I miss the good old day when pvping was at its best.. Now a days you got chumps that jump cliffs run into the one shotters.. i was under the impression that this was a pvp zone.. So i come out here to fight.
i guess i just have more pride than other to stand and fight.. oooh well if i was out played and died to another player. There is a button that says retreat so that i may do it again..
Yes, jumping cliffs and running to 1-shotters is lame, but it's been going on forever. The reason you're probably seeing more is b/c you're a mini. The most OP class atm. It is rare to see a mini lose a 1v1 and since minis are so stupidly easy to play and win with, many people are unwilling to give you renown, even if you legitimately deserve it.
ok lets clear this up because i am so tired of hearing people saying minnies are op i am heal traited ... I have other classes i play in the moors and no matter what class i am on they cliff jump..
ok lets clear this up because i am so tired of hearing people saying minnies are op i am heal traited ... I have other classes i play in the moors and no matter what class i am on they cliff jump..
May have to do with the fact that the only time you are alone is when you are leaving the rez by yourself?
Zerging P2W' winning mini complaining about people not trying to fight it?
Lets make a checklist here shall we..
1. Zerging Mini. Check.
2. Spam heals and waits for group to show if caught solo. Check.
3. Store brands and various other P2W stuff. Check.
4. Only time caught solo is when leaving the rez by itself.
I think I am the Cliffjumper you are so desperately crying about. Try for actual pvp and not faceroll and it won't happen as much. I learned from the best.
Yes, jumping cliffs and running to 1-shotters is lame, but it's been going on forever. The reason you're probably seeing more is b/c you're a mini. The most OP class atm. It is rare to see a mini lose a 1v1 and since minis are so stupidly easy to play and win with, many people are unwilling to give you renown, even if you legitimately deserve it.
May have to do with the fact that the only time you are alone is when you are leaving the rez by yourself?
Zerging P2W' winning mini complaining about people not trying to fight it?
Lets make a checklist here shall we..
1. Zerging Mini. Check.
2. Spam heals and waits for group to show if caught solo. Check.
3. Store brands and various other P2W stuff. Check.
4. Only time caught solo is when leaving the rez by itself.
I think I am the Cliffjumper you are so desperately crying about. Try for actual pvp and not faceroll and it won't happen as much. I learned from the best.
Pot and Kettle- check. You are absolutely no different.
Place was overrun with rats when we moved in. The spearwives killed the nasty buggers. Now the place is overrun with spearwives. There’s days I want the rats back~Dolorous Edd
I saw people run away from fights to the one-shotters in BR server just to avoid giving a KB on a very clear and legit fight (not like running a way from warg(s) camping the rez for a single person...) on a test server.
So you will see a lot of people doing it in live. Get used to it. Like corpsejumping, starhugging, ganking, wargpacks farming rezcircles, CM backstabs, etc.
Get used to it or forget about PvMP I would say :/
I miss the good old day when pvping was at its best.. Now a days you got chumps that jump cliffs run into the one shotters.. i was under the impression that this was a pvp zone.. So i come out here to fight.
i guess i just have more pride than other to stand and fight.. oooh well if i was out played and died to another player. There is a button that says retreat so that i may do it again..
Maybe CM would be a nice idea if you are looking for a certain standard in the encounters. Didn't see anyone running away or anything but I'm sure there are certain exceptions. Although I doubt there are Groups vs Group encounters there. I would love to see something like that but I'd most likely get destroyed. All other places I've learn to expect anything.
I have yet to see the above weaver "solo" unless solo with allies around. Not that I have a problem with that but I do have a problem with the said weaver saying things I know aren't true. I know the op rolls around solo in the moors. Solo as in alone, all by herself, ungrouped, not following the raid. I don't doubt that the spider does the same thing but I have yet to see it.
Running to one shots, cliff jumping, or using dying rage (not talking about the weaver with that one but plenty of others) hows it that "better" than using a store brand. It's just justifying an action. And frankly I don't have a problem with any of that. I do have a problem with someone flaming someone for one and not the other.
Sorry I didn't know minstrels weren't supposed to heal. Maybe wargs aren't supposed to pounce or use sprint. Maybe spiders should not burrow. Maybe defilers aren't supposed to drain power.
The Ops point, which almost every response in this thread has ignored, is that the moors isn't the same. And she is right. The place is very different now from 2007. The bulk of this change has been in just the last few months (or perhaps during the past summer, was gone for a few months). Flaming the op because you don't like store bought brands or you feel the need to defend a spider who from my point of view isn't any different, just justifies their actions because they don't like someone else, isn't going to change that.
And perhaps that is the heart of the problem- The spider only sees things from their perspective, you from yours, myself from my own and so on. Even though you play freepside occaisionally atm ( know you have a lot more in the past) or I play creep side occasionally our perspectives are limited.
I have had nothing but good times from chrys, her kin, and my own. I don't come to the moors just to fight other players or flip keeps. I don't play this game because I want to grind to 100 and swap out obsolete equipment every few months. I play this game because I love the idea of middle and because of people like the OP who go out of their way to help not just friends and kinnies, but many others, some of who don't appreciate and may not deserve it.
Place was overrun with rats when we moved in. The spearwives killed the nasty buggers. Now the place is overrun with spearwives. There’s days I want the rats back~Dolorous Edd
I know the op rolls around solo in the moors. Solo as in alone, all by herself, ungrouped, not following the raid. I don't doubt that the spider does the same thing but I have yet to see it.
ok lets clear this up because i am so tired of hearing people saying minnies are op i am heal traited ... I have other classes i play in the moors and no matter what class i am on they cliff jump..
Might want to consider re-traiting for something else if the OP is just healing herself. But that's the players decision of course.
Pot and Kettle- check. You are absolutely no different.
1. I was grouped up maybe 3 times on this server in the 2 months I been here - group of 2, 3, and 6( Was in blue TR fighting a larger # number of freeps)
2. Attempt to zerg me and I will call it out in OOC. At that point if you're gonna roll over me 4+ v 1 I am going to roll over you when the creep zerg I just called in shows up.
3. If you're not a zerglet; if I jumped you solo and someone else jumps in I stop attacking.
4. If you try for a free or easy kill, I will do anything I can to deny it.
No, I am pretty good at seeing from both sides. I almost never join in the map in zergs or any zerg for the matter(#2 is about the only time). Usually don't call people out. And I constantly call the zergers various names of the word zerglet and imform them on how they are ruining pvp and how they are bad. I know the pvp has gone down, it was much different when we came here in April. All it has been for the past month was zerg or npc hugging. Which is why you haven't seen me on a lot. And that is great and all that she is a nice person.. but continue to play the way she does people will continue to deny kbs/infamy all together. Rolling around in the normal group she does she doesn't ask for any fun pvp, just faceroll. She can be the nicest person in the world but that wasn't the original discussion.
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May have to do with the fact that the only time you are alone is when you are leaving the rez by yourself?
Zerging P2W' winning mini complaining about people not trying to fight it?
Lets make a checklist here shall we..
1. Zerging Mini. Check.
2. Spam heals and waits for group to show if caught solo. Check.
3. Store brands and various other P2W stuff. Check.
4. Only time caught solo is when leaving the rez by itself.
I think I am the Cliffjumper you are so desperately crying about. Try for actual pvp and not faceroll and it won't happen as much. I learned from the best.
This is so true I had to laugh. Minstrels never run away unless they are at disadvantage.
Frostbloodnakh has valid points which is why we are seing PVMP changing the way it is right now. Its a contribution of everyones actions that have made it what we see today.
Let these individuals bicker amongst themselves over which turbine item will grant them the most success.
Their justifications will be all for naught in the long run.
Let these individuals bicker amongst themselves over which turbine item will grant them the most success.
Their justifications will be all for naught in the long run.
Matter of opinion. A lot of people say the same thing, especially when challenged on their beliefs, opinions, or actions.
Labeling someone a "zerglet" in this game just makes a person feel justified in calling someone else out.
Denying anything you can for a kill is always a good thing. I don't have a problem with that. It's ok for you to do whatever you feel justified in doing, just not ok for someone else, that attitude won't serve anyone well.
Place was overrun with rats when we moved in. The spearwives killed the nasty buggers. Now the place is overrun with spearwives. There’s days I want the rats back~Dolorous Edd
Let these individuals bicker amongst themselves over which turbine item will grant them the most success.
Their justifications will be all for naught in the long run.
Yep and over there you will suffer from the same pompous cranial rectal inversion problem your post here illustrates. Have a nice day.
Place was overrun with rats when we moved in. The spearwives killed the nasty buggers. Now the place is overrun with spearwives. There’s days I want the rats back~Dolorous Edd
... Attempt to zerg me and I will call it out in OOC. At that point if you're gonna roll over me 4+ v 1 I am going to roll over you when the creep zerg I just called in shows up ... If you try for a free or easy kill, I will do anything I can to deny it.
All valid and perfectly fair points that you are just doing to them what they do to you. But you're so focused on winning the argument that you're missing the result. By being perfectly equal to what they are doing, you are acting perfectly equal to them instead of better. So the moors as a whole gets worse.
The original question asks, why were the good ol' days better than now? The answer is there were leaders who set an example by playing a certain way of respecting their opponent, and not sinking to the level of those "ruining PvP". If someone disrespects you, the answer isn't to get some petty revenge to teach them a lesson. The answer is you'll never force everyone to play the way you want. Have fun playing your way and hope people learn by example.
And I constantly call the zergers various names of the word zerglet and imform them on how they are ruining pvp and how they are bad.
I suggest try setting an example instead of name calling. This isn't kindergarten. Although Smegs groups feel like it most of the time.
All valid and perfectly fair points that you are just doing to them what they do to you. But you're so focused on winning the argument that you're missing the result. By being perfectly equal to what they are doing, you are acting perfectly equal to them instead of better. So the moors as a whole gets worse.
The original question asks, why were the good ol' days better than now? The answer is there were leaders who set an example by playing a certain way of respecting their opponent, and not sinking to the level of those "ruining PvP". If someone disrespects you, the answer isn't to get some petty revenge to teach them a lesson. The answer is you'll never force everyone to play the way you want. Have fun playing your way and hope people learn by example.
I suggest try setting an example instead of name calling. This isn't kindergarten. Although Smegs groups feel like it most of the time.
Nice post, Sniz. I would give you some rep but it says I need to spread some around or something.
All valid and perfectly fair points that you are just doing to them what they do to you. But you're so focused on winning the argument that you're missing the result. By being perfectly equal to what they are doing, you are acting perfectly equal to them instead of better. So the moors as a whole gets worse.
The original question asks, why were the good ol' days better than now? The answer is there were leaders who set an example by playing a certain way of respecting their opponent, and not sinking to the level of those "ruining PvP". If someone disrespects you, the answer isn't to get some petty revenge to teach them a lesson. The answer is you'll never force everyone to play the way you want. Have fun playing your way and hope people learn by example.
I suggest try setting an example instead of name calling. This isn't kindergarten. Although Smegs groups feel like it most of the time.
I bet guys like Kid and ANV got crushed in openworld full loot pvp games like Shadowbane/Darkfall and rolled on LOTRO using every single advantage they could.
Yep and over there you will suffer from the same pompous cranial rectal inversion problem your post here illustrates. Have a nice day.
Either my persona or my honesty offends you. You can tell me which.
At the end of the day, pay to win, was the start of the end for this game. It's your game - your money.
However, I would not be bold in calling you blind for not seeing the effect TP items have on opposing players.
(Waltonincombatbrand not talking of you specifically but creep/freeps as a whole)
Justify your actions should you feel the need to.
I know i'll be playing a game where real money does not impact the outcome of a battle.
Either my persona or my honesty offends you. You can tell me which.
Now back to being Sazh Chiptooth, God.
Your persona I guess. Both your posts come across as ranting from a stuck up idiot looking down their nose at everyone else who doesn't think, act, or believe just like he does.
If you are a god it is one of arrogance, nothing more.
Place was overrun with rats when we moved in. The spearwives killed the nasty buggers. Now the place is overrun with spearwives. There’s days I want the rats back~Dolorous Edd
Your persona I guess. Both your posts come across as ranting from a stuck up idiot looking down their nose at everyone else who doesn't think, act, or believe just like he does.
If you are a god it is one of arrogance, nothing more.
I sometimes go fishing and purposely forget my bait.
I like to see how many fish I can catch with just a plain hook.
You thought it was mere coincidence Sazh and Worgnakh took a 1month break at the exact same time?
Do not doubt me for I am Sazhnakh, God of all freeps and creeps.
No your just an &&&&&&&. Period.
Place was overrun with rats when we moved in. The spearwives killed the nasty buggers. Now the place is overrun with spearwives. There’s days I want the rats back~Dolorous Edd
Matter of opinion. A lot of people say the same thing, especially when challenged on their beliefs, opinions, or actions.
Labeling someone a "zerglet" in this game just makes a person feel justified in calling someone else out.
Denying anything you can for a kill is always a good thing. I don't have a problem with that. It's ok for you to do whatever you feel justified in doing, just not ok for someone else, that attitude won't serve anyone well.
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