I believe you meant to say "I was at least nice enough to SAY you were a good player". You know nothing about me; from what I can tell from what you've said, you're most likely bad as I stated b4. Cooldown poppers=usually bad 1v1ers. Yeah, I don't want you to waste 20 dollars just to get destroyed. Take my advice tho, ask other GOOD champs that DONT pop cds on ur server to give you tips. Kthxbye!
Could you possibly be any more ignorant and near-sighted?
This is a very old creep refrain "play exactly the way I want you to, otherwise you are bad". This could very easily have been a worgnakh thread.
"The LOTRO Store will offer convenience, not advantage." -Patience
"These pots are only available in the store and they are not available via crafting. Nor do we have any plans for this to change right now." -Frelorn
You thought CoS as your first skill vs a Warg is the way to go. You can't say anything about anyone pertaining to skill. Me? I'm amazing. On Warg and Mins...and pretty much any toon I touch.
Could you possibly be any more ignorant and near-sighted?
Tell me, how am I ignorant and near-sighted when all I spoke was the truth? That's how it is, people that pop cds against someone that doesnt are usually not very good players; its not rocket science... This thread indirectly was made to show that all freep classes can win without cds or bs skills. I havent qqed at all, I'm just simply pointin it out. If you have trouble winning on a freep in a fair way in this time and age, u need to delete ur toon. I have freeps as well, and have won 1v1s against good players many times without cds or being cheap.
Originally Posted by lordjimdudkiewicz
This is a very old creep refrain "play exactly the way I want you to, otherwise you are bad". This could very easily have been a worgnakh thread.
O hush up Aran, u were a terrible champ on Gladden, that's y u transfered cuz u were tired of gettin owned over here. I don't remember u having a creep; I love to see how u'd do 1v1 mr rock paper scissors, that's just an excuse for being bad. I would never stoop to the level of worgnakh, he is a garbage pos and is the epitome of what shouldnt be done in the moors. I'm not trying to say ur bad, I just know ur bad cuz popping cds against someone that doesnt=bad. I'm simply trying to help and make you better, tho in a harsh way because people are too dogmatic about the way they play, thus some shall not succeed, but its their prob, not mine.
Anyway, to all the insightful responses, particularly from the mins, I thank thee!
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I have to agree on plenty of points that PoliticallyIncorrect69 has made.
Just about every freep class can face roll a well played creep class, with the exception of hunters, loremasters and guardians.
I think its an interesting idea to see if a mini can kill with out healing, just like its interesting to see a defiler win without using flies or a burg with out using stealth/stuns. It's a challenge, and i didn't see the OP say EVERY mini has to do it, just if there are any who CAN do it. I'm quite sure it would be a good fight, seeing as with using heals and CD's no class really has a chance save p2w defilers, WL's or wargs. Not sure seeing as ive only ever beat a mini in a 1v1 with p2w flies. And if the mini is good, then the fight can last indefinitely. (ive had 40 min 1v1's where it went nowhere)
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I have to agree on plenty of points that PoliticallyIncorrect69 has made.
Just about every freep class can face roll a well played creep class, with the exception of hunters, loremasters and guardians.
I think its an interesting idea to see if a mini can kill with out healing, just like its interesting to see a defiler win without using flies or a burg with out using stealth/stuns. It's a challenge, and i didn't see the OP say EVERY mini has to do it, just if there are any who CAN do it. I'm quite sure it would be a good fight, seeing as with using heals and CD's no class really has a chance save p2w defilers, WL's or wargs. Not sure seeing as ive only ever beat a mini in a 1v1 with p2w flies. And if the mini is good, then the fight can last indefinitely. (ive had 40 min 1v1's where it went nowhere)
Finally, someone with a right mind . Idk tho man, good hunters do work against good creeps, tho they can be beaten obv. Same with lms. I honestly think guardians are op tho I have yet to fight any good ones on my server, but one I fight isn't great at all, but because of his audacity he is able to put up a decent fight. Imagine if he were good heh . Thankfully, all the good guards on my server are gone now lol. That auto stagger yet they have (which many dont use on my server for some reason) is really stupidly op, too, tho it only puts on the slow, it gives better access to the back if u were trying to deny positional to begin with. Took away all skill from OP stance guards imo.
Thx for having reading comprehension as well! I mean, if I were minstrel and I did wanna keep playin my min, and all I saw were other minnies spamming their op heals, I'd wanna try to find a different means to fight to make it fun for everyone, and keep winning, ofc hehe. Minnies spamming heals in 1v1s is the same example as shield spec wardens. A lot of people didn't know what good wardens could do till some innovators rose up and went dps spec. That's what more minnies need to do, least on my server, but w/e; I'll just know they are ezmoders like b4, aint gonna qq about it tho lol. Actually, the min I spoke about in my first post is starting to make progress. He apparently got a pretty decent rank 10 reaver down to 800 with the reaver having the outnumbered buff without healing really at all, so he is starting to learn and do better. Not using ur op heals is similar to learning to play better without cds; See what I'm saying?
Last edited by PoliticallyIncorrect69; Jul 06 2012 at 12:41 PM.
Update: I sparred a rank 14 reaver 5 times without using raise the spirit, chord of salvation or bolster courage. Won 4 out of 5. So to answer the OP, it's doable.
Tell me, how am I ignorant and near-sighted when all I spoke was the truth? That's how it is, people that pop cds against someone that doesnt are usually not very good players; its not rocket science... This thread indirectly was made to show that all freep classes can win without cds or bs skills. I havent qqed at all, I'm just simply pointin it out. If you have trouble winning on a freep in a fair way in this time and age, u need to delete ur toon. I have freeps as well, and have won 1v1s against good players many times without cds or being cheap.
O hush up Aran, u were a terrible champ on Gladden, that's y u transfered cuz u were tired of gettin owned over here. I don't remember u having a creep; I love to see how u'd do 1v1 mr rock paper scissors, that's just an excuse for being bad. I would never stoop to the level of worgnakh, he is a garbage pos and is the epitome of what shouldnt be done in the moors. I'm not trying to say ur bad, I just know ur bad cuz popping cds against someone that doesnt=bad. I'm simply trying to help and make you better, tho in a harsh way because people are too dogmatic about the way they play, thus some shall not succeed, but its their prob, not mine.
Anyway, to all the insightful responses, particularly from the mins, I thank thee!
Notice he doesn't try to argue that I'm wrong, only that I transferred away from a dead server. Have fun at the rez circle.
"The LOTRO Store will offer convenience, not advantage." -Patience
"These pots are only available in the store and they are not available via crafting. Nor do we have any plans for this to change right now." -Frelorn
Somewhere close to 10minis on BW can win 1v1s against all creep classes excluding wargs without healing and without getting really lucky crits. However ALL of those minis were skilled 1v1 before minis became OP and none of the new face roll minis can. FoTM hurts.
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Update: I sparred a rank 14 reaver 5 times without using raise the spirit, chord of salvation or bolster courage. Won 4 out of 5. So to answer the OP, it's doable.
Thank you for the response and data.
Originally Posted by lordjimdudkiewicz
Notice he doesn't try to argue that I'm wrong, only that I transferred away from a dead server. Have fun at the rez circle.
You were wrong, so there was nothing to argue. I just remember u were really bad, so I brought that up . Don't try to make excuses.
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Somewhere close to 10minis on BW can win 1v1s against all creep classes excluding wargs without healing and without getting really lucky crits. However ALL of those minis were skilled 1v1 before minis became OP and none of the new face roll minis can. FoTM hurts.
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. Idk tho man, good hunters do work against good creeps, tho they can be beaten obv. Same with lms. I honestly think guardians are op tho I have yet to fight any good ones on my server, but one I fight isn't great at all, but because of his audacity he is able to put up a decent fight. Imagine if he were good heh 
. Thankfully, all the good guards on my server are gone now lol. That auto stagger yet they have (which many dont use on my server for some reason) is really stupidly op, too, tho it only puts on the slow, it gives better access to the back if u were trying to deny positional to begin with. Took away all skill from OP stance guards imo.
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