the 25% token???
Well, I broke down and got the ROR legendary version, and here's why I think it's a waste of money:
So did I about three weeks ago
The FULL set of armor can't be dyed (just like the ROI), so who's gonna want to run around looking like everyone else? Kind of defeats the purpose of cosmetic armor.
I agree on this I do not want the same look as everyoine else, but stored in the wardrobe maybe break it out later, I have other cosmetics I have fell in love with form earlier SoA areas.
Four statted cloaks, all level 75+ so they can't be used by the alts that need the bonus, and my level 75 would be downgrading his cloak if he used it.
Well not everyone has the cloak of draigoch, for the casuals out there these are pretty nice.
The "special" horse deed is 60 grinding quest to get... a cosmetic cloak, what a joke.
I actually am loving this, I can not wait to be an horses &&&& for my kin meetings, but that is my personality and my humor.
The outrider token... worse than the downgrade in armor. 75+ can't use it and those below will give up the much needed stats acquired with Dunland tokens.
Many of us have alts below 75, I keep several throughout the level ranges to help kin mates out as they level up, and these make it easier to level.
The horse? You'd think that Turbine could do us the courtesy of making these "special" horses as special as my Ambassador steed (+68/250 morale) so I'd consider riding it some place other than in bree. But no it's the same ordinary stats that we have when we bought our first horse a million years ago at Henstacers.
Well now they are not the same stats as the horse from henestagers, they are the same speed but have more morale. Plus many would be upset for grinding a rep horse or get lucky enough to get a 68% horse from the festival quests like steed of the jester, if they can just buy one with the game expansion, plus you will also get a war steed as soon as RoR goes live.
The tokens from bree to Henstacers... really? oh, thanks for saving me 15 silver pieces and 4 minutes.
I have not used mine, but there has been a couple of times I thought why use all my return to bree and the slow ride to Henestager's if I can just map there. One day I may use it.
In short, buy the standard one so you can level past 75 and get the mounted combat when it comes around. Hopefully enough people will do that and maybe then WB/Turbine will stop nickle and diming us for "special" items that we don't find out are &&&& until they have the money.
You missed a couple of other items like the Kick &&&& LI token to add a major legacy to your LI which makes them nice, the 2000 turbine points a > $20 value, the specialized skill once you complete the nine horsing around quests to heal your war steed in RoR usable 1/day.
Just my 2 cents. Now before the TP addition I was questioning the legendary but now I have to agree i like the package and most of the things included.
The outrider token... worse than the downgrade in armor. 75+ can't use it and those below will give up the much needed stats acquired with Dunland tokens. .... It is not meant as a replacement of pocket items. It is meant to help those who wish to reach end game quicker ... similar to the Dreuths Stone which maxed at lvl 64 ... so from level 15 to ??? it is a good boost to XP
They need to stop giving out these junk tokens and charging us so much for expansions. If you want a quickie item to level, buy it in the store and give the people who are buying the expansions (who need to be 75 to effectively use the expansion) something decent they will actually use.
Well, I broke down and got the ROR legendary version, and here's why I think it's a waste of money:
The FULL set of armor can't be dyed (just like the ROI), so who's gonna want to run around looking like everyone else? Kind of defeats the purpose of cosmetic armor.
Four statted cloaks, all level 75+ so they can't be used by the alts that need the bonus, and my level 75 would be downgrading his cloak if he used it.
The "special" horse deed is 60 grinding quest to get... a cosmetic cloak, what a joke.
The outrider token... worse than the downgrade in armor. 75+ can't use it and those below will give up the much needed stats acquired with Dunland tokens.
The horse? You'd think that Turbine could do us the courtesy of making these "special" horses as special as my Ambassador steed (+68/250 morale) so I'd consider riding it some place other than in bree. But no it's the same ordinary stats that we have when we bought our first horse a million years ago at Henstacers.
The tokens from bree to Henstacers... really? oh, thanks for saving me 15 silver pieces and 4 minutes.
In short, buy the standard one so you can level past 75 and get the mounted combat when it comes around. Hopefully enough people will do that and maybe then WB/Turbine will stop nickle and diming us for "special" items that we don't find out are &&&& until they have the money.
I have to agree with everything you said, the Pre Buy package other than the 2000 Lotro which will be gone in one or two buy's, is pretty jerky, and rude.
As you said the cloaks you get would be a down grade, the exp token is a joke for anyone entering the new map, as they should be level 75 anyway. So what use is it.
The cosmetic armor is turkey, in every way, and just creates a need to buy more Vault space or ward robe space. Which I figure is the Idea.
Really did not give us much for paying the extra bucks for the $70 package. If the ride had been a 68% increase, maybe that and 250 HP along with the extra Inventory might have been something, But it was not, and is just another junky Horse no better, or worse than what you had, actually I ride the one from The ranger hang out because its has more HP, and only special people seem to have the 68% one.
But now I hear the extra Inventory is going to be released at only 1000 Lotro.
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Pretty much right on
Basically I am in complete agreement with this. Previous pre-purchase deals have included some really nice perks, but this one sort of sucks. Neither the horse nor the armour can be dyed so everybody is stuck with that creepy green. At least the horses on the previous pre-purchase came in different colors. Frankly I am sorry I wasted the extra $20.
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