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    Abandon your creep

    This is Fleshstorm. I am a reaver. I am part of a dilusional crowd. I have been tricked into thinking I have a chance to kill a freep that isn't hellbent on running to npc's or if I have the advantage of position 90% of the fight in a 1v1. I am rank 9. I am no sloutch when it comes to pvp. I have recently paid 20$ usd for an undeletion of my reaver. I gotta say I should have spent that money on a &&&&& at a local stripclub. She could have purchased some meth and got more use and satisfaction out of my $ than I did lol. A reaver in the moors hits like a baby on roids. I recently fought an old nemesis of mine in the moors. I got &&&&&. I know in my heart that I have more skill and that I had more fight in this fight than my adversary had. It matters not when a freep is fighting a creep. Any freep with half decent gear and half decent skill can kill the most skilled creep in the moors. This is total bs. Shame on you, Turbine. Skills of any creep of any rank should be able to trump the ezmode passives of any freep. I want to punch you in the face. Violence irl has a tendency of working wonders. Ever hear about the Czars in early 1900's Russia? Ever hear about Louis the whateverteenth? The oppressed have wonderful ways of dealing with their masters. The same people who make laws against physical transgression are the same people who benefit from your slavery.

    I am the voice of the mob. The mob demands equality. I am not suggesting that a brand new creep be able to kill a skilled freep, but give us ranked creeps a fkn chance! We are at such a disadvantage. Wargs and Blackarrows are the only creeps you seem to want to have fun. They are sitting pretty as of now. I, however, did not roll either! Participate in glory! Give creeps with skill a chance against those who you would empower at a whim! If you don't, then I'm afraid that Turbine devs are comprised of those same fknoob freeps who ezmode us without breaking a sweat. Shame on you, Turbine, for even making available a world in which creeps can inhabit. Just pull the plug now. Or is the $ that you make from pvp too great to ignore? Why don't you do us all a fkn favor and pull the plug on pvp right fkn now? No? You make too much $ on it? Well man-up and do something about it bishes. The $ you make as of now on new freeps experimenting on making new creeps is less than the $ from existing creeps who have been here from the start. Cmon man! You make it soo fkn easy for a fail ezmode freep! Why don't you turn in those correct financial reports and tell your superiors about how there is $ in PvP! Get off your asses and build a pvp zone where every soul, whether it be freep or creep, has a minute fkn chance to kill something!

    You have the resources. You have the manpower. You have an infinite number of creep posts to build upon. What you don't have is the balls. From the looks of your dev team they are a bunch of nancies. I could out drink them in a half hour. Empower the people! This game is a laughingstock. Bring back the days of glory! Don't let untried games like GW2 bring you down! There is a reason why many of us have not prepurchased RoR. Amp up all the endgame &&&& you will there will always be a demand for endgame pvp. That is all there is to do after people get sick and tired of you mindless endgame grind for stupid barter items that nobody wants. Make endgame worth something, maggots!



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    If you're playing lotro for the pvp alone I'm pretty sure you're doing it wrong. It's become blatantly obvious that this is a pve focused game. As much as we can try to lie to ourselves and hold out hope for this mythical balance and even a new map to pvp on, the reality seems like it's just not going to happen. They don't care. I would love for them to start caring and prove me wrong, but until then... 8/28/12 can't come any sooner.

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    Flesh, I agree with your sentiment. I would say 99% of the people playing here want to get beat by better players, not better gear/skins. For those of us that have been around, we just keep seeing the disparity grow and grow and no response from turbine.

    The inner Bonnie in me says you have to find something enjoyable about the game...duh!
    I do miss the community here but my money and game time will be spent elsewhere...it's really the only way to say to turbine "man up and fix this &&&&"..no other message will resonate.

    BTW, that other game in a galaxy far away is offering free game time to returning players. FWIW, lvl 10-49 pvp is pretty good and que's are farely instant thanks to the "server merges"...it's a good 'fix' for that pvp itch.
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    Maybe something is wrong about your build? Or could you be missing certain vital skills? I don't know how he does that, but Filgash can beat me if I don't use bubbles, and he's only rank 7. I've seen him somehow heal himself rather intensively in battle, while most of my strikes sting him like a fly. Maybe he's a p2w master, but my point is that a reaver CAN be quite a menace.


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    Devestated pwns my guard, and i beat flesh pretty much 90% of the time with Guner, flesh, maybe you just need to get back into ur old swing of things, or maybe you arent as good as you once were

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerejo1976 View Post
    This is Fleshstorm. I am a reaver. I am part of a dilusional crowd. I have been tricked into thinking I have a chance to kill a freep that isn't hellbent on running to npc's or if I have the advantage of position 90% of the fight in a 1v1.
    I know of multiple people who've seen you solo and fought you and you dying rage away. Hypocrite much?

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    Dayum! Finally someone has the balls to step out and rant. +rep, dude.

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    I'm just waiting for RoR to see how things pan out. Till, then, gonna complete my deed book! Yes, the moors is very unbalanced right now. But they will not have any changes to it until RoR.

    Classes I think are balanced right now:
    -Guards
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    WTB Guard+Warg only moors. No heals, only bloodshed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otdanon View Post
    Maybe something is wrong about your build? Or could you be missing certain vital skills? I don't know how he does that, but Filgash can beat me if I don't use bubbles, and he's only rank 7. I've seen him somehow heal himself rather intensively in battle, while most of my strikes sting him like a fly. Maybe he's a p2w master, but my point is that a reaver CAN be quite a menace.
    Not a single Store bought skill/trait.
    Only heals i have are Glory in Victory and a morale pot.

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    Yeah pvmp is broken, unbalanced, involves too much pve. But you are barking up the wrong tree, Turbine just doesn't give a fk about the moors. You can insult the devs all you want but they just don't care Flesh.

    I regularly fight reavers 1v1. Wadric is one of the toughest. Fissure is up there too but he likes to use Against the Odds or whatever that skill is when others don't. But the first reaver to legit beat me when I wasn't lagging other than Devastated once or twice? Earlind. And it was cuz he times resilience differently than most, stacking wounds, and skill. Maybe a bit of luck too with EoS never critting.

    And just my opinion, but you style of play is outdated in the moors now unless you are a warg. You like to play solo and hunt/camp freeps. Reavers like Arshbok are the ones I worry about. Healers at his back, him leading the charge chopping at my elf buns. Arsh isn't always grouped but when he is its hard to kill him even for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhine0710 View Post
    Not a single Store bought skill/trait.
    Only heals i have are Glory in Victory and a morale pot.
    lies!! just admit you are a p2w master like that noob warg XD ! nah jk man i miss you bud

    and i think i agree pretty much everything Neal says. This game pvp is so broken. Anyway, little tips to turbine: they should add levels and ranks, oh maybe even raid progression into the store!!

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    Flesh, the reason you're failing in the moors isn't because Turbine ruined it, it's because you run away when you get low and refuse to persue a kill like you used to. The moors didn't change, you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskla View Post
    Flesh, the reason you're failing in the moors isn't because Turbine ruined it, it's because you run away when you get low and refuse to persue a kill like you used to. The moors didn't change, you did.
    Have to disagree here or at least counter that this is not entirely accurate. You may have witnessed him running from a fight, but I've seen him sticking it out for the fight plenty and not simply because he's winning. I've have yet to see him run from anyone. I can only assume it's situational and I do not mean simply "Gonna die, time to run".

    Side note: there's really no denying that the Moors is totally busted, Turbine has illustrated over they years just how completely clueless they are with PvP (it's a PvE game) and the community playstyle has changed a lot, especially when compared to when Flesh was last here. Denying these things is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskla View Post
    Flesh, the reason you're failing in the moors isn't because Turbine ruined it, it's because you run away when you get low and refuse to persue a kill like you used to. The moors didn't change, you did.
    Am I the only one to see the irony in this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leksi View Post
    Am I the only one to see the irony in this?
    nope I lol'd

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    Flesh, meet me at the hill near plains OP.. we can 1v1 all day.. I wont win once becaues I suck

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper0889 View Post
    Yeah pvmp is broken, unbalanced, involves too much pve. But you are barking up the wrong tree, Turbine just doesn't give a fk about the moors. You can insult the devs all you want but they just don't care Flesh.

    I regularly fight reavers 1v1. Wadric is one of the toughest. Fissure is up there too but he likes to use Against the Odds or whatever that skill is when others don't. But the first reaver to legit beat me when I wasn't lagging other than Devastated once or twice? Earlind. And it was cuz he times resilience differently than most, stacking wounds, and skill. Maybe a bit of luck too with EoS never critting.

    And just my opinion, but you style of play is outdated in the moors now unless you are a warg. You like to play solo and hunt/camp freeps. Reavers like Arshbok are the ones I worry about. Healers at his back, him leading the charge chopping at my elf buns. Arsh isn't always grouped but when he is its hard to kill him even for me.
    I regularly fight Runekeepers 1v1. Qlimax is one of the toughest. Gundel is up there too but he likes to use Perfect Imagery or whatever that skill is when others don't. But the first reaver to beat me so badly I couldn't even come up with an excuse to blame it on was Rumors. And (Awful sentence structure btw) it was cuz he facerolls his keyboard differently than most, shoots lightning, and skill. Maybe a bit of luck too with all of his skills always critting

    And just my opinion, but youR style of play is outdated in the moors unless you have a pocket healer. You like to kill greenies and rezcamp creeps. Runekeepers like Carli are the ones I worry about. Healers at his back, him leading the charge zapping up my warg...buns (Really?). Carli isn't always grouped but when he is IT'S hard to kill him even for me.

    P.S Just kidding Carli, don't EC me please! I'm starhugging!
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    Flesh is one of my favorite creeps to encounter in the Moors....there's no beating around the bush, he's out there kill stuff, but he doesn't need a raid behind him to do it. Then only time I've seen Flesh run from a fight was when he and I were in a 1V1 (with bystanders) ~1/3 HP, and a certain champ rode up and attacked him. I don't blame him for that.....that sucks.

    I know there is some balance issues with some of the classes, but that is par for the course with MMORPGs....maybe this game is a bit worse than normal right now idk. To me, that's beside the point...that's a set issue, anyone who wants to play in the Moors can choose their class or side, and deal with it. More importantly I think is the way people are playing. Seems there are too few players with any respect. Doesn't anyone ask themselves: "is it fun for the people on the other end of the keyboard too"? It's just a game, no one should mind dying in battle out there, but it's not fun to feel like a punching bag all of the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eskla View Post
    Flesh, the reason you're failing in the moors isn't because Turbine ruined it, it's because you run away when you get low and refuse to persue a kill like you used to. The moors didn't change, you did.
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    I stopped caring about what other's think of me when I open my big mouth a long time ago. Give a guy a like me a 12 pack of beer and it gets even more comical. If only I had a dollar for every time I made a fool of myself. Drunken midnight forum posts don't hold a candle to my antics irl. I make it a point to laugh at myself every day. A humorous contradiction given that my ego is record-breaking. I ragerant often. I do not possess that filter most folks have in their brains that prevents them from blurting out the first thing that comes to mind whenever any situation arises. Maybe I used to have it and it shorted out. Is that why the Check Engine light is always on in my head? If I had a choice to remain the way I am or have a new filter installed I wouldn't change a thing. Saying exactly what you are thinking upon impulse is quite liberating.

    I should have followed my own advice in my Eat Your Veggies thread. Playing a solo creep is a lot like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I get by as a solo creep, but I get left in the dust by my peers who advance at a quicker pace than I. This is because they are grouped up. I do seem to be getting my &&& kicked a lot lately. This is due to my personal rage against tactical classes. I slot 4 tac mit corruptions. This gimps me against all other freeps. Hell, even with all the tac mit Carli still melts my fugly face right off my orc skull. Poor old Flesh looks like a patient at the Gramsfoot Burn Unit. When I came back a few weeks ago I did not slot tac mits at all. They were a waste of time lol. I will be going back to my previous setup. Also there seems to be an alarming amount of lag still. It is stupid. I'm not one for making excuses, but I lose about 25% of my fights due to lag. I'm sure my opponents lose to me as a result of this, too.

    Yes, I do use DR to deny certain freeps a kill. All these folks complaining about it only tell half-truths. What they don't tell you is how the fight started as a 1v1 and their kinnies come out to zerg me. Or how they blow every cd and chime in later about how "I'm just using the skills my class provides me with". So am I, jagoff. Eye for an eye. I have had some great 1v1's against Adino lately. Yes, I die in all of them, but he fights me with honor and I accept my defeat. I will get you one of these days! I just had the chance to fight Proton in a 1v1 while at full aud. He beat me fair and square. In a drunken rage I started this thread. I have no regrets of this, though. I am only saying what's on the tip of everyone's tongues. You see it in creep OOC. You see it in tribe chat. I just put it all in one primal post that I think everyone pretty much agrees with.

    Anyone who has played sports can get where I am coming from when I say that there was always one guy on an opposing team who you used to run over and tackle with ease. You used to trash-talk him without end and assume he had no heart. Then one day that guy throws a block against you that makes you see stars lol. After that moment you start having a certain kind of respect for the guy. Hell, you even start hangin out with the guy and become good friends. It's nowhere near the same as football, but ppl in Lotro have that effect on me, sometimes. Most recent would be Proton. I'm not saying I want to be his friend. I'm just saying I now have a certain respect for him. My apologies for ruining your gratz thread, even though my trolling was pure genius lol. Trash talkin man!

    See you guys on the field. There will be many more ragerants from me in the future. My ragerant idol is any rage scene from Al Pacino in any movie he does. Carry on, maggots!


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    Flesh, feel free to make up any lost infamy on my Hunter. I am 99% sure it is you when I hear the Reaver charge. I also offer up my points to any class of Creep that doesn't die in the first 5 seconds of me being visible.

    Just adjust and press on. I had given up on my Hunter until I saw Dumptruck's war tab. Inspirational, truly.

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    +rep (i don't do that very much. prolly the first time)

    kudos on explaining your post and frustrations. i can understand the sentiment of both posts. i don't vent much and prolly never will but i know how night and day freepside and creepside is. not everyone will care to understand even if the undeniable truth of how tough it can be on a reaver or most other creeps is laid out in front of them on a daily basis. fact is, some like the unbalance and will defend something that feeds their ego. and that's what most frustrations come from in this game. i don't play any other mmos and never have before but i imagine it is the same. it's people, man! we are what we are. human. the better i got on my champ the bigger an ego i developed out there and more frustrated i would get sometimes over zergs/cds/etc. when i made the reaver same thing happened. i rarely ever rage (maybe once or twice in freep ooc a while back....and to scup countless times in our home) but that doesn't mean i don't get mad or whatever sometimes. i think ego is the main source of most frustrations. people defend what they do. it's natural. zerglets or soloers. good or bad. it matters not. we look at thing through our own lens and react accordingly. maybe this is hogwash but it's how i look at things out there. as a result i can brush off frustrations quickly and without raging. someone who ticked me off yesterday is my friend tomorrow and i forget what made me mad. it makes the game more enjoyable for me. and that is what a game is for. to have fun and not be mad all the time. just my 2 cents.

    P.S.: the closest thing i ever seen to the qq and stuff in this game is from a different type of online game and all the qq and frustrations in it dwarf by far the stuff in this game. i speak of fantasy sports games. holy cow! people take their imaginary teams way to seriously. but it stems from the same source...humanity

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    humanity....schumanity....blah blah blah...... the real problem as I see it is too many beers. Try to keep it down to one from now on Flesh.













































    J/K Vudu, good post, well said. +rep


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    abandon your pride

    min is OP but I use to get beaten by most creep you know even with minstrel class build.

    I win mostly by healing. Pretty simple if I can heal more I have better chance to win.

    If Rikz and Alsander didn't show me or told me what to do I would still be losing to most creep now.

    Thing is before they told me I use to think I was best minstrel in the moors.

    Funny but sometime these thing make you keep going

    even it's not true lol. I didn't like it to realize some people is better than me, even it's game, but I choose to accept and listen.

    Sometime one little advice and one skill change everything. Not only in games, in real life too if you don't like what you do, I

    don't think miracle happens and you suddenly like what you do. Usually you make it happen and changes.

    If you don't like it, it just get worst.

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    First of all I completely agree with you Flesh. As a warg I don't have it too hard, but whenever I log onto my spider I notice it really is unfair. Champs bow attacks hit me harden then all my skills hit them.

    Then, I think it's funny how the people denying that freeps are OP, and disagreeing with Fleshstorm are all freeps. And most of them have a fairly known reputation with creeps of being not too skillful.

    There is no way in saying freeps are not OP, the few here that said something about flesh maybe needing to throw his skills around and stuff. This is utter BS, Fleshstorm is imo a great reaver and player. He is r9 and has enough skill so he should be able to blow the most freeps up. Then saying he's not as he used to be is not true, freeps are just way more powerfull. As flesh stated, a halfway decent geared freep with a little skill can blow up most creeps. On my warg, r8, aud 5 I've been killed in 4 !!! attacks by RK's pretty often.

    Before these updates I enjoyed 1vs1'ing a lot, I 1vs1'ed Lemblod, Carli and other often. And usually the win/loss ration was about 50/50. Now when I try to kill either of them, I just plainly get blown up.

    On lemblod my bleeds tick for 37, I crit at highest for 600. While his bleeds tick for 217, and his crits are around 2k.
    Carli I get to 2k while I'm at 8, and then 3 hits later I'm dead. A critted essence of storm, another crit (lightning thingy) and a 4k EC blow me up.

    This is of course ridiculous.

    So: Flesh I agree, and freeps, don't deny it and don't say Flesh is not what he used to be. Because the problem is freeps are not what they used to be; they're way harder to kill.

    Then flesh: Try to stick it out until RoR, hopefully some good changes will be made then. so freeps and creeps are fairly balanced. Espacially reavers, spiders etc. need a good look at, wargs aren't that necissary


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    Quote Originally Posted by the_phoenix View Post
    There is no way in saying freeps are not OP
    Sure there is. Freeps are not OP... Creeps in general are underpowered. Freeps need the skills and cooldowns they get to deal with endgame raiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_phoenix View Post
    First of all I completely agree with you Flesh. As a warg I don't have it too hard, but whenever I log onto my spider I notice it really is unfair. Champs bow attacks hit me harden then all my skills hit them.

    Then, I think it's funny how the people denying that freeps are OP, and disagreeing with Fleshstorm are all freeps. And most of them have a fairly known reputation with creeps of being not too skillful.

    There is no way in saying freeps are not OP, the few here that said something about flesh maybe needing to throw his skills around and stuff. This is utter BS, Fleshstorm is imo a great reaver and player. He is r9 and has enough skill so he should be able to blow the most freeps up. Then saying he's not as he used to be is not true, freeps are just way more powerfull. As flesh stated, a halfway decent geared freep with a little skill can blow up most creeps. On my warg, r8, aud 5 I've been killed in 4 !!! attacks by RK's pretty often.

    Before these updates I enjoyed 1vs1'ing a lot, I 1vs1'ed Lemblod, Carli and other often. And usually the win/loss ration was about 50/50. Now when I try to kill either of them, I just plainly get blown up.

    On lemblod my bleeds tick for 37, I crit at highest for 600. While his bleeds tick for 217, and his crits are around 2k.
    Carli I get to 2k while I'm at 8, and then 3 hits later I'm dead. A critted essence of storm, another crit (lightning thingy) and a 4k EC blow me up.

    This is of course ridiculous.

    So: Flesh I agree, and freeps, don't deny it and don't say Flesh is not what he used to be. Because the problem is freeps are not what they used to be; they're way harder to kill.

    Then flesh: Try to stick it out until RoR, hopefully some good changes will be made then. so freeps and creeps are fairly balanced. Espacially reavers, spiders etc. need a good look at, wargs aren't that necissary
    +Rep.

    I too play a warg, and we have it pretty well right now. So do Blackarrows. Not great, but good.

    I feel bad for the other classes, mainly Reaver and Warleader. My Warleader has the dps of a norbog, and my reaver's survivability level is ridiculous. Not sure if this is just me being a poor player, or if everyone is feeling this way.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJaZn View Post
    Sure there is. Freeps are not OP... Creeps in general are underpowered.
    Are you sure? It always seemed like a mix of both problems to me.
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    Even with how Reavers are i still find them funner then my warden it can be rough when you vs a freep who knows what they're doing but i spose its like that for hunter's also. We sadly rely on how much they crit to win but if you trait right helps alot. Just keep trying eventually find the right rotation for each class even player

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglloyde View Post
    Flesh is one of my favorite creeps to encounter in the Moors....there's no beating around the bush, he's out there kill stuff, but he doesn't need a raid behind him to do it. Then only time I've seen Flesh run from a fight was when he and I were in a 1V1 (with bystanders) ~1/3 HP, and a certain champ rode up and attacked him. I don't blame him for that.....that sucks.
    ^ thats what I was gunna say


    ::***gross generality based off observation only and directed at no one in particular***::
    Are you guys serious saying anything about Fleshstorm? We complain about being killed by groups of creeps at a time, but when a raging soloing fearless reaver shows up we cry in our pants, and when said reaver loses a fight we puff up and start talking? What Vudu said about being stupid humans.

    I've never seen Flesh run from a fight, so it's obviously not him but something someone else is doing. I gotta say, some of my favorite times in moors right now is hearing that reaver charge from my left earsoundthing and being off my horse before I know it. Who cares how the encounter will end, it's just refreshing to be engaged by an actual fighter. And reavers being my favorite class to fight, I'm appreciative of the repeated assaults. Thanks dood

    Creeps AND freeps could all use to take a page from Fleshstorm book
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerejo1976 View Post
    Abandon your creep

    Flesh
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunerx View Post
    flesh, maybe you just need to get back into ur old swing of things, or maybe you arent as good as you once were

    You know, I took a break from my warg (well, kind of deleted her) for a good few months. In the time that I didn't have her, the class changed completely, and audacity was introduced. Upon playing her again... I didn't stand half a chance against any freep, much less the ones I used to beat regularly. Is it because I am not as good as I once was? I used to think so. But now I just think it's the game that has changed completely, making it miserable to play my warg anymore.

    A long time ago when Ridder was new (and I was new) and the level cap was 65, I considered myself pretty good at my warg. I remember a time when I subbed to this game (paid fifteen bucks a month) JUST to play my warg. I was in complete love with the class. I had a blast with it.

    Rank 7 was the highest rank you'd see looming around. I remember being rank 6 and being able to win against any freep if I really wanted to. I played seriously and I wouldn't give up until I won. Gear and CDs seemed to matter much less then...

    If anyone reading this remembers that time, can you empathize with me? I believe that was probably the most balanced I've ever seen the moors. I remember that, if you were good, you were GOOD. On any character. People didn't have to wonder if the player was actually that good, or if it was the gear/p2w skills that made him good... I seem to ask that question a lot now.

    Nine days ago I re-subbed to the game, mostly to PvE/level a character. I have decided I will no longer spend money on this game, though, as Turbine has made me loathe logging on to my warg (or into the moors for that matter... creep or freep).

    Abandon your creep? I think yes. Abandon game even. I only play now to hang out with my friends.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrJaZn View Post
    If you're playing lotro for the pvp alone I'm pretty sure you're doing it wrong. It's become blatantly obvious that this is a pve focused game. As much as we can try to lie to ourselves and hold out hope for this mythical balance and even a new map to pvp on, the reality seems like it's just not going to happen. They don't care. I would love for them to start caring and prove me wrong, but until then... 8/28/12 can't come any sooner.
    This... another reason to not expect much improvement in PvP.

    I never wanted to believe it, but it's blatantly obvious to me now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerejo1976 View Post
    I am the voice of the mob. The mob demands equality.

    Mob: Equality?
    [scoffs]
    Mob: You'd better flush out your head, new guy. This isn't about equality; this is a slaughter. If I'm gonna get my balls zerged off for a word, my word is "poontang".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ContraMundum View Post

    Mob: Equality?
    [scoffs]
    Mob: You'd better flush out your head, new guy. This isn't about equality; this is a slaughter. If I'm gonna get my balls zerged off for a word, my word is "poontang".
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    Quote Originally Posted by astalyn View Post
    Lots of words about the old days
    The pre-RoI days were definitely more fun for me PvP wise. Since they introduced Audacity I think I've gained like 20k total renown, the game just doesn't interest me anymore.


    Remember the good fights we used to have Akara? I found this in my (compared to yours, tiny) screenshot folder.



    Fights like that were just so much fun.

    Much love to all, haven't seen a lot of you in awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astalyn View Post
    You know, I took a break from my warg (well, kind of deleted her) for a good few months. In the time that I didn't have her, the class changed completely, and audacity was introduced. Upon playing her again... I didn't stand half a chance against any freep, much less the ones I used to beat regularly. Is it because I am not as good as I once was? I used to think so. But now I just think it's the game that has changed completely, making it miserable to play my warg anymore.

    A long time ago when Ridder was new (and I was new) and the level cap was 65, I considered myself pretty good at my warg. I remember a time when I subbed to this game (paid fifteen bucks a month) JUST to play my warg. I was in complete love with the class. I had a blast with it.

    Rank 7 was the highest rank you'd see looming around. I remember being rank 6 and being able to win against any freep if I really wanted to. I played seriously and I wouldn't give up until I won. Gear and CDs seemed to matter much less then...

    If anyone reading this remembers that time, can you empathize with me? I believe that was probably the most balanced I've ever seen the moors. I remember that, if you were good, you were GOOD. On any character. People didn't have to wonder if the player was actually that good, or if it was the gear/p2w skills that made him good... I seem to ask that question a lot now.

    Nine days ago I re-subbed to the game, mostly to PvE/level a character. I have decided I will no longer spend money on this game, though, as Turbine has made me loathe logging on to my warg (or into the moors for that matter... creep or freep).

    Abandon your creep? I think yes. Abandon game even. I only play now to hang out with my friends.




    This... another reason to not expect much improvement in PvP.

    I never wanted to believe it, but it's blatantly obvious to me now.

    Haha, I can relate to this.

    I remember the first time I created a warg, there was an ec/ta fight, I kept getting killed. I then saw a warg named Akara, she was r6 or r7, at least she was blue :O. I thought it was a very high rank, I think I asked you if I could group up with you. And you said yes. You probably don't remember but seeing you pounce and burn down one of them in the middle of a raid made me fall in love with wargs.

    Of course, later I learned the moors wasn't as kind as the first day I logged in, groups didn't take me up because I was low rank. Only the raids of MMM, which I enjoyed a lot. I think I got about r4 when I then encountered a solo freep and killed him myself. Much to my surprise.

    From that day I soloed a lot, and imo got better. At about r6 I enjoyed fighting in in 1vs1 circles, because I would win many fights, or at least stood a chance. I tried to kill burglars like Alsander, and even tough I rarely got them I kept going on. I got r7 and won even more fights.

    And then RoI came, I leveled a freep I had been going in the moors from lvl 40 to lvl 75, and spend most of my time in the moors. Until the update that I couldn't enjoy creepside anymore because I rarely won/win fights 1vs1. Maybe I have become less skilled, I probably have, but it irritates me that I lose to freeps I know I'm able to win against if they wouldn't be OP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfingers158 View Post
    I found this in my (compared to yours, tiny).

    Much love to all, haven't seen a lot of you in awhile.
    +rep

    It takes a BIG man to admit he's tiny, good for you buddy
    saw someone commented after U10 spiders were OP as Fk
    man I laughed so hard I wet myself and tears streamed down my face
    I pondered, obviously they don't play a spider main.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davarto View Post
    +rep

    It takes a BIG man to admit he's tiny, good for you buddy
    Gangly, I may have to log on to the game just to camp your burrow now.

    Missed you <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leksi View Post
    OMG Animal Mother was so hot. I forgot how much I always wanted to bang Adam Baldwin.

    mmmmmmmmmm
    I remember when I was at school, I wanted him to be my bodyguard and beat up all the mean kids!

    ...maybe its not too late.....I could get him to come out to the Moors with me, and beat up all the mean freeps! :O

    OMG there are soooooooooooo many mean freeps, they hurt my feelings and make me cry every single day!
    saw someone commented after U10 spiders were OP as Fk
    man I laughed so hard I wet myself and tears streamed down my face
    I pondered, obviously they don't play a spider main.

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