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    How much are Battlemounts like LIs?

    LIs really seem to be a fun-drainer for this game (they certainly are for me). Building up a new LI every few levels, just to replace it for a 2nd ager, then a 1st ager, then to start over again with each expansion... very un-legendary. Grinding is one thing. If you can play the game and get your grinding done with a little extra attention and focus, great! Having your grinding reset to zero again and again is just... not fun.

    Now Turbine says we'll get to grow our horses for mounted combat... Are we going to get the same treatement for the horses as we did for our weapons and class item LIs?

    I've looked around, but haven't seen much on this topic. Personally, I don't think I could stomach a second, re-labled LI system.

    Any word from on-high would be appreciated. :-)

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    We have absolutely no idea at the moment, though that is probably more worriesome in itself with the release being like 3 months away with open beta that should start in a month or so.

    In any case, from what little has been released so far, I think WarSteeds would be more like the Skirmish Soldiers than the mess that is the LI system. At least we won't be changing horses every couple of levels or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LelqTian View Post
    We have absolutely no idea at the moment, though that is probably more worriesome in itself with the release being like 3 months away with open beta that should start in a month or so.
    Actually, it's in two months and I wouldn't be surprised if Beta hadn't started already seeing as beta starting was classified as incredisoon a couple of weeks ago. On a sidenote, beta is invite only

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    Well, no one (except Turbine) knows, but if I were to guess, I'd say that the warmounts will be more like Skirmish soldiers, then LI's, but not exactly like them

    Perhaps a combination of the two, since Skirmish buddues don't exactly 'Level Up' like LI's do, but the Warmounts are suppose to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fralin View Post
    Actually, it's in two months and I wouldn't be surprised if Beta hadn't started already seeing as beta starting was classified as incredisoon a couple of weeks ago. On a sidenote, beta is invite only
    Sapience indcated in another thread that they would let everyone know when the beta has started, and the players that are invited to the beta would get an email. I'm kninda hoping it will start this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LelqTian View Post
    We have absolutely no idea at the moment, though that is probably more worriesome in itself with the release being like 3 months away with open beta that should start in a month or so.
    There is no guarantee there will be an open beta. We will have an open beta if Turbine decides that a open beta makes good business sense. Open betas are generally more a ad campaign and hype generator than a serious attempt to find and fix defects.

    Turbine ran a open beta for free to play partially to get folks with no knowledge of Turbine practices, products or Lotro itself. Turbine wanted to know what problems a new arrival was going to run into. Long term players like me would not even notice these issues.

    I think it is pretty clear that a closed beta is under way at this moment because the Bullroarer forums require a special account token to access. There is huge game update available for the Bullroarer client.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ElanMorinTedroni View Post
    Now Turbine says we'll get to grow our horses for mounted combat... Are we going to get the same treatement for the horses as we did for our weapons and class item LIs?
    It's going to be heartbreaking to take ol' Silver to the glue factory every five levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty View Post

    I think it is pretty clear that a closed beta is under way at this moment because the Bullroarer forums require a special account token to access. There is huge game update available for the Bullroarer client.
    Sapience has stated they will announce the launch of the beta. This is likely an even more limited access program at the moment than a normal beta would imply, or they have changed their mind and aren't announcing the start of the beta. Given that I have not seen any slips as to indicate users who are involved in testing and that on average users are as likely to follow directions as in other betas, I must assume something else is taking place.

    At what point they will open it up to more people, no clue. Hopefully they'll open it up for a wider-test sooner than later, (the better to provide feedback and find and squash bugs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbadgerbrock View Post
    It's going to be heartbreaking to take ol' Silver to the glue factory every five levels.
    Yes! That's exactly what I'm afraid of!

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    If I had to guess, I'd bet that war-steeds will be like a combination of skirmish soliders (for managing appearances and traits) and LIs (for improving stats and skills).

    I wouldn't be surprised if this resulted in a third new type of equippable LI for level 75+ players.
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    And Turbine has managed to confirm both my hopes and my fears all at the same time.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/07...-mounted-comb/

    We get one horse that we can trait up just like our toons, and a 3rd LI slot (presumably for a Legendary Saddle or somesuch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbadgerbrock View Post
    It's going to be heartbreaking to take ol' Silver to the glue factory every five levels.
    Ouch. That thought hadn't crossed my mind.

    That is so funny. +rep

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    Turbine,

    Another LI slot? REALLY?
    Unless RoR comes with a significant streamlining of the LI system, I predict a metric shipload of hate mail over increasing the LI grind by 50%

    This is stupidity

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    Don't see what all the fuss is about. It's easy enough to get a perfect or near perfect second age LI and then you're basically set till the next expansion. Unlike jewelry/armor which you have to continually replace as you find better drops.

    I could see your complaint being valid 3 years ago when Moria was new and 95% of all LI's were garbage only you didn't know that till you spent 2-3 weeks leveling it. That was a hassle. LI's today are easier then the rest of our gear to get to an acceptable quality.

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    Well from what we saw in the Massive article they are alot more like soldiers than LIs. Which is what I was expecting all along.

    I hope for a lot more options than the soldiers have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgs81 View Post
    Don't see what all the fuss is about. It's easy enough to get a perfect or near perfect second age LI and then you're basically set till the next expansion. Unlike jewelry/armor which you have to continually replace as you find better drops.

    I could see your complaint being valid 3 years ago when Moria was new and 95% of all LI's were garbage only you didn't know that till you spent 2-3 weeks leveling it. That was a hassle. LI's today are easier then the rest of our gear to get to an acceptable quality.
    because it's another 20'ish empowerent scrolls times the number of items (including age upgrades) times the number of alts.
    Huge mark grind they just increased by 50% or so.

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