You guys bored of being fully buffed with massive healing/aoe dps/tanks inside TA? Take the damn keep or go do something or break your raid up (it sure as hell seems like one)...You guys have been farming creeps in here for over TWO HOURS. Water, you're a better damn player than this, stop acting like a zergling, and stop raiding up against 6 damn creepssSDFASD ASKLSDLKSj
rAGE.
Jesus, this is pathetic.
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High Chieftain Ryucrat, Hand of Doom...Retired and done with Lotro for as long as can be
AAWWW! you poor baby, you, warbieber, Iseedeadfreeps/Thomasborn and Murhaaja are always crying about us doing quest and keep flipping when no creeps are on. We start doing your so called "PVMP" are you cry about that to. You should do play wizard101 or some junk. You got what you wanted and you didnt like it.
We start doing your so called "PVMP" are you cry about that to.
This sentence is probably the most hilarious thing I have read in quite some time. Classic Windfola. Raiding against a couple Creeps is now so called "PVMP." Also, if you are unsure about what PVMP is and you weren't here to originally participate in it, then why are you in the moors? Nevermind, don't answer that. You are obviously a key-turning, dominated, underskilled, tryhard kid. Keep up the good work, Windfola died because of kids like you.
First all there were only 7 freeps in Waterdragons raid and it was all Kin members. Second the creeps out number'd us they just left you hanging when we charged. No one came here this morning crying when You and 5 wargs were farming the freeps. No one came here crying a few weeks ago when Iseedeadfreeps logged on to his Champion and joined the raid screaming and cussing at Acor for having his raid at OC.
First all there were only 7 freeps in Waterdragons raid and it was all Kin members. Second the creeps out number'd us they just left you hanging when we charged. No one came here this morning crying when You and 5 wargs were farming the freeps. No one came here crying a few weeks ago when Iseedeadfreeps logged on to his Champion and joined the raid screaming and cussing at Acor for having his raid at OC.
And please, for all the love I have for Water, I really wouldn't be surprised if his group/raid did what Ryu claims he did. Just another day in the Windy moors.
Zerric my man, thanks for "trying PvP" finally, was about time. Much obliged, I'm sure.
Now I have a little challenge for all you sad Windy lot: why not run around away from your NPC's and into the opposing faction's, whether or not you have peeps in support? Why not go crazy and just rush into a bunch of foo's laughing like a Cons?
Mmm, you don't want to, you say? It's too hard and you might die, you claim?
Ah well, was worth a try. Just thought I'd throw idea hats into the ring, while people are still in the mood to try them on for size...
P.S.: Sitting inside a red keep and killing off NPC's while you wait to zerg any unwitting creeps that run in is hardly "PvMP". At least, that's what I gather was happening. Gg!
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First all there were only 7 freeps in Waterdragons raid and it was all Kin members. Second the creeps out number'd us they just left you hanging when we charged. No one came here this morning crying when You and 5 wargs were farming the freeps. No one came here crying a few weeks ago when Iseedeadfreeps logged on to his Champion and joined the raid screaming and cussing at Acor for having his raid at OC.
"The Eye of Sauron sees all but can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch"
It's an unfortunate result of people continuing to PvMP in an environment within which they can no longer find enrichment or satisfaction for the most part.
PvMP for Zerric and crew is one side dying and his side standing in a keep Cappy buffed up to the gills topped off with hope and scrolls and food, bathed in epic heals while the champs blast every cd they have. That's fun... for them... so much fun. Anyone that has been on the opposite of the Zerric/Protectors of the Valar zerg tactics knows that skill, class and respect are the last things they bring to the Windy Moors.
Meh I changed my playstyle to more Shaplike and am having a blast most of the time, now like a Shap has said if more people would do so and not worry so much about death count and rating then it would be a better place.
I think I just heard Shap fall over from shock.
(Current rating goals close to 1000 without just flat out feeding but pushing in for a kill.)
My fav moment so far was chasing 2 people inside TA all the way to the Tyrant/CG room with my squishy.
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Meh I changed my playstyle to more Shaplike and am having a blast most of the time, now like a Shap has said if more people would do so and not worry so much about death count and rating then it would be a better place.
I think I just heard Shap fall over from shock.
(Current rating goals close to 1000 without just flat out feeding but pushing in for a kill.)
My fav moment so far was chasing 2 people inside TA all the way to the Tyrant/CG room with my squishy.
Meh I changed my playstyle to more Shaplike and am having a blast most of the time, now like a Shap has said if more people would do so and not worry so much about death count and rating then it would be a better place.
YESSS! Another convert!
Originally Posted by RodhinKinning
I think I just heard Shap fall over from shock.
No, but I am shedding copious tears of joy. :") <--- See?
Believe me, there is just as much frustration on some of the "more experienced" freeps out in the moors with other "less experienced" freeps. For the most part I am always in the front trying to get that kill, even though I know there are 6-13 wargs stealthed just meters away. (Lots of fun to pop brand and watch em all come out of the shadows hehe) I cant tell you how many times I wanted to have admin rights and literally kick the chicken chit freeps out of the moors. Lately it seems there are more creeps out, and they are playing much better than 90% of the freeps that are out in the moors. Many more rank ups on the creeps side lately, which I think is great. Makes for a more competitive and fun match up. As for the comment about the freeps just sitting in the keep waiting for creeps to run in, and then the creep gets slaughtered.....well....its rather simple. Dont go to the keep. Group up, move out to a different location, many times freeps get tunnel vision, if they see you are no longer running to the keep, (lets just say TA for example) then they will eventually come out to check EC, LC, WTAB, and probably end up waiting at OC. They really have no where to go at this point, if you have TA, then you have defenses there, you have defenses OC, Lugz, so organize and kill their leader, or healers. I am not going to go over anymore strategy, all I am saying is that creeps have options, so QQing is not really valid IMO. In regards to NPCs, well who besides Shap just likes to run into a bunch of enemies knowing their chances of killing something is about 1:100000000000000. Especially when it has been more like 3-7:1 fights. I would go fight one reaver and suddenly be pounced and attacked by 3-5 wargs, so why wouldnt I try to get NPC help....valid strategy and move IMO. 1 on 1 is obviously cheap in a situation like that. Anyway, see you all out there soon. Cappy Bubbles for the win.
Freeps complaining about wargs is hilarious, because a) they have burgs, which are just as good when played right; and b) they have other stealth classes/races too. Are you trying to suggest creeps should hug keeps too, 'cause if they came out theyd have to face mini's, RK's, hunters, champs, wardens, burgs and LM's? Then let's say eff PvP, all sit at Grams/GV wanking off. -.-
Also, with Windfaila's action being what it is (it's fail, for those of you that didn't get that), moving away from the keep-huggers usually means you won't be getting any PvP. Like, at all. For hours on end, if not days. So that's not exactly a solution to anything.
I'm always in creep groups that keep pushing into keeps, and even the ranked freeps will do nothing to reciprocate. I'm looking at all the long-time R10+'s here, who often lead f'raids but don't seem to wanna cooperate to better the action on this server. Humbly, please get up off your butts and start working together.
Btw, it's not just freeps that hug keeps, although it's more ridiculous when they do because they actually don't need that advantage at all. Creeps do it tons, and this should be a point of concern for both sides. It isn't, and that's because everyone's easymoding on ol' Windy.
Finally, what you said about me couldn't be more wrong. I like rushing into fights no matter what the odds, not just because I'm some kind of masochist as many seem to think. If I was always running into fights where I couldn't get anything back, do you really think I'd be making so much infamy and getting so many kills erryday? A KB a death is hardly something to turn your nose up at, especially on a creep class that has no useful CD's worth mentioning (unless the freep in opposition is a hunter, 'course).
Last edited by CirdalvalSilnuviel; Jul 11 2012 at 04:04 AM.
Believe me, there is just as much frustration on some of the "more experienced" freeps out in the moors with other "less experienced" freeps. For the most part I am always in the front trying to get that kill, even though I know there are 6-13 wargs stealthed just meters away. (Lots of fun to pop brand and watch em all come out of the shadows hehe) I cant tell you how many times I wanted to have admin rights and literally kick the chicken chit freeps out of the moors. Lately it seems there are more creeps out, and they are playing much better than 90% of the freeps that are out in the moors. Many more rank ups on the creeps side lately, which I think is great. Makes for a more competitive and fun match up. As for the comment about the freeps just sitting in the keep waiting for creeps to run in, and then the creep gets slaughtered.....well....its rather simple. Dont go to the keep. Group up, move out to a different location, many times freeps get tunnel vision, if they see you are no longer running to the keep, (lets just say TA for example) then they will eventually come out to check EC, LC, WTAB, and probably end up waiting at OC. They really have no where to go at this point, if you have TA, then you have defenses there, you have defenses OC, Lugz, so organize and kill their leader, or healers. I am not going to go over anymore strategy, all I am saying is that creeps have options, so QQing is not really valid IMO. In regards to NPCs, well who besides Shap just likes to run into a bunch of enemies knowing their chances of killing something is about 1:100000000000000. Especially when it has been more like 3-7:1 fights. I would go fight one reaver and suddenly be pounced and attacked by 3-5 wargs, so why wouldnt I try to get NPC help....valid strategy and move IMO. 1 on 1 is obviously cheap in a situation like that. Anyway, see you all out there soon. Cappy Bubbles for the win.
Believe me, there is just as much frustration on some of the "more experienced" freeps out in the moors with other "less experienced" freeps. For the most part I am always in the front trying to get that kill, even though I know there are 6-13 wargs stealthed just meters away. (Lots of fun to pop brand and watch em all come out of the shadows hehe) I cant tell you how many times I wanted to have admin rights and literally kick the chicken chit freeps out of the moors. Lately it seems there are more creeps out, and they are playing much better than 90% of the freeps that are out in the moors. Many more rank ups on the creeps side lately, which I think is great. Makes for a more competitive and fun match up. As for the comment about the freeps just sitting in the keep waiting for creeps to run in, and then the creep gets slaughtered.....well....its rather simple. Dont go to the keep. Group up, move out to a different location, many times freeps get tunnel vision, if they see you are no longer running to the keep, (lets just say TA for example) then they will eventually come out to check EC, LC, WTAB, and probably end up waiting at OC. They really have no where to go at this point, if you have TA, then you have defenses there, you have defenses OC, Lugz, so organize and kill their leader, or healers. I am not going to go over anymore strategy, all I am saying is that creeps have options, so QQing is not really valid IMO. In regards to NPCs, well who besides Shap just likes to run into a bunch of enemies knowing their chances of killing something is about 1:100000000000000. Especially when it has been more like 3-7:1 fights. I would go fight one reaver and suddenly be pounced and attacked by 3-5 wargs, so why wouldnt I try to get NPC help....valid strategy and move IMO. 1 on 1 is obviously cheap in a situation like that. Anyway, see you all out there soon. Cappy Bubbles for the win.
This game has changed a lot. The server has changed considerably. It's still hard for me to grasp with that concept that things have indeed changed.
Back when I remember the days as being more 'golden', it was probably around the time when I was still that nub warden out there being kicked in the &&& by some rank 4 warg in a 1v1.
That was probably the most fun I look back at, having a big challenge to my abilities, and despite failing over and over, and struggling to overcome that challenge, using it as an opportunity to grow.
The hard part for me to grasp now in change is the fact that those challenges, and the circumstances that facilitated those challenges, and the very ability to grow in ability simply no longer exist. I constantly get frustrated at the newer crowd of freepside, and to be honest even people I may even group with often. To me, sometimes people just don't understand how it should be, how from my experience everyone, despite whatever play style can achieve the best of what we all go out to the ettenmoors to do.
Facts are, because the situation of the moors has changed on top of the populace of people changing just leads to the facts that the way people classify and perform 'PvMP' has changed. I may not like it on either side, but it's the way it is. There are people that have been around just as long, or somewhat longer than me have conformed to this change, because they have adapted what matters for them to achieve their overall goal of satisfaction from the ettenmoors. As for me, and some like me, I will never fall into this category, I'm not going to conform to the change. This means that there's going to be a nostalgic scar that will persist and be part of my Lotro PvP experience as long as I enjoy the game. For others that share my ideologies, it will be a different scar.
In my mind people are new. People do not understand my frustrations, because they do not see how I have formed my play style or gaming experience. That to me is also frustrating but something I have to deal with if I continue to PvP in Lotro.
It saddens me that the environment for the growth of my type of play style no longer exists for the general populace due to adaptation to turbines changes (or lack of) in the ettenmoors, and the majorities view is going to be different as a result. This also saddens me, but it's just the stage that it has gone. These changes have inevitebly left me with less satisfaction in Lotro, because I am less and less achieving that which originally inspired me to make lotro PvP my hobby. I find on this note, that because of this I am becoming less and less attracted to what the community and game has to offer me, and am (when I still log in) simply squeezing the best things out of what this game and it's people still offer me.
As we look at all of this, It is best that we don't get upset or in spite of each other for our frustrations, as we each have different frustrations, and how we all play is not better than the way anybody else plays.
An important reflection upon these 'bitching battles' we occasionally all give each other as a result of these differences, is that perhaps we need to look at how we can serve others, in the idea that, we not only get what we want out of our experiences, but also come to realization that maximizing fun for ourselves comes in making it fun for everybody, regardless of faction, kinship, playstyle or the view in which we think the ettenmoors should come to function.
This goes for my kinmates as well as any other reader.
Hostility and the idea of oppression on those that are different to us only serves to further degrade what is still small and valuable in this game and it's community. There's no point to it past the short term satisfaction of making yourself feel better, and it's harming yourself more than it will ever harm the person which you are speaking out against. The tongue is a double edged sword, and should be treated as such. I have obviously struggled with this in my lotro experience, but it's a definite realization I have come to see. I hope that you may all also see this at some point.
I wish all of you peace while you all continue to hobby out what fun you still have or are finding still in lotro.
I must say, though it's only been a couple days since my last inflammatory post, I've come to the same conclusion as dear ol' Consfail. There's no point bothering with the attitudes of people on this server (thankee, Chaoz, Rain and Glass for making me see this ) nor the imbalance in the game itself.
So cheers, all. No more posts from moi that aren't just lame jokes or (once in a turquoise moon) 'grats posts. I hope you're happy now.
I must say, though it's only been a couple days since my last inflammatory post, I've come to the same conclusion as dear ol' Consfail. There's no point bothering with the attitudes of people on this server (thankee, Chaoz, Rain and Glass for making me see this ) nor the imbalance in the game itself.
So cheers, all. No more posts from moi that aren't just lame jokes or (once in a turquoise moon) 'grats posts. I hope you're happy now.
Eh, whatever. Screw people's feelings. I'm still gonna ROFLSTOMP/curbstomp/corpsejump every &&&&ing freep I kill, all the while ez-moding/branding/raiding up to faceroll the &&&& out of their entire &&&&ing miserable, pixalated, terribad playstyles.
With the few exceptions, that I still deem decent players/human-beings.
@Zerric....you're a moron.
That is all.
High Chieftain Ryucrat, Hand of Doom...Retired and done with Lotro for as long as can be
Take a long break Ryu, I promise it will do you a world of good bud.
I'd have to agree with this. The only thing I'd have to say if I had anything worthwhile to say would be: WTB Comms I needs moar Pots!!!
Seriously though is that popcorn still fresh?
“If you die you’re completely happy and your soul somewhere lives on. I’m not afraid of dying. Total peace after death, becoming someone else is the best hope I’ve got.”
I'd have to agree with this. The only thing I'd have to say if I had anything worthwhile to say would be: WTB Comms I needs moar Pots!!!
Seriously though is that popcorn still fresh?
Its seasoned fresh with the blood of hobbits.
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