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    Fate?

    Hey fellow wardens...

    was wondering if I'd be better off using the legacy for power regen on my javelin; or just placing a Fate stat legacy in its place?
    which would you all recommend?

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    You'd get more ICPR out of the ICPR legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omen_Kaizer View Post
    You'd get more ICPR out of the ICPR legacy.
    Right, but both are useless. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethounet View Post
    Right, but both are useless. ^^
    Certainly not useless. More ICPR is fewer DbD's. Fewer DbD's is more self-heals/self-buffs.

    But yeah, I more highly value things other than ICPR on my jav.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omen_Kaizer View Post
    Certainly not useless. More ICPR is fewer DbD's. Fewer DbD's is more self-heals/self-buffs.

    But yeah, I more highly value things other than ICPR on my jav.
    DbD ? Oh yeah ! Useless too ! ^^
    In hard instances, the captain's rallying cry maintain your power at the max, in easy content, you don't have to use buffs anyway, so you can use DbD if you realy have to.

    My warden's stats : 1028icpr in determination and 1691 max power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethounet View Post
    DbD ? Oh yeah ! Useless too ! ^^
    Wow you just scored a bunch of myopathy points there

    You ever heard of Reck-built Wardens? They have a much greater need for ICPR than wardens do in Det. Plus, solo Wardens benefit a lot from the ICPR legacy in all stances.

    We do do more than just hold aggro for group instances. What do you think we are, Guardians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by droid View Post
    We do do more than just hold aggro for group instances. What do you think we are, Guardians?
    hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethounet View Post
    DbD ? Oh yeah ! Useless too ! ^^
    In hard instances, the captain's rallying cry maintain your power at the max, in easy content, you don't have to use buffs anyway, so you can use DbD if you realy have to.

    My warden's stats : 1028icpr in determination and 1691 max power.
    Why do you only have 1691 power? I mean really, you claim DbD is useless but have no power do you have a LM following you around or something? The other thing is that DbD may seem less effective to you then the rest of us because it restores a percentage of total power and some of us are getting twice as much back per use.

    To answer the original question I would go with the fate if those are the only options since the icpr difference is really sort of negligible in the grand scheme and when compared to how much we already have. Very few wardens can be played properly and rely on icpr solely for power restoration requiring either a LM or DbD to maintain Power and ignore the above quote since I have almost twice his power and alot more ICPR and going full out a captain alone cannot keep me in power in an extended fight.

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    Thanks. Will try it out and see how it goes

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    I agree with all of you here that say that pumping fate for its icpr is almost useless asthe increase per fate point is negligible. Not so sure though that ICPR legacy is , as some of you say, "completely useless". It is not the best legacy out there, that I agree, I probably prefer pretty much any other major legacy over icpr, even icmr is better anyways. Yes, Dbtd is our bread and butter when it comes to power restore, but to go as far as to say that icpr is utterly useless I think its taking it too far.

    Anywya, here's another question regarding fate. It's clear to me that stacking fate for icpr is useless, but how about stacking it for tactical crit? If there's soemthing that wardens lack is tactical crit. Improving tactical crit will have two , VERY USEFUL, effects: it will make our self healing and conviction pulses crit for more healing, and our warden taunts/fist gambits that rely on tactical damage will also crit for more damage.

    So, waht are your opinions on getting fate for the crits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherSunrider View Post
    So, waht are your opinions on getting fate for the crits?
    Like someone just pointed out in the other thread, there's only Crit now, its the same for Phys and for Tact.

    Plus, Fate doesnt improve crit that much. You'd be better stacking Agi for the same crit bonus, plus to-hit and Parry/Evade.
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