Thread: Expansions

Hello.

I got a few questions about the expansions. I tried searching the internet, but didn't find many helpful things.

So, I'm a new player and subscriber. In the future, I plan on getting the expansions. There are currently three expansions (+ Rohan in September), right? You are able to buy them by paying real money or by using Turbine Points through the LOTRO Store system in game. The features in MoM, beside the quests, are: level cap to 60, the Rune-keeper and Warden classes and new instances. In the ingame Store, there are two options there is "Moria quest pack" and "Moria expansion pack". Obviously, the quest pack is only quests. My question here is, if I buy the "Moria expansion pack" through LOTRO Store, do I get /all/ features I would get if I bought the expansion by actual money? Do I get the extra classes, the legendary system, the level cap etc. This question is also for Rise of Isengard.

My 2nd question:
In LOTRO Store, there is only "Siege of Mirkwood quest pack", but there is no "Siege of Mirkwood expansion pack". Is that how's it supposed to be? So, if I buy Siege of Mirkwood quest pack, it's same as if I bought the expansion, since there isn't any extra stuff beside quests?

Also, I just read this in the RoR FAQ, which confused me even greatly:
You can purchase portions of the expansion separately with your Turbine Points in the LOTRO Store. These items will be released in the LOTRO Store on the same day as the expansion, September 5th. The prices are as follows:
Rohan Expansion Content: 4295 TP
Expansion Content includes the quests in the Rohan region.
Rohirrim Skinned Soldier on Landscape: 295 TP
6th Inventory Bag (Account-wide): 995 TP
Crystal of Remembrance: 995 TP
The Outriders Token: 495 TP

Now, if I buy Rohan Expansion Content, I don't get all the features, but only the quest pack? Or what?

So, to recap, if I buy "Mines of Moria Expansion Pack", "Mirkwood Quest Pack", "Rise of Isengard Expansion Pack" and in the future "Rohan Expansion Content (?)" in LOTRO Store, do I get all the features I would as if I bought it all by real money?

I saw that in the Turbine Store you can only buy RoI and pre-order RoR. There is no option for Mirkwood and Moria, so you can only buy those through the in game store then? And, if I buy RoI through LOTRO Store, do I get the base edition, or do I not get the mounts and extra stuff at all?

Sorry if these are stupid questions, but I really looked everywhere and only found things that made me even more confused. Also, if the question is no, you don't get some extra features, can someone tell me then where can I find the list of those extra features for every expansion?

Originally Posted by Yugo45

Hello.

I got a few questions about the expansions. I tried searching the internet, but didn't find many helpful things.

So, I'm a new player and subscriber. In the future, I plan on getting the expansions. There are currently three expansions (+ Rohan in September), right? You are able to buy them by paying real money or by using Turbine Points through the LOTRO Store system in game. The features in MoM, beside the quests, are: level cap to 60, the Rune-keeper and Warden classes and new instances. In the Store, there are two options there is "Moria quest pack" and "Moria expansion pack". Obviously, the quest pack is only quests. My question here is, if I buy the "Moria expansion pack" through LOTRO Store, do I get /all/ features I would get if I bought the expansion by actual money? Do I get the extra classes, the legendary system, the level cap etc. This question is also for Rise of Isengard.

if you buy MoM or RoI expansions from the store you get everything, although im not sure you get the RoI mount and title if you buy from the TP store.

if you can find a boxed copy of MoM you also get 30days of game time.
word of warning here: if you live in the EU do not purchase any copys of MoM you see in retail stores with a codemasters logo... afaik only codemasters boxed copys are still for sale in the EU, codemasters copys of MoM will not work with the new global system

last but not lest on expansions you do not need to purchase the expansions to reach lvl75

My 2nd question:
In LOTRO Store, there is only "Siege of Mirkwood quest pack", but there is no "Siege of Mirkwood expansion pack". Is that how's it supposed to be? So, if I buy Siege of Mirkwood quest pack, it's same as if I bought the expansion, since there isn't any extra stuff beside quests?

there is no longer an expansion pack for SoM.. the SoM expansion was withdrawn after F2P being as it was never anything more than an quest pack. but iirc if you buy the SoM quest pack youll get access to everything in Mirkwood

Also, I just read this in the RoR FAQ, which confused me even greatly:
You can purchase portions of the expansion separately with your Turbine Points in the LOTRO Store. These items will be released in the LOTRO Store on the same day as the expansion, September 5th. The prices are as follows:
Rohan Expansion Content: 4295 TP
Expansion Content includes the quests in the Rohan region.
Rohirrim Skinned Soldier on Landscape: 295 TP
6th Inventory Bag (Account-wide): 995 TP
Crystal of Remembrance: 995 TP
The Outriders Token: 495 TP

Now, if I buy Rohan Expansion Content, I don't get all the features, but only the quest pack? Or what?

the only way to get all of the items you listed with the RoR expansion you need to buy the legendary edition the "expansion content" is basicly the base edition here,
http://rohan.lotro.com/pre-order.html
all the other items are extras being introduced at the same time as RoR

So, to recap, if I buy "Mines of Moria Expansion Pack", "Mirkwood Quest Pack", "Rise of Isengard Expansion Pack" and in the future "Rohan Expansion Content (?)" in LOTRO Store, do I get all the features I would as if I bought it all by real money?

more or less yes
the 2 expansions for RoR and Roi have 3 different levels of expansion packs at various prices increasing with value the more items that are included
see here
http://store.turbine.com/store/turbi...oryID.58516200

The Moria expansion pack includes the quest pack, legendary item use, access to wardens and runekeepers, two extra character slots, and an increase in your skirmish trait maximum from 8 to 15. The same as if you bought the retail box in the store for money, though you'd get a 30 day VIP code too if you did buy the box. The level cap is 75 (soon to be 85) for all players for free, by the way.

There used to be a Mirkwood "expansion pack" which included the quest pack and a skirmish trait increase from 15 to 25. Right now these two things have to be bought separately.

The Isengard expansion pack includes the quest pack, the instance cluster, the Draigoch raid, and a skirmish trait increase to 35. This is the expansion pack in the LOTRO store. If you buy them with money from the Turbine market, I believe you get some extra goodies depending on which pack you buy. (FYI, if you buy the Isengard expansion you won't need to buy the Mirkwood skirmish trait increase too, it'll go right up to 35.)

The Rohan expansion pack is... unclear right now. If you buy the legendary pack with money, you will get the quest pack, instance cluster, 6th bag, and all the goodies you listed. Buying the base or heroic pack will get you different goodies, but still the quest pack and instances. If you want to buy with TP once it's released, I think the 4295 TP option is only the quest pack, not instances, but I don't believe this is confirmed or denied yet. Once the instances are available, they will probably sell an "expansion pack" with the quests and instances and etc etc, but no details yet.

Well, that cleared up a lot for me, thanks. I had a rough vision how it worked like, but I really wasn't too sure on anything because every single expansion had a different selling modul. So, basically, if I buy the expansions through the LOTRO Store I get everything beside maybe the titles and mounts and stuff like that, which I can buy through LOTRO Store separately? But, for example, in MoM I get the classes and all that big stuff. That makes sense.

Originally Posted by Yugo45

Well, that cleared up a lot for me, thanks. I had a rough vision how it worked like, but I really wasn't too sure on anything because every single expansion had a different selling modul. So, basically, if I buy the expansions through the LOTRO Store I get everything beside maybe the titles and mounts and stuff like that, which I can buy through LOTRO Store separately? But, for example, in MoM I get the classes and all that big stuff. That makes sense.

Part of the problem is that Moria and Mirkwood were released before the game was Free to Play. Isengard was released after. So there were a lot of different things that had to be decided on how to "translate" expansions into the new model.

Expansions often had perks you could only get if you pre-ordered. I have a Dusky Nimblefoot Goat on all my characters (present and future) which I am getting because I pre-ordered the Mirkwood expansion, back in the day when there WAS one. The upcoming Rohan expansion has some pre-order perks that you can only get if you buy it before September 5... and you cannot be sure they will offer them in the Store later.

When you buy an expansion through the Store, it is a collection of "stuff" that is also offered separately, but the bundle is definitely "cheaper" than the individual parts. When you pre-order an expansion with RL money you may get items that appear immediately (though you won't get the expansion until later) and that will not be available once the expansion is in the Store.

It's really up to you what method to use to buy expansions. (Well, except for Mirkwood which has evolved to be Store-only). If you want to buy Moria via a box, you need to move fast. All the Moria boxes were printed in 2008 and when they're gone, they're gone.

If you can afford it, buy the RoI Legendary package while it lasts - which is before July 9th. For $50 you get Isengard, Mirkwood and Moria expansions in one package.

Originally Posted by Malachi108

If you can afford it, buy the RoI Legendary package while it lasts - which is before July 9th. For $50 you get Isengard, Mirkwood and Moria expansions in one package.

dont you wish

unless theres a special offer on which ive not seen which includes the Expansions for all 3 then all ive seen is RoI legendary edition is being withdrawn on july 9th ie it will not longer be possible to buy it. but it looks like all the other RoI packs have been reduced except legendary

RoI legendary edition only contains the quest packs, you do not get any of the extras you would get from the Moria expansions.. you also get quest packs for trollshaws, lothlorien and eregion

but if your looking for quest packs only this is the best deal (imho)

Originally Posted by Finglonger_UK

RoI legendary edition only contains the quest packs, you do not get any of the extras you would get from the Moria expansions.. you also get quest packs for trollshaws, lothlorien and eregion

The RoI legendary edition contains ALL of Isenguard, and the Moria quest pack... plus some TPs. You could use those to buy the Warden and Runekeeper classes (assuming you are interested in both), plus the level cap upgrade for your soldier. That's all that's in the Moria expansion. This makes it quite a viable option.

Note also that the Rohan HEROIC (not Legendary) edition comes with some quest packs, though I think it's the same ones as in RoI legendary. If you are not planning to be VIP permanently, buying quest packs is definitely worth it.

Originally Posted by Yugo45

The features in MoM, beside the quests, are: level cap to 60, the Rune-keeper and Warden classes and new instances.

I think most of what you asked has been answered, but I'll add a comment on this piece since I didn't see it from anyone else. When Mines of Moria was first released, it raised the level cap to 60, but now everyone has the same level cap regardless of what expansions they do or don't have. So everyone's level cap is 75 now and will go up to 85 in September when Riders of Rohan is released, regardless of whether they have either MoM or RoR.

Originally Posted by Vilan

The Moria expansion pack includes the quest pack, legendary item use, access to wardens and runekeepers, two extra character slots, and an increase in your skirmish trait maximum from 8 to 15.

Don't legendary items come with the epic line that's open to everyone? I don't think you need to have Moria to get legendary items. Like skirmishes and the level cap raise to 60, legendary items are a feature that was added to the game along with the release of the Mines of Moria expansion, but isn't tied to having the expansion for a particular account.

Originally Posted by Niwashi

Don't legendary items come with the epic line that's open to everyone? I don't think you need to have Moria to get legendary items. Like skirmishes and the level cap raise to 60, legendary items are a feature that was added to the game along with the release of the Mines of Moria expansion, but isn't tied to having the expansion for a particular account.

That is correct. The Legendary Item system is open to everyone immediately once they complete Volume 2; Book 1; Chapter 9 of the Epic line, which can happen (technically) at Level 45.