You don't need to lead a raid on creepside to state the obvious.
You've not read his previous posts. He was bashing Mere on his way of leading and then proceeded to say that he's only been playing creepside since RoI and that he's never lead a raid, but yet he bashes Mere who has been leading since the beginning and hides behind an anonymous name. I find it quite shady. It's almost like he's afraid to show who he is unlike the rest of us who DO post on our real name.
You've not read his previous posts. He was bashing Mere on his way of leading and then proceeded to say that he's only been playing creepside since RoI and that he's never lead a raid, but yet he bashes Mere who has been leading since the beginning and hides behind an anonymous name. I find it quite shady. It's almost like he's afraid to show who he is unlike the rest of us who DO post on our real name.
Or maybe he just wants to express his thoughts without getting attacked by a particular clique of players or ruining any positive rep he has on creepside?
Or maybe he just wants to express his thoughts without getting attacked by a particular clique of players or ruining any positive rep he has on creepside?
Like I said. He's afraid and thus, hides behind an anon name. Sigh.
He sounds to me like one of the most unbiased voices of reason this server has. The reason you creeps don't like it is because you feel betrayed because he plays your side, but isn't oblivious to what actually happens.
I find it highly amusing he is calling me out for lying when his post is nothing but a tissue of lies. Arrik and I never called for more creeps until after Yelk and Snow had joined the fight, and when we were waiting for them in TA.
So either ColourSpecs is trying to belittle our efforts by making us look like mass zergers because he's mad, or he knew nothing about that night because his warg was too busy failing to kill solos.
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He sounds to me like one of the most unbiased voices of reason this server has. The reason you creeps don't like it is because you feel betrayed because he plays your side, but isn't oblivious to what actually happens.
A hardcore freep hunter that stopped playing in RoI and made a warg that hates every creep? Very unbiased, no wonder your posts are as such too.
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Like I said. He's afraid and thus, hides behind an anon name. Sigh.
I think Arno's point is that if you, or anyone else found out who ColorSpecs was, he would probably recieve more grief on the forums and even in game. That's something I think most of us want to avoid.
Everyone should be entitled to their opinion. If they don't like someone... fine. Why the need for a 2 page thread of complete nonsense?
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Not that I agree wit everything colorspecs has written, so what if he skipped the creep tutorial that says ... complain about everything, even if you dont agree, do as others do OR ELSE!
Everyone always throws out the phrases ... O oO oo take off your "whatever side you on" goggles. Well here's someone who is playing one side and seems capable of forming a thought on their own w/o any so called "goggles" on and now they're wrong too lol.
Big deal ... someone disagrees wit the majority .... STRING EM UP! haha ... and if I were them I wouldnt let it be known who I was either, given how creepside tends to "blacklist" ppl for whatever reasons. Just b/c u play a certain side, its not written in stone u have to agree w/ everything everyone on that side says or does. Most ppl dont, but most choose to not say anything. The ones that do either .... have no fear of repraisale from their side, truely dont care about being "liked ina video game", or just have big mouths (see Aurn, haha).
Not eveyrone is gonna fall under those catagories though, so if they choose to speak out in their own way ... big deal, if you dont agree just say so. But when you do i'd say try n form some actual thoughts n facts ... not just, oh U dummy you're wrong cause I said so.
First of all I would love to thank you for bringing me into these forums for no reason, really I am grateful.
Second you have called yourself 'fail' on many occasions. I don't care that you are not good, but since you are stirring the pot here you kind of threw out all of your credibility. If you can't even play a creep class that probably has it the best out here solo then what would you know about raid v raid or how it works.
I absolutely called out the freeps in ooc at the bv fight and the ta fight. 44 freeps on track from two different wargs that i trust. I was hoping that would sway things but it did not even come close. Ta was just a lag fest and was not even really a fight, some of the freeps from bv did not show up. How am I supposed to know that? They just got done killing my raid twice open field, why wouldn't they push a keep together?
Yes maybe creeps had just as many (including the raid you were in, which again you called fail). But guess what snow and yelk both had strong groups with heals and plenty of dps. What did we have? Some randoms all on different targets and your 'fail raid' that probably did not kill anything of value if anything at all.
So you are saying the freeps would not converge as they do (which they have been doing for a long time) if i did not call all creeps out in ooc. Because I'm sure every creep listens to me. They want renown and they have 6 man groups with huge killing power, i doubt they want solos, i doubt they even want creep groups. They wanna kill the raid. Sure if it was sunny happy perfect moors there would be multiple groups running around at all times, this is rarely the case.
Since you are a coach (I think thats what you said) please do this for me
Coach me how to lead a better craid
This is no insult but a challenge. Unlike many freeps think I don't think I am some godly beast leader, there is always more to learn so please teach me something useful so i don't need ooc to kill a force larger than mine on the under powered side.
Again, I log on to have fun and zerging everything into the ground entertains me for a very short time, but getting destroyed isn't exactly fun either so I do what I must to win, especially if we have lost many in a row. People who raid with me and even freeps that remember me know this. Just shaved the beard and jumped into a pit of lava guys...same person lol.
DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA
You just hit the nail on the head, Arrik.
I love it how he calls creeps all sorts of names too. ~_~.
This is at an all time stupid for you, zergmouth. I mean, you've always been stupid,
but couldn't because you, waaaaaaaay to chickensh*t as we all know to face them
that you failures couldn't handle on your own.
You bitches throw chum in the water and then cry because there's too many sharks for you to go swimming.
If you're going to have these sort of "debates" with people, at least have the decency to not resort to childish name calling such as these. It's obvious you have a very strong hate towards Spinnre, as do most freeps, but you should perhaps, keep it out of your posts when you're trying to get a point across.
I love it how he calls creeps all sorts of names too. ~_~.
If you're going to have these sort of "debates" with people, at least have the decency to not resort to childish name calling such as these. It's obvious you have a very strong hate towards Spinnre, as do most freeps, but you should perhaps, keep it out of your posts when you're trying to get a point across.
But he's one of the most unbiased voices of reason this server has. Penionn said so!
I'm 99% certain that it is not Baldrmac, if it was the posts would have had a lot more "..." (without quotes) replies.
If you've spoken to Baldrmac you know what I mean.
That was amusing, but if you want "intellectual discussions" on the internet... a video game forum probably isn't the best place to look for them.
I would recommend; Your friends on Facebook, your friends in Vent/TS3/Mumble/Whatever-you-use or a world News forum or some sort of political group Forum.
However if you want an "intellectual discussion" ABOUT the video game... well, I mean I really don't know what to say here - good luck I guess.
I say this because, unless you're talking to someone who agrees with you, it will probably just end up in an argument (this thread being proof). If it doesn't; /salute.
In the words of Ben Croshaw;
"But you know how it is; Cows go "Moo!", Dogs go "Woof!" and MMO players go "The PvP is unbalanced."
On another note; I find this thread entertaining and amusing - so please continue; however just a note for all parties: Please limit strawman arguments and don't get yourself banned.
That is all, thank you.
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Second you have called yourself 'fail' on many occasions. I don't care that you are not good, but since you are stirring the pot here you kind of threw out all of your credibility. If you can't even play a creep class that probably has it the best out here solo then what would you know about raid v raid or how it works.
What does this have to do anything with credibility? You don't need to be a pro at The Lord of the Rings Online to form an unbiased personal opinion. It's not like RvR is hard or complicated.
Let me guess...it's the heat right? or perhaps the onset of cabin fever? or both? same map, same lag...i don't get it. Why is everyone so upset? You know what to expect people!
(some people need to take a page out of Jmez's book, even if he is from jersey).
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This thread is dumb.
Couldn't agree more.
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What does this have to do anything with credibility? You don't need to be a pro at The Lord of the Rings Online to form an unbiased personal opinion. It's not like RvR is hard or complicated.
This thread is dumb.
O I don't know I guess I think that you should be educated and have some experience on the subject before you just jump into it. I don't know maybe been in that persons shoes once in awhile etc...
And swearing and calling people out is a pretty great way to get your point across, very unbiased as well
What are you trying to prove with these pictures? All I see here is a raid of freeps that seems to be smaller then the creep raid you're in and they are trying to get a fight with you open field. So what if it's near TA? I doubt Snowlock fought in NPCs in either of those screenshots.
O I don't know I guess I think that you should be educated and have some experience on the subject before you just jump into it. I don't know maybe been in that persons shoes once in awhile etc...
And swearing and calling people out is a pretty great way to get your point across, very unbiased as well
Educated? That's what I go to classes for, not logging onto lotro.
Clearly from his posts he's experienced enough to form his own opinion. God forbid someone disagrees with you.
Calling him out for language to get a point across? I have been in your raids before.
Not calling you out bro but I just don't see where this thread is going.
Well I see BW is still the same. Just with a few new soapbox heralds.
Arguements the same though. But this xpac the creeps got it bad again.
Miss you guys, hope to see ya in gw2.
Arrik I love your beard still.
Jmez .... why are you not r15?
Evil, why haven't you called?
Mere we need another good arguement.
/salute
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Arno-just defending myself vs someone I don't even know or have heard of. Swearing with friends in a raid is one thing, coming on these dumb forums and trying to actually prove a point like that is not really how you do it though lol...and I would have said this thread is going nowhere but scuff said something so its good now
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The one thing I really never understood about this server is the raids, alot of them have legitimately good players that could do better minus about 12 people. It doesn't really compute, even now. Point farms > PvP seems to be the attitude.
Hmmm, well here I was planning an epic response to all of the various discussions but looks like those discussions never happened. So I'll just go with summing up the point I was trying to get across.
The point is this, everything you do in an open world pvp area has consequences and that’s what this all boils down to: Cause & Effect.
Arrik, this has nothing to do with your capabilities as a leader nor mine as a player (which you have told me multiple times you hold in high esteem.) It has to do with actions & consequences.
Action: All creeps to “X”.
Consequence: Massive lag.
That is it, and that’s the extent of it.
All I really have to say anymore after this thread was deconstructed is if you agree that a raid of creeps cannot beat a raid of freeps that are well lead, geared, skilled and balanced; like those the Three Hunter Kings are capable of forming – Jmez, Snowlock and Yelk, all Fraid leaders, all kin leaders, all hunters; kinda cool – then my question is:
What the hell are you forming a raid for? Last four days in a row at different times I’ve seen the same thing, THK solo or small grouped and craid is formed. One of the Hunters forms a raid in return and stomps the craid. Not because of skill so much. But because creep healing is underpowered. You know this, I know this, everyone but the most biased knows this. So why do it?
LOL! If you are a high school football team, and you get to play football against Peyton Manning, you don’t get your full team against him and tackle him over and over until he gets pissed off because then he’s going to get his team together and stomp your faces in.
Actions & Consequences.
No, I’m not saying that any of the Hunters are Peyton Manning compared to you, Arrik nor that your craid is amateurish. I’m just saying if you will agree that due to the healing imbalance especially, a craid cannot beat a fraid, then if you have any common sense then why on earth would you create something that will lead to your own demise?
Contrary to the opinion of the liars and whiners, these guys are not running around in raids from the jump. They’re not Voa or Yand spamming OOC the minute they get in the zone for as many people to join them as possible. So why are you? You’re no craven like our 8 legged fleer. You’re willing to take a wipe or two and not log off in tears.
Actions & Consequences.
Sunday.
I’ve said before, I’ve become a fan of these Iron Rangers and their leader Snowlock. They’re interesting to me. They do things differently than any other leader on Brandy, sometimes. So a lot of my game time has been spent just following them around. I track one, try to keep my distance and just see what kind of trouble these guys get into. And I did it pretty much all Sunday.
Soleus was alternating between full on lies about Sunday and telling half truths. Do you want to tell the whole truth Arrik? Or shall I? I’ll leave it to you to respond. But I’d be careful because if you omit some key moments from either of the times you two had raids going I’m going to roflstomp you pubically.
But again, the gist of it was, Snowlock was small grouped, you formed a raid against him. He formed a raid and stomped you. Actions & Consequences.
Why didn’t you just pull in enough to be competitive? Why go whole hog? Another way of putting it is, lets say you had 24 small apples and he had 24 large apples and you were going to try and balance them on a teeter-totter. Now, do you go all 24 apples on each end initially? Nope, obviously the larger apples are heavier, you have no more to add to balance them out and up you go. However, if he starts out with 6 apples, and you start out with 6 apples, and he stays with six as you add one or two more at time to make the teeter-totter balance then you can achieve that balance! What a concept!
They’ve said on these forums multiple times they don’t grow without need. Even soleus amongst his lies admitted they stayed at 18 against your 24 plus goldtags. So why not try to match them instead of set yourself on a course to get beaten or create a massive lag fest for everyone?
Scared? Maybe. I watched 5 of these IR roll over an 8-man Ofs small group one satruday morning like they weren’t even there. But that’s what these guys do I think, it’s their jam, what they know. They’re from a small server, right? Maybe they couldn’t raid as much so they have more practice in small groups than we do. But that’s not to say we couldn’t get there.
I don’t know. You asked for my advice and you have it.
Color to even suggest Arrik is scared just means you plain dont know him man. i've raided enough with him both sides to know he has more balls than any other fraid or craid leader ( no offense meant to any other leaders)
and his charges sometimes border on suicidal and we somehow pull through.
also i am sure IR are a good bunch of lads i just wish they used TAB more often. sitting behind trees and rocks on my creep while they pass by 10 meters away is sad. i know they dont see me because if they did id get zerged 100%.
i also remember this one time snowlock was killed in front of oc by craid drive by and he didnt get a bubble that could have saved him. was it on cooldown? possibly. but he didnt get a single heal. so yeah being form a smaller server man mean heal reaction time is slow idk what kinda creeps play there.
oh and you know apart from those hardcore specialists from leithani who specialise in getting stomped rvr wise i would rate snows raids just above them. because he has high rank people with gear and all, but poor focus fire.
and a vag for not pushing a craid will full fraid. ( seeing as how colo pointed out an imbalance freeps sould win anyway AMIRITE)
oh and this is BW what small grps we talking about? mostly rvr and lots of zerg. dont like it leave.
Color to even suggest Arrik is scared just means you plain dont know him man.
Wrong. I suggested it because he goes to full raid against small group. Which he did. I was there, you weren't. So what you are doing is spouting off a bunch of nonsense for which you don't have direct experience.
Its raid or zerg don't like it leave? Who's rules are those, yours? Where are they written? What about solo'ers how do they fit in?
And Snowlock's raids only slightly above lethiani? Ha. Tell that to Arrik and Meregash. The only thing they have in common is this guy doesn't seem so leet that he won't take them. And he still manages to win with them.
Not tabbing enough? Wait a second on one hand they are fail for zerging and on the other they are fail for not zerging enough? Child please.
As I said before the only reason I've found myself defending them is a) because they're interesting and b) because they just do their own thing right in the faces of you leetsies.
and you are probably very new or just like to say things.
i think people called this ""unbiased"" earlier in this thread
i say this because you must be living under a rock not to see BW
pvp is a lot of zerg and big rvr.
as for full raid vs small group if true. welcome to BW.
enjoy your stay
All I really have to say anymore after this thread was deconstructed is if you agree that a raid of creeps cannot beat a raid of freeps that are well lead, geared, skilled and balanced; like those the Three Hunter Kings are capable of forming – Jmez, Snowlock and Yelk, all Fraid leaders, all kin leaders, all hunters; kinda cool – then my question is:
What the hell are you forming a raid for? Last four days in a row at different times I’ve seen the same thing, THK solo or small grouped and craid is formed. One of the Hunters forms a raid in return and stomps the craid. Not because of skill so much. But because creep healing is underpowered. You know this, I know this, everyone but the most biased knows this. So why do it?
I'm surprised its not obvious. I usually run anywhere from a duo to 6 people. As epic as we are we can't take on 18+, for starters I cant even get any inductions off. lol. If I form 12 they do 24. If I form 24 its all 50 to TA. My only recommendation is to do 6v9 or 24v32, something reasonable or lag is your exponential outcome.
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