Thread: Congrats Konfident on rank 12

Originally Posted by TellinItAsItIs

In comparison to that "Talks alot of garbage about freeps" yes I may have extended it, I do apologize, though I have seen him agree with some more rude things said about freep side,

Though in the same way of context that Atoktal has said "No one cares for what you have to say", he would theoretically apologize, when clearly persons from both sides have shouted out to me good wishes.


Then again we are all human with flaws and what not, and yes, everyone is welcome to their own opinion.

Should definitly change the name to tellinitlikeIthinkitis... just sayin

Congrats Kon for ranking up, it has been a long run for you, no doubt. So I commend you for your perseverance!
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Now for other matters, the one thinking he's a neutral man should stop trying to smart-talk everything and everyone. We all know the truth about your kind. You are no open-minded vigilante, but and arrogant sucker for comments. If you want attention, you should look for it elsewhere, you may get the wrong sort of attention here. And yes freeps are very OP, the reason why Kon has gotten so far is because of his skill. The reason most freeps have gotten so far is because their power and unbalances that Turbine has given them. And if you want to tell us about Kon hiding in keeps, you better have something to back it up. I have not once seen him do such a thing. I even know the guy personally too, and he is kind, and levelheaded. Very high above your mudslinging and misjudgement. As for Atoktal, she does not misjudge any of you, and has never "talked garbage" about any of you. As for "Konfident's corner", let him have it, it's a strategy game. I can tell you where your people's corners are too.

~Demri

Originally Posted by TellinItAsItIs

Freeps don't like creeps, creeps don't like freeps, this is why we kill each other, no?

Wasn't the moors about having fun and relaxing? Seems alot of people have lost that along the way.

Though you can tell here, that Konfident plays for enjoyment and nothing less, which is rarely seen on any sides.

Now no one can not respect and admire that.

"The Freep don't like creeps, creeps don't like freeps," makes you sound like a noob, at least one that has only played Freepside, since most people play or used to play both. My guess from your posts is you're Ratslayer, or someone else from SnH, that hasn't really played Creepside, especially against the Garnival much, you don't seem to get the brokeness of the faction balance, calling out Plok and other craid leaders for avoidance tactics on the other thread. If so, I can tell you having SnH members playing on Creepside in raids with us hasn't made a difference. Anyway, man up and tell us who you are or quiet down and go away.

Didn't want two posts, was extended into the one above.

Forum has bugged me into two posts. Read above.

When veteran creeps AND freeps promote this type of play style theres nothing much to do except watch pvp die lil by lil as time passes by.

For example

One day I'm strolling around buffalo beach on the burg and see more than 6 creeps killing Garny who is solo at the time right on top off the map in, so I step in and kill garny's target as he goes down himself. Afterwards I target ratdeath and the very second she realized it she blew sprint and kited me while more than 6 other creeps ranged and burned me down...

I can guarantee that if I would have switched targets the next guy would have done the same...why would I think that?...cause it happend 3times in a row tonight.

Are you ppl really here to pvp? Running from 1 player even though its obvious he's going to die anyway cause you have your entire group/raid focusing him while he's fighting you all by himself?!

You ppl don't even give yourselves a chance at improving your play at all, just find the easiest way to face roll rank your way up there and feel accomplished for it

Originally Posted by sebo2yoface

Almost all the creeps that posted in defense of konf share his play style.

The ones that will run from fights or even use skills like hips/sprint/moving target/burrow etc when fighting a single freep while having 3 or more on him.

Why even play if your not gonna pvp

Freeps gain nothing from rank as it is so..

Cause you can talk about anyone else... RIOT

I see many creeps and freeps think Konfident is a skilled player and a good guy. Maybe you are right, maybe not.

I am sure you think that I am a bad guy cuz I wrote some bad comments about somebody. I am sure some creeps will never invite me to a group. Thats your choice. I respect that. I play the Moors cuz I like helping creeps - this is the reason I play defiler class.

So let me explain why I wrote some negative comments about somebody:

First of all I respect all players - freeps and creeps even Konfident. He is not my friend anymore and I think he is not the best BA on landy but he is not the worst BA of course.

I know that guy more than 3 years. We were friends. We played a couple games together. It was fun and I liked him. One day we started to play the moors. I really liked it. Our group was quite strong and we could kill all freeps we saw cuz we had a BA, defiler, spider and WLR (and occasionally a reaver) - it was almost an ideal group. Playing the moors was very fun. One day the BA said that we had been stealing his infamy points and left our group. We didnt like that and we criticized that. Therefore the BA left our tribe. He didnt need us - he plays ranked DPS class therefore he doesnt need a defiler, spider or WLR. He can kill all freeps from distance. He threw away our friendship - he didnt need us to get infamy points, he didnt need the friendship. It wasnt fair and I am still angry. I hope somebody understands me.

I still have some good friends in the moors and I appreciate that. But I am sad I have lost a good friend cuz I was stealing some stupid points.

I am disapointed and this could be the reason I wrote some negative/bad comments about somebody.

If I insulted somebody, I apologize for that. I just wanted to say my opinion.

I'll be your friend Arrangaar

Don't... Take... Banesrune's... Candy...

Originally Posted by TEMPLAR.CZ

I regret that slander from Aran.
I told him the reason why I left.
I do not know what he wants to achieve in this negotiation.
Everyone has a different point of view.
At each forum can write what he wants, but it does not mean it's true.
I do not intend to throw dirt on someone.
If people no longer understand
or disagree, so they break up.
Otherwise, thank you all for your good wishes and support.
The Moors'm not playing the honorary knight.

Hello,
are you really joking, that I'm who is throwing the dirt on you? It is funny, because you are wrong. I'm not here to insult anyone. When you were leaving us, you said : "I'll be rather alone than be in tribe where it doesn't work." Did you ask yourself why it didn't work? I think, that in tribe based on teamplay and fun, we don't need someone who want to be a lone wolf. A most of time when we were grouped you were far away from us. (e.g. our group was pushing into EC and you were staying on STAB, isn't it annoying?) When you saw a small burglar you ran away toward TA. When you saw more than 2 freeps you rather mapped to grams. There is a next reason why we had a conflict, you really enjoyed that bloody fight for BAs called "TA-window, STA, STAB, EC", but this type of fighting isn't for all classes. We rather roamed map and tried to find small group of freeps and fight them.

I'm sorry that all members of Dark Blades stole your infamy when we were grouping with you. With this sentence we lost our last patience. Me, Mlsoun and Arrangaar haven't a problem with duels, we like it, it is a part of the Moors and it show up your skill. Moreover, yeah I'm primary creep, but don't forget that freep need much time to get their gear from instances or from rep. guilds.

I'm ignoring you in game, so I don't need to throw dirt on you or insult you, like you insulted me. You said: "Go rather lick Lalgo's and Minipied's b****m" after I played one day on my RK level 70 in the moors to gain a cloak. Is it funny what you said? I have never forgotten that. I know, that your opinion about freeps is mostly negative, but they are same players like creeps, but only playing other side. Ok I'm at the end of expression my opinion and putting the things right.

Finally grats on r12, but it is silly to say that it was deserved (just my opinion).

Banes,
you and your group can corpsejump me freely and this is a significant privilege.

I always give you some time to corpsejump me.

lol yeah and I try and give you some time to get a few jumps in on me as well our group always has a laugh about it

Screw the hate, there is a reason why I say "oh f*** its Konfident" when I see you. Grats on rank 12, see you around!

Grats Konfident.

Originally Posted by Maryam

"The Freep don't like creeps, creeps don't like freeps," makes you sound like a noob, at least one that has only played Freepside, since most people play or used to play both. My guess from your posts is you're Ratslayer, or someone else from SnH, that hasn't really played Creepside, especially against the Garnival much, you don't seem to get the brokeness of the faction balance, calling out Plok and other craid leaders for avoidance tactics on the other thread. If so, I can tell you having SnH members playing on Creepside in raids with us hasn't made a difference. Anyway, man up and tell us who you are or quiet down and go away.

Are you really going to bring up our kin again? get over yourself. And FYI almost all of the PVPers in S&H have 1 or more ranked creeps...

Well, we'll to the laundry in a public forum.
Specifically, the situation with the cloak.
He broke into groups with freeps fought against me.
So I Told Him That I was an honor to acquaint him with Konfiho
arrows.
2x I killed him.
Then he felt very offended and Concerned, Even it did not take a joke.
You yourself have one of Those Who grossly insulted freeps.
Even then Rhaksasa seen.
Then goes Lalgo to help him with a cloak!
So I reminded him ironically.
That after he stopped Saying hello and it was the second time already.
For the first time he stopped to greet,
When I left the group with him and Aran, because the bears killed for the fur.
I asked Arankathill Whether it is with me to see the TA.
Meanwhile Could he finish the Aran fur.
The TR spawn circle.
He did not answer me, so I went alone so far, then the rough voice snapped me what I would like to leave the group.
The Difference Between Us min. 22 years.
So I politely but him firmly rebuked, to calm Himself.
He stopped to hello me for it.
Arangaar, it was one, the no reaction.
The group I stopped going after Mls min. 1v1 2 hours and did not care,
That there is a friend of the tribe.
I asked him if the creation of the group, but rejected it.
So I started solo.
Even When I went with Them and with BA in the group,
I listened to angry remarks,
That I still kill freeps.
Yea Ba have skill revenge.
That too was a problem and added to it.
The problem of the escapes.
Intensely hated, that do not stand a meter from freeps.
Indeed, the great shooting distance and not even be entirely at the tactical freeps, because then I interrupt induction and the hardest problem to use skill (Vital and Headshoot).
Especially against Minstrels.
I was the only dps, so I wanted to hit as much force.
I stood at the EC in the middle and shot.
It happened, however, that Arang and WL died in Ec and I turned the evade and I managed to escape to STAB.
Immediately, I was accused of cowardice.
Already at this moment was for me the game no fun, but torture.
another reason why I decided to leave and play solo.
I am disgusted to say in a public forum.
Unfortunately, dry things have to respond.
It is not enough to leave, They must die, then Be satisfied.
It is a Shameful and undignified.
I'm embarrassed to pull theses things on a public forum.
Unfortunately, people must know Both Sides of the Coin.
I take it as an International Disgrace.
Yeah, we are such Czechs.
Sorry the article is that perhaps at least somewhat understandable.
I translate with google.
No matter what one wants to believe it is every thing.
From now on, anything you write on the forum and Aran Aranka., I will not respond.
Even if you wrote anything.
I'm not going to continue to participate in such filth.

Thanks for the congratulations and good luck and fun in the Moors.

Congrats on R12, Konfident!

Also, congrats on the best grats thread I've seen.

Originally Posted by Maryam

"The Freep don't like creeps, creeps don't like freeps," makes you sound like a noob, at least one that has only played Freepside, since most people play or used to play both. My guess from your posts is you're Ratslayer, or someone else from SnH, that hasn't really played Creepside, especially against the Garnival much, you don't seem to get the brokeness of the faction balance, calling out Plok and other craid leaders for avoidance tactics on the other thread. If so, I can tell you having SnH members playing on Creepside in raids with us hasn't made a difference. Anyway, man up and tell us who you are or quiet down and go away.

*Off-Topic portion, On-Topic further down*
You do realize rat was playing creepside long before you were in the moors? Also, TellinItAsItIs has brought forward many good points in this thread, while it may not be the best place to put them, it's still a welcome opinion, in my eyes at the very least. And the whole premise of the moors is that Freeps and Creeps don't get along. Am I a noob for saying that? I can assure you I have been around long before you. When you are on a freep, you don't get along with creeps, and vice-versa. Also, the majority of SnH do have high or mid ranked creeps. Does Brutalash ring a bell? How about Trepounce? Dirtluk? Quanchi? I could go on and on. Avoidance tactics also are useless. What exactly does wiping do to you in LOTRO? Your bodies can't be looted, so what difference does it make? SnH creep raids are VERY effective, they're skilled players in general and are able to do much more than most creep raids.

*On-Topic*
Grats Priority Target, I really don't care if people think you deserve it or not, you obviously made the Infamy, so you do deserve it. If you made the points you get the rank. Doesn't matter what tactics you used.

Originally Posted by sebo2yoface

..... Afterwards I target ratdeath and the very second she realized it she blew sprint and kited me while more than 6 other creeps ranged and burned me down...

I can guarantee that if I would have switched targets the next guy would have done the same...why would I think that?...cause it happend 3times in a row tonight.

Are you ppl really here to pvp? Running from 1 player even though its obvious he's going to die anyway cause you have your entire group/raid focusing him while he's fighting you all by himself?!

You ppl don't even give yourselves a chance at improving your play at all, just find the easiest way to face roll rank your way up there and feel accomplished for it

whats wrong with kiting? if you are not kited, you will get the kill on anything you target, cc is your main ability and to avoid that, one has to get away from you. Who enjoys being grey barred? As a creep, its my foremost task to avoid renown to any freep. I dont play the 'honorable knight' I am a mindless animal when on my warg. I act on animal-instinct.

you have put yourself in a group v 1 situation and going to die, why should I or anyone else give you any grace renown if you can be killed before that?

And that IS my playstyle and I dont care what anyone think about it (anymore), if you hate it or me, then do whatever you want to me in the game, dont expect a solution to that on the forums.

In response to: Are you ppl really here to pvp?

what is your definition of pvp anyways? P = player , v = vs , p = player, and thats all i see, IT IS A pvp, you are a player, all those 6 including ratdeath and garny are players, and they are fighting vs each other. isnt that PVP?

thats the beauty (or call it whatever ironic term you like) of pvp that it cannot be standardized, the unpredictability of it is what makes people so interested in it. Its the need to adjust to the ever changing strategies, tactics, situations on the field that makes it PVP. If it was always known what odds you were facing or how the other side was going to turn up around the corner, it would be just another of those highly defined, challenging but still known-strategy instances which all of the freeps play every day. So get over it, anything which happens in the moors among freeps and creeps IS PVP, no matter if you like it or not.

Originally Posted by Lady_Ash

whats wrong with kiting? if you are not kited, you will get the kill on anything you target, cc is your main ability and to avoid that, one has to get away from you. Who enjoys being grey barred? As a creep, its my foremost task to avoid renown to any freep. I dont play the 'honorable knight' I am a mindless animal when on my warg. I act on animal-instinct.

you have put yourself in a group v 1 situation and going to die, why should I or anyone else give you any grace renown if you can be killed before that?

And that IS my playstyle and I dont care what anyone think about it (anymore), if you hate it or me, then do whatever you want to me in the game, dont expect a solution to that on the forums.

+1 rep

I wanted to mention that Czech women are smoking hot! Love Prague!!

Oh.. and congrats... for R12 and an exceptionally lengthy pissing match on the forums. Almost as fun as getting jumped by 5 creeps in grothum

I am not here to tell anyone what to say or not say, but I am certainly here to congrats the dude. Grats Konf, I dont see you out often because of your time zone, but regardless of whatever anybody says, rank = consistency, and that is an accomplishment.

[QUOTE=Nuth_KM;6286960]I wanted to mention that Czech women are smoking hot! Love Prague!!

Yea,It's true!

Grats on Rank 12 Konfident.


Also i'm with Hromgar on this one...

This is the most EPIC grats thread ever.

Freeps fighting freeps/Creeps fighting Creeps/Creeps fighting Freeps.

Originally Posted by Lady_Ash

whats wrong with kiting? if you are not kited, you will get the kill on anything you target, cc is your main ability and to avoid that, one has to get away from you. Who enjoys being grey barred? As a creep, its my foremost task to avoid renown to any freep. I dont play the 'honorable knight' I am a mindless animal when on my warg. I act on animal-instinct.

you have put yourself in a group v 1 situation and going to die, why should I or anyone else give you any grace renown if you can be killed before that?

And that IS my playstyle and I dont care what anyone think about it (anymore), if you hate it or me, then do whatever you want to me in the game, dont expect a solution to that on the forums.

In response to: Are you ppl really here to pvp?

what is your definition of pvp anyways? P = player , v = vs , p = player, and thats all i see, IT IS A pvp, you are a player, all those 6 including ratdeath and garny are players, and they are fighting vs each other. isnt that PVP?

thats the beauty (or call it whatever ironic term you like) of pvp that it cannot be standardized, the unpredictability of it is what makes people so interested in it. Its the need to adjust to the ever changing strategies, tactics, situations on the field that makes it PVP. If it was always known what odds you were facing or how the other side was going to turn up around the corner, it would be just another of those highly defined, challenging but still known-strategy instances which all of the freeps play every day. So get over it, anything which happens in the moors among freeps and creeps IS PVP, no matter if you like it or not.

If I could chime in here, whilst you are perfectly welcome to play in any style that you choose which falls within the ToS, the type of play mentioned here is largely regarded as cheap and being on the receiving end of such behaviour constantly, I can tell you that it can at times be infuriating.

I'll give you a few examples of real situations whilst trying to keep names out of it. Most people know that my warden is ALWAYS spear traited in the moors. For those who don't know what that means, it means I have basically squat for self heals. So a while back, my warden was attacked by a 24 man warg-pack, (yes, 24, I came over after this and spoke to people in the raid). Now, it wouldn't even matter if I was shield traited, ANY solo freep being ganked by a 24 strong pack, is going to go down. Still, I had a few tricks that would ensure I wouldn't die instantly and could at least use a few skills on my way down, which I did, rather than try to escape, and yet, even whilst in the comfort and security and zero-risk situation of 24vs1, the warg that I happened to target hit sprint and kited me until I eventually succumbed. No matter, I thought, I'll come back and have another go. It's a pretty impossible situation but still, it's nice to push one self and try to acheive something when truly up against it. Perhaps when I return, and show the pack that I'm beng aggressive and not going to hide in a keep because of one death, they will show a bit of class and at least fight me straight up. What do you suppose happened? That's right, 23 wargs attack and chew on single me, whilst the 1 warg I'm targetting hits sprint and kites. How brave.

I'm sure the warg pack was out looking for fun fights, as most people are, but when you encounter someone else looking for fun fights, and you treat that with contempt and then hide behind a psuedo-RP excuse, what you get is the people looking for fun fights avoiding you, and then being left with the scraps of players who hide in keeps or behind one-shotters. Then starts the ooc flaming and bashing about people hiding in keeps or behind one-shotters all the while not realising that the situation was initiated by effectively griefing those people who ARE prepared to be aggressive and engage you.

The following situation has happened so many times it's genuinely laughable. My hunter, the single squishiest class, freep or creep, to grace the moors, is always ungrouped. I find myself in 2, 3, 4, 6, 20 v 1 situations ALL the time. I have no escape skills, no emergency skills, nothing. Yet, I'm there, looking for fights, regardless of the numbers, and dying a hell of a lot because of it. So what do you suppose happens when my hunter finds himself in the middle of a 2 or 3 or 6 or 20 v 1? Pretty much the same thing. The one person I'm attacking will hips, sprint, burrow, pop moving target, uruk heal, ANYTHING to protect there precious rating, even though they are more often than not getting healed and bubbled. That's right, they are getting heals, bubbles, and all sorts of group support, and yet, because of the possibility of maybe going below half health, they will do anything, and pop anything to avoid it. It's hilarious. Protect your precious stars little creepies, because your ego's and dignity takes a battering everytime you do something like that. I mean, I could maybe understand it vs. a champ or a guard or a mini or something, that might take slightly longer than 5s to kill, and may be able to do the 10-20k damage necessary to maybe get a kill, in that time, but a hunter, the single most unthreatening class ever when outnumbered, the single class that is NOT GETTING AWAY no matter what*, there is going to be juicy infamy for all regardless. Like I said, it's laughable.

*(Yes, technically I, as a hobbit hunter, have flop/df as a tool to get away when being ganked. Flop is ONE HOUR cooldown and it is by no means guaranteed to get df off when I rise. In fact, there is a mechanic which should ensure that I NEVER get it off, and the fact that I do sometimes is a failure on part of the creeps camping my flop and thus deserve no infamy anyway)

Now, this may fall on unsympathetic ears. I'm sure many of the responses will be to the effect of "deal with it" or the like, and, considering I keep coming back for more, even when faced with such cheap tactics and behaviour, should indicate that I do deal with it and when it gets to me, I just log.

But here is another example which you may feel differently about. I'm sure he won't mind me mentioning his name, as I think it's quite important for the context. Also, I'm quite aware of peoples opinions on fightclubs, this was not that, no need to get into a hiss about it.

Yesterday, I rode by a 1v1 between Jetsu and Burglartarget. I stayed mounted and watched. It was pretty even when I got there, although Jetsu was pretty much on his last legs with regards to power, and it was only a matter of time. Yet, the fight went on a minute or two, a champ rode up, saw the fight, saw me, and stood and watched. A couple of wargs unstealthed and sat and watched, a reaver came by, and watched. BT eventually won the fight. He healed up, the champ who was there jumped up and down and they begun to fight. The champ did pretty well and got BT down to about 3k health, but eventually lost. Then, just as BT was about to start healing back up, a burg (again, no names), popped out, and tried to gank him. I smirked. BT is a great player and he told me after he supposed that burg needed a headstart. BT fought back, and after some time, his health was at about 10k, and the burg was below 1k. I'll give you one guess what happened next. That's right, the burg hips'd. Pretty cheap huh? You come in, looking for easy, cheap renown, and yet, as soon as it becomes apparent that you might be in danger of losing, buh bye. My only surprise was that he left it so late to hips. I mean, it was quite obvious from the way the fight was going that he simply wasn't going to hit hard enough to trouble BT, so he was going to lose no matter what. Why waste everyones time? Anyway, that's an aside. The main point is the cheap playstyle, which, like you and your choice of playstyle, he/she was perfectly welcome to play like that.

For those who were concerned about the potential fightclub scenario unfolding, BT and I went up to candy mountain immediately after this to have our own 1v1 (which he won, but I got him back later behind TR =P). Incidently, as I rode down from GV to find him again for a rematch, I got jumped by a BA, a reaver, a warg and a defiler. I shrugged and targetted the r12 BA, who was being healed by the defiler, and to my {non}surprise, he had hit moving target and had backed into tr npc's. Ironic. I call someone out in freep ooc for being cheap, then a few minutes later, I'm on the receiving end myself. C'est la vie....

Anyway, this has become a bit of a long post with big paragraphs so I'm sure most people have just skimmed through it. If you read it all, thank you. There's not really a summary apart from the first thing I said, play how you like, but don't expect not to be called out when you play cheaply.

Last point, I know all of this happens by both freeps and creeps, but as a mainly freep, I experience it from creeps, and as a perhaps unwisely aggressive solo freep, I experience it more than the average player. I see freeps doing it to, as I mentioned, and when I see it or experience it, I envisage salivating caricatures, deperate for a drop of cheap, easy, no risk renown/infamy, literally spazzing out when the cheap renown/infamy actually fights back, and I chuckle.

Originally Posted by pibob314

If I could chime in here, whilst you are perfectly welcome to play in any style that you choose which falls within the ToS, the type of play mentioned here is largely regarded as cheap and being on the receiving end of such behaviour constantly, I can tell you that it can at times be infuriating.

I'll give you a few examples of real situations whilst trying to keep names out of it. Most people know that my warden is ALWAYS spear traited in the moors. For those who don't know what that means, it means I have basically squat for self heals. So a while back, my warden was attacked by a 24 man warg-pack, (yes, 24, I came over after this and spoke to people in the raid). Now, it wouldn't even matter if I was shield traited, ANY solo freep being ganked by a 24 strong pack, is going to go down. Still, I had a few tricks that would ensure I wouldn't die instantly and could at least use a few skills on my way down, which I did, rather than try to escape, and yet, even whilst in the comfort and security and zero-risk situation of 24vs1, the warg that I happened to target hit sprint and kited me until I eventually succumbed. No matter, I thought, I'll come back and have another go. It's a pretty impossible situation but still, it's nice to push one self and try to acheive something when truly up against it. Perhaps when I return, and show the pack that I'm beng aggressive and not going to hide in a keep because of one death, they will show a bit of class and at least fight me straight up. What do you suppose happened? That's right, 23 wargs attack and chew on single me, whilst the 1 warg I'm targetting hits sprint and kites. How brave.

I'm sure the warg pack was out looking for fun fights, as most people are, but when you encounter someone else looking for fun fights, and you treat that with contempt and then hide behind a psuedo-RP excuse, what you get is the people looking for fun fights avoiding you, and then being left with the scraps of players who hide in keeps or behind one-shotters. Then starts the ooc flaming and bashing about people hiding in keeps or behind one-shotters all the while not realising that the situation was initiated by effectively griefing those people who ARE prepared to be aggressive and engage you.

The following situation has happened so many times it's genuinely laughable. My hunter, the single squishiest class, freep or creep, to grace the moors, is always ungrouped. I find myself in 2, 3, 4, 6, 20 v 1 situations ALL the time. I have no escape skills, no emergency skills, nothing. Yet, I'm there, looking for fights, regardless of the numbers, and dying a hell of a lot because of it. So what do you suppose happens when my hunter finds himself in the middle of a 2 or 3 or 6 or 20 v 1? Pretty much the same thing. The one person I'm attacking will hips, sprint, burrow, pop moving target, uruk heal, ANYTHING to protect there precious rating, even though they are more often than not getting healed and bubbled. That's right, they are getting heals, bubbles, and all sorts of group support, and yet, because of the possibility of maybe going below half health, they will do anything, and pop anything to avoid it. It's hilarious. Protect your precious stars little creepies, because your ego's and dignity takes a battering everytime you do something like that. I mean, I could maybe understand it vs. a champ or a guard or a mini or something, that might take slightly longer than 5s to kill, and may be able to do the 10-20k damage necessary to maybe get a kill, in that time, but a hunter, the single most unthreatening class ever when outnumbered, the single class that is NOT GETTING AWAY no matter what*, there is going to be juicy infamy for all regardless. Like I said, it's laughable.

*(Yes, technically I, as a hobbit hunter, have flop/df as a tool to get away when being ganked. Flop is ONE HOUR cooldown and it is by no means guaranteed to get df off when I rise. In fact, there is a mechanic which should ensure that I NEVER get it off, and the fact that I do sometimes is a failure on part of the creeps camping my flop and thus deserve no infamy anyway)

Now, this may fall on unsympathetic ears. I'm sure many of the responses will be to the effect of "deal with it" or the like, and, considering I keep coming back for more, even when faced with such cheap tactics and behaviour, should indicate that I do deal with it and when it gets to me, I just log.

But here is another example which you may feel differently about. I'm sure he won't mind me mentioning his name, as I think it's quite important for the context. Also, I'm quite aware of peoples opinions on fightclubs, this was not that, no need to get into a hiss about it.

Yesterday, I rode by a 1v1 between Jetsu and Burglartarget. I stayed mounted and watched. It was pretty even when I got there, although Jetsu was pretty much on his last legs with regards to power, and it was only a matter of time. Yet, the fight went on a minute or two, a champ rode up, saw the fight, saw me, and stood and watched. A couple of wargs unstealthed and sat and watched, a reaver came by, and watched. BT eventually won the fight. He healed up, the champ who was there jumped up and down and they begun to fight. The champ did pretty well and got BT down to about 3k health, but eventually lost. Then, just as BT was about to start healing back up, a burg (again, no names), popped out, and tried to gank him. I smirked. BT is a great player and he told me after he supposed that burg needed a headstart. BT fought back, and after some time, his health was at about 10k, and the burg was below 1k. I'll give you one guess what happened next. That's right, the burg hips'd. Pretty cheap huh? You come in, looking for easy, cheap renown, and yet, as soon as it becomes apparent that you might be in danger of losing, buh bye. My only surprise was that he left it so late to hips. I mean, it was quite obvious from the way the fight was going that he simply wasn't going to hit hard enough to trouble BT, so he was going to lose no matter what. Why waste everyones time? Anyway, that's an aside. The main point is the cheap playstyle, which, like you and your choice of playstyle, he/she was perfectly welcome to play like that.

For those who were concerned about the potential fightclub scenario unfolding, BT and I went up to candy mountain immediately after this to have our own 1v1 (which he won, but I got him back later behind TR =P). Incidently, as I rode down from GV to find him again for a rematch, I got jumped by a BA, a reaver, a warg and a defiler. I shrugged and targetted the r12 BA, who was being healed by the defiler, and to my {non}surprise, he had hit moving target and had backed into tr npc's. Ironic. I call someone out in freep ooc for being cheap, then a few minutes later, I'm on the receiving end myself. C'est la vie....

Anyway, this has become a bit of a long post with big paragraphs so I'm sure most people have just skimmed through it. If you read it all, thank you. There's not really a summary apart from the first thing I said, play how you like, but don't expect not to be called out when you play cheaply.

Last point, I know all of this happens by both freeps and creeps, but as a mainly freep, I experience it from creeps, and as a perhaps unwisely aggressive solo freep, I experience it more than the average player. I see freeps doing it to, as I mentioned, and when I see it or experience it, I envisage salivating caricatures, deperate for a drop of cheap, easy, no risk renown/infamy, literally spazzing out when the cheap renown/infamy actually fights back, and I chuckle.

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You are right Wulf, everyone is free to play as they want and to have their opinion as they hold.

My motto is: live and let live or rather Die and let kill,

I am not here to impress anyone, if I or anyone else come of as a cheap player to someone, I dont want to be too worried about it. There are many options, they can either defeat us, call us out, ignore us etc. whatever they wish to do. What a freep call out in their ooc is not my business to know (hell, even some of them tried to send tells but I just /ignore them not because I cant take criticism but because I wholly believe that its not possible for a freep to communicate with a creep.) But then what we do in our ooc is none of their business either!! But again, I cant stop what anyone does, all I want is to not be judged and expected to act in a certain way just because thats how that person likes to play.

I had lots of issues with the way people played when I started playing (zergs, freep OPness, trolls, blame games, lack of grouping on creep side etc. ), but nothing bothers me much now, I just try to adjust and adapt. If something does start bothering, I try to find a solution for that on the creep side, if thats not possible, I quest (since thats the only pve for me, I dont freep) or stay in grams and chat with my friends to just pass my time reserved for entertainment, and if that is also not very pleasing, then I log out. But I dont go on and tell other people they are cheap, mean, or dont know how to play.

I am a mature person with my own ways of doing things, and I do things of kindness and friendliness to people randomly or to those I know. I fight with my very good couple of friends when they are on their freep and while I face them, I target them, fight them and jump up and down all the time just to show them I acknowledge their presence.

I understand that not all times are for being aggressive, mean and hostile, and I have done lots of partying/fireworks/emotes/dancing etc with people from opposite side. but I am really not a fan of conscious effort to impress freeps by my 1v1 skills and satisfy anyone's expectation of how to play. There are certain players (freep/creep alike) who are genuinely good at solo play, but not everyone can and has to be in that category.

On a lighter note: I say its the tactics of them freeps to breed this false feeling of pride in us by brain-washing our ranked forces to go into the wilderness by themselves and duel with them in order to prove their worth. Its called divide and conquer !!!! dont fall for that , maggots :P

Originally Posted by Lady_Ash

whats wrong with kiting? if you are not kited, you will get the kill on anything you target, cc is your main ability and to avoid that, one has to get away from you. Who enjoys being grey barred? As a creep, its my foremost task to avoid renown to any freep. I dont play the 'honorable knight' I am a mindless animal when on my warg. I act on animal-instinct.

you have put yourself in a group v 1 situation and going to die, why should I or anyone else give you any grace renown if you can be killed before that?

And that IS my playstyle and I dont care what anyone think about it (anymore), if you hate it or me, then do whatever you want to me in the game, dont expect a solution to that on the forums.

In response to: Are you ppl really here to pvp?

what is your definition of pvp anyways? P = player , v = vs , p = player, and thats all i see, IT IS A pvp, you are a player, all those 6 including ratdeath and garny are players, and they are fighting vs each other. isnt that PVP?

thats the beauty (or call it whatever ironic term you like) of pvp that it cannot be standardized, the unpredictability of it is what makes people so interested in it. Its the need to adjust to the ever changing strategies, tactics, situations on the field that makes it PVP. If it was always known what odds you were facing or how the other side was going to turn up around the corner, it would be just another of those highly defined, challenging but still known-strategy instances which all of the freeps play every day. So get over it, anything which happens in the moors among freeps and creeps IS PVP, no matter if you like it or not.

If you really believe in this...I don't even have words to describe you, wait I actually do but I don't feel like getting banned.

Your the reason I'm happy the garnival roflstomps creeps, tbh it's well deserved because of players like you and others who make 24 man raids to kill solos all day ( yes I know afew freep leaders do this sometimes too but they get mopped up on a weekly basis anyway and there is nothing we can do about them until they decide to go play their rank 10-13 war leader on brandy wine)


If that's the case everyone should stop caring for killing the opponent rather than find everyway possible to deny him everything in game such as renown/infamy.
I'll start star hugging immediately

Best congrats thread ever!!!!

Congrats Konfident! I've haven't fought you much but if you can make this many people go crazy in the forums you must be doing something right.

I'll be holding my breath for the rank 13 post.

Happy hunting,
Webferth

Grats konf

Epic grats thread

Ditto that Plok! I saw all that text and thought oh no...Luc chimed in!

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I was reading the thread, an' I came to a post that had lots of words, an' it looks like a newspaper or magazine, an I dun like newspapers or Magazines, so I grabbed the monitor in my maw and shook it real hard, like a toy poodle with a squeaky toy, an' now it's broked.

You owe me one monitor.. plus compensation for me having to type this much. You have any idea how hard it is to hit backspace with paws this size?

Bast

I tried to give Wulfram rep just because I used my mouse scroll three times to get beyond his post. Apparently I give him too much rep and must spread it around.


See Hithy... Turbine tells me to spread stuff around... See you soon pumpkin.

And to comment on Cynthri's post... Yes you are a noob, but for other reasons, I don't hate any freeps, I dislike 1 freep, because he is a dickfarm. Freeps are cool, espcially when they die.

Cynthri is often cool

Congratulations Konfident.

Grats Konfident, I see you've gotten some "loving" on your thread. R12 is a feat can't argue that.

'Grats on the rank, Konfident.

Great job Konfident! I remember when we both started out.

Přípitek Konfident!