Thread: Polls

i just wanted to gather some information about what the creep/freep comunity thinks about different parts of PvMP. so here are a few simple polls, just leave your awnser for each one numbered apropritely.
1: what is the most contested keep? my awnser: TA.
2: what is the most OP freep class? my awnser: Warden.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my awnser: toss up between Reaver and Weaver.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my awnser: Armour for the Lessers.(AKA norborg chiten.)
5: what is the worst freep quest? my awnser: no clue cant play freep side.

Originally Posted by Light12

i just wanted to gather some information about what the creep/freep comunity thinks about different parts of PvMP. so here are a few simple polls, just leave your awnser for each one numbered apropritely.
1: what is the most contested keep? my awnser: TA.
2: what is the most OP freep class? my awnser: Warden.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my awnser: toss up between Reaver and Weaver.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my awnser: Armour for the Lessers.(AKA norborg chiten.)
5: what is the worst freep quest? my awnser: no clue cant play freep side.

1:Yeah, TA.
2: Mincers, no doubt.
3:Freavers
4:The one where you have to KB 30 freeps in TA for 40 comms.
5: Dunno, I don't freep.

6. What is the point of threads like this?
7. What is the point of posts like this?

Originally Posted by OnevsOneGod

6. What is the point of threads like this?
7. What is the point of posts like this?

Lol, I guess he was just wondering, and I'm bored and browsing the forums.

Originally Posted by Light12

i just wanted to gather some information about what the creep/freep comunity thinks about different parts of PvMP. so here are a few simple polls, just leave your awnser for each one numbered apropritely.
1: what is the most contested keep? my awnser: TA.
2: what is the most OP freep class? my awnser: Warden.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my awnser: toss up between Reaver and Weaver.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my awnser: Armour for the Lessers.(AKA norborg chiten.)
5: what is the worst freep quest? my awnser: no clue cant play freep side.

1. TA.
2. RK.
3. WL or defiler.
4. Agreed.
5. Same.

[QUOTE=Squelcher;6265876]
3. WL or defiler.
[QUOTE]
That just jumped out at me. Have you played a reaver? Just wondering.

1: what is the most contested keep? TA ~ 1st place freeps attack

2: what is the most OP freep class? Warden~ they just wont die =(

3: what is the weakest creep class? Reaver ~ so obvious cuz its the only free class

4: what is the worst creep quest? funny i say any Quest from TA cuz Freeps always have TA on lock down

5: what is the worst freep quest? any raid Quest ~ takes like 2hrs to raid a place if freeps are w8ing out and inside that place

1: what is the most contested keep? my awnser: TA.
2: what is the most OP freep class? my awnser: Most overpowered is RK/Mini. Most broken is Burg.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my awnser: Reaver.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my awnser: All of the kill 20 freeps at X place quests. Why does it matter where I kill them? Most of those quests just sit in my log forever, because I do lots of my killing in the open rather than inside some keep. Just give a daily kill 5-10 freeps.

Pretry sure the answer to those questions are in every thread, on most pages in this subforum

Originally Posted by Light12

i just wanted to gather some information about what the creep/freep comunity thinks about different parts of PvMP. so here are a few simple polls, just leave your awnser for each one numbered apropritely.
1: what is the most contested keep? my awnser: TA.
2: what is the most OP freep class? my awnser: Warden.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my awnser: toss up between Reaver and Weaver.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my awnser: Armour for the Lessers.(AKA norborg chiten.)
5: what is the worst freep quest? my awnser: no clue cant play freep side.

1. TA
2. Mins. (not to mention, Champs,RK,Wardens)
3. I have tried all classes except, WL, Defilers and BAs. (My quess would be WL.)
4. Creep quest; Kill X Amount of Freeps at X location.
5. Freep quest; I haven't played my freeps in awhile, but I would guess; Wolves.

ok here is a few more.
6: What is the worst thing they ever did to PvMP? my awnser: Rigged the comms.
7: What is the biggest place to farm for creeps? my awnser: That Dwarf mineing camp.
8: What is the biggest place to farm for freeps? my awnser: I would guess either Grothrum or Isendeep when creeps have it.
9: What is the worst thing that could happen to PvMP? my awnser: They could go and FORCE you to buy all of the skills and everything else you need from the TP store.(i really shouldn't have gone and given them that idea.)
10there gonna kill me for this one) which member of the Comunity Team do you find most annoying? my awnser: Kelsan.(yes i said it.)

Originally Posted by Light12

ok here is a few more.
6: What is the worst thing they ever did to PvMP? my awnser: Rigged the comms.
7: What is the biggest place to farm for creeps? my awnser: That Dwarf mineing camp.
8: What is the biggest place to farm for freeps? my awnser: I would guess either Grothrum or Isendeep when creeps have it.
9: What is the worst thing that could happen to PvMP? my awnser: They could go and FORCE you to buy all of the skills and everything else you need from the TP store.(i really shouldn't have gone and given them that idea.)
10there gonna kill me for this one) which member of the Comunity Team do you find most annoying? my awnser: Kelsan.(yes i said it.)

6. Changed the PvMP system and made PvMP unbalanced play.
7. I would guess; OC or Lug Rez or perhaps Grams, lol.
8. EC, TR Rez (when they have the keep), GV.
9. Yeah, I would say, buying all of your skills and erveything else for your class via Turbine Store (I hope they don't see this!)
10. Not gonna say, lol.

[QUOTE=Drakojan;6265880][QUOTE=Squelcher;6265876]
3. WL or defiler.

That just jumped out at me. Have you played a reaver? Just wondering.

Yes, I have. I realised it was a very tough class to play, but I also realised it can make a fair amount of inf if the reaver is willing to die for it. Keep in mind, I did not say that reaver was easy. I just don't consider it to be the hardest/worst-off creep class.

Originally Posted by Light12

6: What is the worst thing they ever did to PvMP?
7: What is the biggest place to farm for creeps?
8: What is the biggest place to farm for freeps?
9: What is the worst thing that could happen to PvMP?

6. MoM to currently
7. Ettenmoors
8. Depends if you're a (rofl) warg. Otherwise, lol...
9. Turbine has already done the worst thing they could do to pvmp with the store. Don't think it could get any worse.

[QUOTE=Squelcher;6266585][QUOTE=Drakojan;6265880]

Originally Posted by Squelcher

Yes, I have. I realised it was a very tough class to play, but I also realised it can make a fair amount of inf if the reaver is willing to die for it. Keep in mind, I did not say that reaver was easy. I just don't consider it to be the hardest/worst-off creep class.

I do. Low survability, low damage, and melee. Warleader does less damage less, but survives a LOT more. They are also targeting less (soloing)

[QUOTE=Stevo6;6266727][QUOTE=Squelcher;6266585]

Originally Posted by Drakojan

I do. Low survability, low damage, and melee. Warleader does less damage less, but survives a LOT more. They are also targeting less (soloing)

Alas, WL survivability is worthless compared to freeps now. We die so easily, not as easily as other creep classes, but still easily.

Originally Posted by Light12

ok here is a few more.
6: What is the worst thing they ever did to PvMP? my awnser: Rigged the comms.
7: What is the biggest place to farm for creeps? my awnser: That Dwarf mineing camp.
8: What is the biggest place to farm for freeps? my awnser: I would guess either Grothrum or Isendeep when creeps have it.
9: What is the worst thing that could happen to PvMP? my awnser: They could go and FORCE you to buy all of the skills and everything else you need from the TP store.(i really shouldn't have gone and given them that idea.)
10there gonna kill me for this one) which member of the Comunity Team do you find most annoying? my awnser: Kelsan.(yes i said it.)

6: Commendations, Audacity, Uncapping stats, Making the worst (IMO) creep class free instead of a better one, etc.
7: OC, OC Rez, Grams
8: Grothum, GV, TA
9: Agreed.
10: Prolly ZombieColumbus. Although it's a tossup between him and Kelsan. Prolly Zombie tho.

1: what is the most contested keep? my answer: TA. (OC if it was a keep :P)
2: what is the most OP freep class? my answer: Minstrel.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my answer: None tbh, once ranked high enough all classes can be pretty strong, so I'm going to say any low rank class.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my answer: Mash... not the most exciting quest in the world fighting slugs but offers good Commies lol.
5: what is the worst freep quest? my answer: Been to long since I played freep-side. (Give Premium players a chance to play freep-side please )

EDIT (Didn't notice the additional poll added lol :P)

6: What is the worst thing they ever did to PvMP? my answer: Unbalance PVMP, used to be pretty well balance during SoA. (Extra plus for Commies!)
7: What is the biggest place to farm for creeps? my answer: LUG GY/OC/Grams.
8: What is the biggest place to farm for freeps? my answer: HH/STAB
9: What is the worst thing that could happen to PvMP? my answer: Telling everyone a new PVMP map is on its way with MoM in -->2008<--! Way to go Turbine, show your PVMP players the PVMP love ¬_¬...
10: which member of the Comunity Team do you find most annoying? my answer: Kelsan.(yes i said it.) Might as well agree with this lol

Originally Posted by Light12

i just wanted to gather some information about what the creep/freep comunity thinks about different parts of PvMP. so here are a few simple polls, just leave your awnser for each one numbered apropritely.
1: what is the most contested keep? my awnser: TA.
2: what is the most OP freep class? my awnser: Warden.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my awnser: toss up between Reaver and Weaver.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my awnser: Armour for the Lessers.(AKA norborg chiten.)
5: what is the worst freep quest? my awnser: no clue cant play freep side.

1. All of them are pretty evenly contested....the freeps of Riddermark believe in PvE.
2. Warden. We have had a few that solo'd whole keeps. (but then again, who hasnt?).
3. Freavers.
4. Definitely "Armour for the Lessers".
5. I have no idea, can't play freep side and probably never will play a freep on Riddermark at any rate.

Originally Posted by Light12

ok here is a few more.
6: What is the worst thing they ever did to PvMP? my awnser: Rigged the comms.
7: What is the biggest place to farm for creeps? my awnser: That Dwarf mineing camp.
8: What is the biggest place to farm for freeps? my awnser: I would guess either Grothrum or Isendeep when creeps have it.
9: What is the worst thing that could happen to PvMP? my awnser: They could go and FORCE you to buy all of the skills and everything else you need from the TP store.(i really shouldn't have gone and given them that idea.)
10there gonna kill me for this one) which member of the Comunity Team do you find most annoying? my awnser: Kelsan.(yes i said it.)

6. Made Creep skills ridiculously high.....made Audacity worth less comms than a flipping skin.
7. OC/Lugz Rez/Gramsfoot
8. The NPC huggers at EC.
9. They could raise the Aud rank.....make skills worth more......raise freep dps....
10. Idk...probably because I don't really care anymore.

I gave up on hoping for PvP a good while ago.

Originally Posted by Squelcher

3. WL or defiler.

[QUOTE=Squelcher;6266585][QUOTE=Drakojan;6265880]

Originally Posted by Squelcher

Yes, I have. I realised it was a very tough class to play, but I also realised it can make a fair amount of inf if the reaver is willing to die for it. Keep in mind, I did not say that reaver was easy. I just don't consider it to be the hardest/worst-off creep class.

WL: most creepside survivability. Capable dps when played correctly. Powerful debuffs and strong buffs for group.

Creepside and the Moors was not designed for solo play, but for creeps to NEED to group to contend with freeps. While many of the aspects of that old meta have been changed, the ones regarding the WL have not. Just because you aren't as strong as a spider or warg or BA in 1v1s and pew pew matches doesn't mean you are the most underpowered class in need of buffs. The Warleader was meant to be a class designed to excel in RvR. The Warleader is the strongest creepside RvR class that offers the most AoE healing, AoE buffs, and AoE debuffs of all the creep classes.

Why the reaver is considered weak? A squishy melee single target dps that has to rely on DoTs with only an 8second ooc charge to get in and out of a fight. For reaver to be successful it nither needs to be Tanky, or more mobile.
The weaver is weak because her limited dps combined with short range and the. We'd for her to often get into melee to be fully effective without a way to get out again or the sustain to stay in severely hurts her Play as the off dps/debuffer.

./rant off

[QUOTE=mager555;6268221][QUOTE=Squelcher;6266585]

Originally Posted by Drakojan

WL: most creepside survivability. Capable dps when played correctly. Powerful debuffs and strong buffs for group.

Creepside and the Moors was not designed for solo play, but for creeps to NEED to group to contend with freeps. While many of the aspects of that old meta have been changed, the ones regarding the WL have not. Just because you aren't as strong as a spider or warg or BA in 1v1s and pew pew matches doesn't mean you are the most underpowered class in need of buffs. The Warleader was meant to be a class designed to excel in RvR. The Warleader is the strongest creepside RvR class that offers the most AoE healing, AoE buffs, and AoE debuffs of all the creep classes.

Why the reaver is considered weak? A squishy melee single target dps that has to rely on DoTs with only an 8second ooc charge to get in and out of a fight. For reaver to be successful it nither needs to be Tammy, or more mobile.
The weaver is weak because her limited dps combined with short range and the. We'd for her to often get into melee to be fully effective without a way to get out again or the sustain to stay in severely hurts her Play as the off dps/debuffer.

./rant off

WL dps is rubbish, and all that's needed to turn our healing capabilities on its head is a single freep shooting us and stopping our inductions. I've seen reavers, I am a good friend of a R12 reaver who actually described reaver as easy.

Originally Posted by Light12

i just wanted to gather some information about what the creep/freep comunity thinks about different parts of PvMP. so here are a few simple polls, just leave your awnser for each one numbered apropritely.
1: what is the most contested keep? my awnser: TA.
2: what is the most OP freep class? my awnser: Warden.
3: what is the weakest creep class? my awnser: toss up between Reaver and Weaver.
4: what is the worst creep quest? my awnser: Armour for the Lessers.(AKA norborg chiten.)
5: what is the worst freep quest? my awnser: no clue cant play freep side.

1. Does stab count as a keep? Most fights occur at TA, but TR is the most contested keep being most attempts made to flip it.
2. Minstrel
3. Reaver
4. It's questing >.> (collecting 75 of the meat things(awesome vocab ftw) that you turn in to send mazauk).
5. ^^^^^^

Read some of the other replies and thought i would save myself another post:

War-leaders do not need amazing dps, because if they did they would be ridiculously OP(A good WL can beat any class 1v1 except minstrels who heal in 1v1s, or turtling wardens which are pointless to 1v1). Also, I've seen a WL 3v1 bad freeps who had a cappy half healing(like i said, bad freeps) and make every freep run 1 by 1 even with npcs on the WL.

[QUOTE=Squelcher;6268568][QUOTE=mager555;6268221]

Originally Posted by Squelcher

R12 reaver who actually described reaver as easy.

Key word, R12. You shouldn't need to be R12 to be awesome.
This is when the other classes get awesome (IMHO):
Warg: R5ish
Spider: R6ish
Blackarrow: R5ish
Warleader:R6-8ish
Defiler: I only know one defiler, and he's R7 I think, so I guess my answer is R7.
So, needing to be R10+ to be awesome isn't really worth suffering through those 10 ranks. I really like the Reaver class, I think it could be interesting if done well, but I can't bring myself to get past R3. I have 700 inf till R4, but I can't do it. It's too much. I can't even walk into the battle without getting killed by AoE, I'm not even getting targetted...

[QUOTE=Squelcher;6268568][QUOTE=mager555;6268221]

Originally Posted by Squelcher

WL dps is rubbish, and all that's needed to turn our healing capabilities on its head is a single freep shooting us and stopping our inductions. I've seen reavers, I am a good friend of a R12 reaver who actually described reaver as easy.

And before minstrels and Runekeeper healing became broken in PvP all it took is 1-2 capable wargs/reavers/spiders to reduce their healing by 80%+. Now we have to rely on store bought blight, but the ability for a single person to shutdown a healer has been around forever.

If you have good players in your raid then you should have AoE roots and fears and webs to allow for kiting. Honestly though with current freep dps capabilities, interrupted or not your probably not going to be keeping anyone up without bubble and r9 heal, neither with an induction.