Thread: Lotro Classic Server- Interesting Idea

I dont know if this idea has ever been brought up before, but it is something that me and some friends have hoped to see for awhile(but most likely never will). Im not sure about many of you, but for a lot of the people I know, the game started to fall off for us after Mines of Moria was released. The PvP went down hill and so did the PvE in my opinion. My idea for this would be for turbine to somehow bring up a server that was set back to the Shadows Of Angmar, so none of the expansion packs. The level cap would be 50 and everything would be like it was back then. From a PvE standpoint, I had the most fun playing the instances back then(Carn Dum, Urugarth, The Rift which is the best raid in this game to date imo) than I have liked any of the instances since. But mostly, I want this to happen from a PvP standpoint. I have PvPed since very early on in this game, and I can confidently say that the PvP in this game has never been more balanced than it was back then. Yes, there were still a few issues, but not even close to what we have now. There was freep gear that was usable as gear for PvP and PvE because it had the essential stats your class needed, and from the creep perspective, there was still Destiny Points(much better than commendations imo) and it was a balanced and fun PvP system. This is all out of my opinion, and I was just wondering what some others thought of this idea. I dont know too much about computers at all, so I dont know how hard this would be to set up and do, but just thinking about it, it doesnt seem that hard and they already have the files in the game so it wouldnt cost them any money or too much time to set something like this up. So just let me know your opinions on this idea!

Thanks for reading, and sorry for the huge block of text!

YES YES YES YES!!!!

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I been thinkin about that for so long but havent gotten around to makin a forum post. Prob is not many ppl left from SoA to know how great the pvp was, but I def leave my server to go there, even if I had to level a new toon to 50. I prob roll a champ to show u can win without kiting then or maybe play my awesome shield spec guard 1v1 again. SoA had the most epic 1v1s !

Ah i forgot to post that I would be completely willing to level to 50 again to do this. Also, i agree that there arent many SoA people left, but I think people who are frustrated by the current PvP might try it out.

I would love to see what you suggest, only turn the entireity of Angmar into a PVP zone. Carn Dum as the new Gramsfoot. It would be true PVP.

Interesting idea. I'd play it. Of course, I came in at around the time of Moria expansion, maybe shortly afterwards. But that sounds cool. And lvl 50 seems WAYYY closer than lvl 75.

Only if i still get to play my warden!

Hmm, I never thought about if Wardens and Runekeepers could possibly work. I dont see why they wouldnt be able to, as long as they dont effect the balance of freep and creep. I dont want to put the blame solely on those 2 classes, but when they were introduced is when the PvP started to become unbalanced. But I think it could probably end up working out.

I didn't play back then. How balanced was it?

Probably the best suggestion ever tbh - put it in the suggestions forum, turbine will never see it down here.

However a dedicated pvp server would I imagine employ a separate subscription in order to play - they'd need to make money from it somehow. But they really should take a look at the potential of this idea, and canvas the player-base on it. I'm thinking 'a lot' would be very interested in it! I'd sign up immediately.

The best idea to come up this year. Give the permission to a Turbine affiliate, dig up the old code for SoA and profit more than from F2P.
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turbine can barely afford to maintain the code we have now.

what makes you all think that they could possibly afford to maintain a separate code for this SoA server?

they cannot afford to devote more then the minimum of resources towards pvmp...how could they possibly find resources to maintain this 'classic' server much less make the suggested changes?

its is a fine idea on the surface...but it is just a pipe dream...

Originally Posted by Stevo6

I didn't play back then. How balanced was it?

Last couple of books of SoA was the closest to balanced pvp this game will ever see.

Running instances for a rare loot drop that you could actually use, and not a mindless barter system grind, no LI's... yeah, the game was so much better then.

I'd resub for this but, it'd never happen for the simple fact that there'd be no money for Turbine to make out of it.

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It's been brought up many times before. People have been nostalgic about SoA book 12-14 PVP ever since MoM launched. I would love to still be able to play SoA... but it's not gonna happen. Nice fantasy though.

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I like it, although I'd say no wardens or runekeepers since it'll just create alot more trouble then its worth to fit them into the SoA era. I mean back then i had ridiculous B/P/E on my guard I don't want to think what kind of B/P/E a warden could reach on top of its hots. Runekeepers... pace of combat is alot slower then the kind of dps RKs have so balancing the two out in order to fit into SoA is alot of work and a very big deterant for Turbine if this idea was to be considered since that would equate to them having to put in work rather then just making a server with SoA on it.

PMing this to every dev that I know of.
Emailing this to Turbine.
Mailing this to Turbine.
Spamming OOC with the link to this for people to see it.
Wasnt in SoA, but saw videos, and it looks AWESOME.
Everyone... Just imagine for a moment... When you see a minstrel, you don't piss yourself and run away. 0.0 Except you would be running around, get stunned by a burg, BOOM, it's over...




Oh, I almost forgot.
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Oh, and did I mention that this is an awesome idea? /drool

The one problem is that it would actually give Turbine an excuse to never introduce any new PVMP content at all, ever.

Originally Posted by Squelcher

The one problem is that it would actually give Turbine an excuse to never introduce any new PVMP content at all, ever.

They're already full of excuses for not implementing anything new. So it'd be different how?

Again though, it'll never happen because there's no way for them cash in with the store.

Originally Posted by KillGore81

They're already full of excuses for not implementing anything new. So it'd be different how?

Again though, it'll never happen because there's no way for them cash in with the store.

Yes but I think the way it is now in terms of updates, not balance, is preferable to never getting a single update again.

One of the best PvP suggestions I've seen.

Turbine, I am willing to pay for this feature. Just being able to play Carn dum/Rift content as if it were endgame instead of something to bypass would be worth it for me, not to mention the PvP. It would also provide more content for people who like "endgame", and have already levelled 75 toons but never really done the lvl 50 endgame content.

People say they would love to go back and do all the PvE content and such again but that is total BS.

As great as those instances and raids were they got a bit boring after awhile. People wanted new raids and instances then because things dull out after awhile. Those of us who played and ran all that stuff on level would get bored in a month or 2 of all that stuff.

I'd love to see this idea implemented for PvP. I've mentioned it a half dozen times on these boards over the past 2 years or so. It would just be great. PvP was much more fun then. That being said it would not be a permanent fix. There were still issues then (though not as many) so players will still complain that needs change. After a year or 2 it will get dull as well. I just wish the actual map and such could be rolled back to 50 (although characters and such would be cool as well).

Would be great for awhile but even if turbine did it (which there is a .01% chance) it wouldn't work out.

Originally Posted by Slin6

People say they would love to go back and do all the PvE content and such again but that is total BS.

I wouldn't mind at all. If it meant to have good pvp again, it be worth it.

Originally Posted by Squelcher

Yes but I think the way it is now in terms of updates, not balance, is preferable to never getting a single update again.

The entire point of updates is to bring pvmp closer to balance. The last 2-3 books of SoA was close to having it. Look at turbine's track record with updates to the moors since MoM released.

I'd rather play in a fun pvp environment and not worry about what a future pvmp revamp might do to wreck it. If people want to have "updates" hung over their head then a classic server might not be for them. No one said the entire game would be reverted to it.

Originally Posted by PoliticallyIncorrect69

I wouldn't mind at all. If it meant to have good pvp again, it be worth it.

As much fun as I had then running those instances on level I just don't know if I could do it again. After running it so quick above level and already knowing everything to it I feel like it would get boring pretty quick.

I do agree it would be worth it. As someone who doesn't do anything out side of the moors and has little play time I would love to see a classic server...I just know it wouldn't work for most people.

I just think if they rolled the actual map back it would improve play in some aspects. Then again with the high DPS and zerg we have now no walls on EC/OC wouldn't work out lol.

Ok so I just want meh Hotspots bacK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And luminous stones for gear....

And DP....

Originally Posted by Slin6

As much fun as I had then running those instances on level I just don't know if I could do it again. After running it so quick above level and already knowing everything to it I feel like it would get boring pretty quick.

I do agree it would be worth it. As someone who doesn't do anything out side of the moors and has little play time I would love to see a classic server...I just know it wouldn't work for most people.

I just think if they rolled the actual map back it would improve play in some aspects. Then again with the high DPS and zerg we have now no walls on EC/OC wouldn't work out lol.

Ok so I just want meh Hotspots bacK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And luminous stones for gear....

And DP....

But we keep the Bird. We need to keep the Bird. It's the only reason I still log on.
Your mighty blow topples the Bird...
Classic.

RIP Book 12-14 PvP...back when Orion handled PvP

Was so much more fun. It did need something new though. I remember hearing that they redesigned the moors and I was quite excited. After my first time seeing it I was hoping it was a joke. I never really like it and always said I'll get use to it...

yea right.