Thread: Good 1v1s yesterday.. but a tragic ending.

Yesterday we had a 1v1 session that lasted about 2 hours, fun and renown/infamy for everyone. Thanks to all the freeps that showed up to donate to my infamy count ;P good 1v1s all around. Spiderbyte/Dark Ones I don't approve of your 1v1 zerging ways, even if they are at GTA they are easy to recognize and it's really not that hard to show a little restraint when it comes to 1v1ers. even if we are an obnoxious lot

Originally Posted by BoonerDude

Yesterday we had a 1v1 session that lasted about 2 hours, fun and renown/infamy for everyone. Thanks to all the freeps that showed up to donate to my infamy count ;P good 1v1s all around. Spiderbyte/Dark Ones I don't approve of your 1v1 zerging ways, even if they are at GTA they are easy to recognize and it's really not that hard to show a little restraint when it comes to 1v1ers. even if we are an obnoxious lot

+1 That was a childish attitude. I'm always suspicious when people talk about others in OCC / GLFF, but it seems DO has that fame well earned. And yes, I guess not all the members are the same thing, I'm just talking about DO as a tribe.

Btw, Slashed, you're really good at 1vs1 and a pretty fair player compared with other creeps. Thanks for the fights ^^.

oh so its ok for freeps to zerg 1on1s but not Dark Ones? ok.

Zerging 1v1's is just dumb for anyone to do. But I've never seen freeps form a raid up just to zerg the 1v1s, and then brag about how fun it was... Like Spiderbyte did.

Agreed Slashed - it's bad enough when we have to deal with Valistar on freep side and Dark Ones on creep - I expected better from Spiderbyte. Just a shame that folks feel the need to impose their own values on other people.

You know it is strange all the slack i got before i sad anything in chat channels. Then when i say something I'm bragging.
I always said i don't care that people 1v1 but if you die in and open pvp map don't cry. And 1 question why do i have to play the game your way?

And before i have to here about how bad i am at 1v1s i got a lot of SS of freeps running from me with part moral. But i guess me waiting in a burrow and jumping on you is not a 1v1 because it was not at gta.

Originally Posted by swamp

And before i have to here about how bad i am at 1v1s i got a lot of SS of freeps running from me with part moral. But i guess me waiting in a burrow and jumping on you is not a 1v1 because it was not at gta.

No... It's not a 1v1 if the other person isn't read, it's a gank. When catch a Minstrel riding out of a rez circle without a stance (this should never happen but it does) and "1v1" them, it's a gank, not a 1v1. Btw, I like the pat where you and Ardook tried to "2v1" Jobus last night and FAILED so you used your long burrow. We waited on top of you for however long that skill lasts and when it was up, you had Ardook's warg get their attention while you popped out, ran across the river to OC and then left.

Turrible.

And yet why should i play the game your way?

Originally Posted by swamp

And yet why should i play the game your way?

The more pertinent question is why do we ALL have to play it YOUR way?

Hmm, do i come here complaining how people are playing the game? Take a look see if i have came here and called people out. I have bin called out a few times normally I don't reply but i could not pass this 1 up.

All is fair in love and war, in my own opinion. I've been ganked by freeps at GTA during 1v1. Sure, I was mad, but it's just a game. If there isn't an official rule somewhere saying no ganking, then there's no reason to get all fussed up over it. Creeps gank, freeps gank more, it's not a big deal, it's all part of the game. If you expect to be safe in one area of the pvp zone other than Grams and the freeps equivalent to that, then you're in for a rude awakening. If you wanna do it, do it somewhere many people don't go out of their way to travel to, like goblin camp in isen. QQing about it wont solve anything, I've learned that after my fair share of QQing.

I understand that, and if someone ganks a 1v1 it's noted and we all move on. Forming a raid for the explicit purpose of abusing the trust of those around you is just being a jerk. I don't care if I die in the moors - happens all the time - what I care about is someone being obnoxious and taking advantage of the trust that others have shown him.

Anyway, no big deal - happens all the time - I just expected better from you Spider.

Spider I run away because you aren't worth fighting. I've never yet seen you do anything other than hit trapdoor sanctuary, full heal, then brand, drop spider poo and run away to either map or long burrow. I'm not saying this is bad, it's definitely a good way to get away, but it also means I personally wouldn't bother trying, it's a waste of my time.

As to 1v1s, yes it is an open PvP map. However I did consider you to be above zerging people that are there because of a mutual trust. I'm disappointed.

Originally Posted by Winkey

stuff

you're one of those who have ganked me and tribemates during 1on1s the most....just saying
and no im not pointing fingers, every freep who has responded to this thread has contributed to ganking 1v1s atleast twice or more without reason. each got their own story to explain, whatever. when I arrive with my tribemates or hear about them in chat that they arrive and getting ganked. Davencreep gets ganked a lot, Westmiss, Chefe gets perma ganked for messing up ONE time, I get ganked a lot, Hellswolf..etc many people leave the 1v1 area cause of getting ganked so I dont care what rules you freeps have but get a grip, if you want a private 1v1 location, go to a private location and not a map point.
1v1s are open for everyone not only the elitists!

Originally Posted by BoonerDude

Yesterday we had a 1v1 session that lasted about 2 hours, fun and renown/infamy for everyone. Thanks to all the freeps that showed up to donate to my infamy count ;P good 1v1s all around. Spiderbyte/Dark Ones I don't approve of your 1v1 zerging ways, even if they are at GTA they are easy to recognize and it's really not that hard to show a little restraint when it comes to 1v1ers. even if we are an obnoxious lot

Yeah great 1 on ones that day i had a blast and thats the most important thing in the moors is to have fun. I did not appericate sneak attacks before a 1 on 1 battle starts by 2(not at the same time) creeps wich i forgot there names. and a warg creep that uses hisps and a warg creep that used sprint in a 1 on 1. other than that it was fun. and slahsed is a honorable creep when it comes to 1 on 1's i rely did not think i lasted several minutes with slashed i think i had his health down to 2000 idk if i did or not cause i was concentraiting on the battle. and also it was my first time defeating a warg creep and a spider creep in a 1 on 1 all by myself and im a captain. i rely got to think of strategies for defiliers though and to counter a warg creeps temp stun attack perhaps i should have gotten a insignia as a counter measure against wargs.

to conclude this reply. i rely had alot of fun. alot of you all are honorable and hope to see you all in the battlefield tommorow. and also sorry for my pet i did not know he would attack someone that i did not order him to attack a person. and to me a captain should not get allowed to have a herald in a 1 on 1 cause its like having a second person and its supposed to be a 1 on 1 i have no problems with capains using banners in a 1 on 1 but not heralds

I like 1v1s as much as the next guy but if one side has a group/raid of people out looking for some action, you can't really expect them to leave a bunch of people alone to do 1v1s. I probably wouldn't. Standing right at gta makes you a pretty easy target after all. You could at least go to candy mountain or something and make it a bit harder for them to find you.

Originally Posted by usernamealreadyinuse

I like 1v1s as much as the next guy but if one side has a group/raid of people out looking for some action, you can't really expect them to leave a bunch of people alone to do 1v1s. I probably wouldn't. Standing right at gta makes you a pretty easy target after all. You could at least go to candy mountain or something and make it a bit harder for them to find you.

ohhhh ok you got a point there. perhaps i should have did a candy mountain im still learning things in the moors believe me its looks like alot to learn. and thanks alot dude your getting me in the mood for some candy lol im Joking

Originally Posted by mmdur1

I understand that, and if someone ganks a 1v1 it's noted and we all move on. Forming a raid for the explicit purpose of abusing the trust of those around you is just being a jerk. I don't care if I die in the moors - happens all the time - what I care about is someone being obnoxious and taking advantage of the trust that others have shown him.

Anyway, no big deal - happens all the time - I just expected better from you Spider.

I'm not saying he did or didn't do that, since I wasn't on, but out of the tons of times I've raided with Spider, I've never known him to form a raid to zerg people during 1v1. We have killed people at GTA when we've found them, but both sides are guilty of this. If there is no raid or group to oppose the creep raid, he usually either waits ten minutes and or disbands or hands the button over and leaves to do his own thing. I find it more likely he was keep flipping or something and y'all were just some tasty morsels in his path. But as I said, I wasn't there, so I don't know the full story of what happened or what was happening at the time and before it.

Originally Posted by usernamealreadyinuse

I like 1v1s as much as the next guy but if one side has a group/raid of people out looking for some action, you can't really expect them to leave a bunch of people alone to do 1v1s. I probably wouldn't. Standing right at gta makes you a pretty easy target after all. You could at least go to candy mountain or something and make it a bit harder for them to find you.

+rep, even though I'm not entirely sure with the candy mountain part. Still well said, and funny. Too bad freeps forgot to mount their buffalos when they saw the creep raid coming.

Originally Posted by usernamealreadyinuse

I like 1v1s as much as the next guy but if one side has a group/raid of people out looking for some action, you can't really expect them to leave a bunch of people alone to do 1v1s. I probably wouldn't. Standing right at gta makes you a pretty easy target after all. You could at least go to candy mountain or something and make it a bit harder for them to find you.

Yeah but the night in question, certain creeps formed a raid for the express purpose of zerging the 1v1s at GTA because they did not feel 1v1s should be happening.

Originally Posted by Witch0King

Chefe gets perma ganked for messing up ONE time

Don't know about ONE time Tingur, he seems to not understand about making sure his opponent actually wants to fight him and is ready to begin. Last week twice in a row he started attacking me when I was about to start fighting someone else. That's better than ninjaing a kill on someone at low health after fighting someone else, or joining in on a fight in progress, but it was still annoying because I had to kill him twice before I could get to the fight I had actually been wanting to do.

Anyway, I wasn't there at this particular occasion, but grouping up for the specific purpose of annoying people who are just hanging out sparring is lame.

Originally Posted by Hethyba

Don't know about ONE time Tingur

well if he does that just kill him over and over to he learns to stop

Originally Posted by Daliane

Btw, Slashed, you're really good at 1vs1 and a pretty fair player compared with other creeps. Thanks for the fights ^^.

He still pops stun pots like a noob :P. But yeah, he is ight.

Originally Posted by DJ1125

Zerging 1v1's is just dumb for anyone to do. But I've never seen freeps form a raid up just to zerg the 1v1s, and then brag about how fun it was... Like Spiderbyte did.

Yes, let me give u an apparent POTHEAD'S analysis Ker :P...

MOST of dark ones is responsible of zerging 1v1s (mainly due to being brainwashed by Glee), a few of them like Wolfgash are respectable tho and don't all abide by his code. That's y whenever I refer to Dark ones, I say MOST to be specific, cuz not ALL of them are cowardly, mindless zerglings that can't even help someone in a 2v1 if it's just 1 of them to make it a nice, fair 2v2 (the person that sees this knows who I'm talking about :P). Freeps led by Valistar are usually responsible for this, too, but it's mainly Valistar's moronic intentions other than the mostly innocent or deluded freeps behind zerging them. Both sides can be responsible obviously, and it's usually those 2 groups in particular.

Anyway, it's a shame they were zerged. I was on vacation so I was not present for this. Like I said before, I don't mind 1v1s accidentally being zerged, but when you do them intentionally is when I le sigh. There is plenty of people to fight on the map other than zerg 1v1ers. I really hope Spiderbyte wasn't behind any zerging intentionally of 1v1s; I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as I generally have respected him.

I'd like to add my 2 cents to this conversation if I could.....

For those saying go somewhere other than GTA for 1vs.......as far as i know, GTA is the place of choice for 1vs for the majority of people that like to do so on this server......it is known, and should be respected.

When a person, or group, choses to violate that trust and show no honor, blatantly in the face of the server majority, they should expect to be called out, and the majority should see to it that they get zerged themselves at any/every given opportunity, at the very least until they repent their ways.

I would like to take this opportunity to note that it's not just Spidey; Vic and co, Tarvin and co, obviously Glee/Grogog and co., they're all guilty of zerging 1vs whenever they feel justified or otherwise just want to act like nubs. Yet some of the community then turn a blind eye, and say..."well, they didn't zerg ME, so I don't mind", which simply encourages that continued behavior, and makes them half as culpable after the fact, imho. Whether it's a group, or a single player, zerging or ganking people at 1v's is weak and lame. I'll also throw in cowardly and childish.

To that end, i'd just like to give fair warning....if I happen by GTA, and someone has chosen to 1v one of these offenders, (I don't know why they would chose to 1v someone who has shown they have little honor, unless maybe they aren't aware)...please don't take offense as I will kill them with extreme prejudice. Additionaly, please don't interfere or "save" them. Turn about is most assuredly fair play.

Again, my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by Althorion

I'd like to add my 2 cents to this conversation if I could.....

For those saying go somewhere other than GTA for 1vs.......as far as i know, GTA is the place of choice for 1vs for the majority of people that like to do so on this server......it is known, and should be respected.

When a person, or group, choses to violate that trust and show no honor, blatantly in the face of the server majority, they should expect to be called out, and the majority should see to it that they get zerged themselves at any/every given opportunity, at the very least until they repent their ways.

I would like to take this opportunity to note that it's not just Spidey; Vic and co, Tarvin and co, obviously Glee/Grogog and co., they're all guilty of zerging 1vs whenever they feel justified or otherwise just want to act like nubs. Yet some of the community then turn a blind eye, and say..."well, they didn't zerg ME, so I don't mind", which simply encourages that continued behavior, and makes them half as culpable after the fact, imho. Whether it's a group, or a single player, zerging or ganking people at 1v's is weak and lame. I'll also throw in cowardly and childish.

To that end, i'd just like to give fair warning....if I happen by GTA, and someone has chosen to 1v one of these offenders, (i don't know why they would chose to 1v someone who has shown they have little honor, unless maybe they aren't aware)...please don't take offense as I will kill them wth extreme prejudice. Additionaly, please don't interfere or "save" them. Turn about is most assuredly fair play.

Again, my 2 cents.

well i do agree that those who did zerging in a 1v should get pwned for disrupting a 1v and for showing little honor towards one another. and i think before a 1v starts there should be like bowing before a 1v starts like what they do in martial arts tournaments as a sign of respect and honor to one another

It's a raid zone people....not a 1v1 zone. I've never started a raid with the sole purpose of disrupting 1v1's and I see no reason to start however; this discussion could very easily influence me to take that very small leap.

As an old kinmate once said "Vals 800 years old he don't give a dam what people think about him". I don't play in the moors to win a popularity contest like some "single" players in the moors.

Spiderbyte, Grogog, Glee and like minded players that come to the moors file an exploit ticket everytime you come to the moors when you see a 1v1. May not make a difference initially but overtime it will have the desired effect.

1v1'rs PLEASE PLEASE file a harassment ticket stating that your 1v1's were ruined by a "zerg". GM's should get a good laugh out of those tickets at the very least.

Just so you know, every night I step into the moors I file an exploit ticket for 1v1 play, I have everyday since I started playing again in the moors. I had my entire raid file one on the six boxing warg....don't see to many of them anymore do you and if you do...not for very long?

Bottom line: Devs have already stated that they're making changes to reduce PVE and increase PVMP play. I'd bet a stupid amount of money that the upcoming changes won't be centered on 1v1 play.

Any justification for 1v1 to the contrary is just stupid....1v1 is not WAI based on class balance alone otherwise you wouldn't need all the rules to balance play between the classes.

On top of that you guys say 1v1 is about "Honor"...you guys don't have a freaking clue what that term means. You really want to know the meaning of "Honor" , go to your nearest VA Hospital and spend some quality time talking with real "Vets" and then come back and let me know what you learned.

That is all,

Val

Originally Posted by Eaglehaven

I had my entire raid file one on the six boxing warg....don't see to many of them anymore do you and if you do...not for very long?

Bottom line: Devs have already stated that they're making changes to reduce PVE and increase PVMP play. I'd bet a stupid amount of money that the upcoming changes won't be centered on 1v1 play.

I still box whenever I want to w/o any hindrance. I'm sure that warg still boxes when he wants to also. I just saw a 1wl 5 rvr boxer the other day that we killed a few times before he gave up. You have no affect on boxing via your tickets. Because, guess what, it's not against the ToS. Most of the boxers have simply left Gladden or don't box frequently. If Turbine had an issue with boxing, all boxers would be banned. End of story.

As for devs making changes to reduce pve and increase pvmp play. I bet you my account against yours, that that's going to affect players like you, Grogog, and Kaleef far far far far far far far far more than it affects anyone who 1v1s.

That is all,

Vic

Originally Posted by Eaglehaven

As an old kinmate once said "Vals 800 years old he don't give a dam what people think about him". I don't play in the moors to win a popularity contest like some "single" players in the moors.

Glee and like minded players that come to the moors file an exploit ticket everytime you come to the moors when you see a 1v1. May not make a difference initially but overtime it will have the desired effect.



Just so you know, every night I step into the moors I file an exploit ticket for 1v1 play, I have everyday since I started playing again in the moors. I had my entire raid file one on the six boxing warg....don't see to many of them anymore do you and if you do...not for very long?

Bottom line: Devs have already stated that they're making changes to reduce PVE and increase PVMP play. I'd bet a stupid amount of money that the upcoming changes won't be centered on 1v1 play.

Any justification for 1v1 to the contrary is just stupid....1v1 is not WAI based on class balance alone otherwise you wouldn't need all the rules to balance play between the classes.

On top of that you guys say 1v1 is about "Honor"...you guys don't have a freaking clue what that term means. You really want to know the meaning of "Honor" , go to your nearest VA Hospital and spend some quality time talking with real "Vets" and then come back and let me know what you learned.

That is all,

Val

I don't 1v1 to win a "popularity contest", I 1v1 for fun and to hone my skills, while giving my opponent an entertaining match.

The thing u just said about Glee just tells me that u lost any capability for rational thought.

I call bs on the ticket thing, you used to 1v1 (then realized you suck), once again, being a hypocrite. The GMS prolly laugh at you making a ticket about that as well. How is that going for u? I don't put tickets about my 1v1s gettin zerged, I take matters into my own hands and own noobs like u when I rarely do see u solo or I just kill u inside of ur zerg. GMs barely help with pve stuff anyway, y bother sendin tickets for pvp stuff rofl? Your logic astounds me. I thought old ppl were supposed to be wise, once again, I was wrong, as wisdom and age in ur case do not intertwine.

1v1s do mean honor in respect to this pathetic game; I go about my life the same way I go about lotro, in a honorable way (not killing orcs and such tho , but u see my point). Please man, my grandpa got his leg blown off for ur whiny butt protecting ur freedom. You're pathetic, shut ur mouth!

Once again, u've been outsmarted by a 19 year old.

Originally Posted by Eaglehaven

WHARRGARBL

Originally Posted by PoliticallyIncorrect69

I don't 1v1 to win a "popularity contest", I 1v1 for fun and to hone my skills, while giving my opponent an entertaining match.

Now tell me Einstein...how do 1v1 players hone their skills when they can't use half of them and most skills require a grp or raid to be effective?

If your IQ was any higher you'd be a pipe wrench.

Val

Originally Posted by Eaglehaven

Now tell me Einstein...how do 1v1 players hone their skills when they can't use half of them and most skills require a grp or raid to be effective?

If your IQ was any higher you'd be a pipe wrench.

Val

It hones it by being prepared to fight with those skills on cool down. Stop looking at things through your own eyes.

Dear Valistar,

I would argue that typically in a 1v1 you use MORE skills than in a raid v. raid scenario. You can't simply rely on fulfilling one function such as burst dps or clicking bolster over and over again- you have to perform all functions necessary to get a kill, and often at the right time/in the right order. Thus 1v1ers are, as a whole, more skilled than their raid-baby counterparts.

If you still don't believe me, I propose this: You bring 24 of your kin/pve buddies out and I will take myself and 11 other 1v1ers: Munce, Vinner, Bel, Winkey, Slashed, Ker, Vic, etc. and let's see who wins.

24 v 12. Seriously. You can have twice our numbers.

Challenge accepted?

-The Great One

Originally Posted by Eaglehaven

Now tell me Einstein...how do 1v1 players hone their skills when they can't use half of them and most skills require a grp or raid to be effective?

If your IQ was any higher you'd be a pipe wrench.

Val

Please give examples of this. I'd LOVE to hear some.

Originally Posted by Eaglehaven

Now tell me Einstein...how do 1v1 players hone their skills when they can't use half of them and most skills require a grp or raid to be effective?

If your IQ was any higher you'd be a pipe wrench.

Val

Honing skills is more than just what abilities you can use. Saying that half of your skills cant be used without a raid is just ignorant, most classes can use every single ability they have without anyone else around, obviously tanks/healers will need another person to use some defensive skills but thats just how MMOs work and nothing at all to do with 1v1s.

A smaller group fight/1v1 is a much better situation than a raid vs raid to practice things like positioning, attacking your opponents back as much as possible while avoiding giving up your own back or learning how to kite effectively for a ranged class. Learning how to counter key abilities like disarms, spider goo, moving target or any other powerful skill you can think of is something that is much easier to do when you dont have 2 raids going at it around you.

Originally Posted by Eaglehaven

Now tell me Einstein...how do 1v1 players hone their skills when they can't use half of them and most skills require a grp or raid to be effective?

If your IQ was any higher you'd be a pipe wrench.

Val

Well, considering u been terrible for 11 ranks and you zerged for all of them (questionable farming aside), I use about 70% of my skills in a 1v1 that aren't cds, as well as raids, so that's more than half... It hones ur skills when you know ur enemy, and I wasn't talkin about actual "skills" literally u moron... but since we are talkin about actual skills here...

Tell me Valistar: how come u never use SI in raids, as it's also a viable 1v1 skill? The only thing I'm gonna use a pipe wrench for is to knock some sense into that idiotic head of urs, peanut brain!

You all make me laugh. I love coming here and reading this so much that it's become part of my daily ritual.

Originally Posted by Monkeylad

You all make me laugh. I love coming here and reading this so much that it's become part of my daily ritual.

Np sir, I'm here to entertain ! As well as entertain the lunacy that is Valistar.

Wait we got of topic, we are here to bash Spiderbyte.

and yes my name should give me away

Originally Posted by Fox1

Wait we got of topic, we are here to bash Spiderbyte.

and yes my name should give me away

The only character I've ever known with Fox anywhere in their name was Foxhunter and he hasn't been around since probably 65.

Rev, you need to take observation lessons from Vinner.

Originally Posted by Shau'nac

Rev, you need to take observation lessons from Vinner.

He's been slacking on his stalking lately, I know.

Originally Posted by reverendmaggot

The only character I've ever known with Fox anywhere in their name was Foxhunter and he hasn't been around since probably 65.

Foxhunter=Spiderbyte my necrophiliac friend.