Thread: Warsteeds and pets

common dmg enough said

My opinion for the best solution for the Captain:

Attach banner of choice to the Warsteed.
Designate 'x-brother' toggle to the Warsteed.

Originally Posted by josebe16

if your a maxed out cappy running with a pet as the game is right now your just gimping your dps

Um, you need a target for Blade-brother, if solo that's the common use for the Herald. You do not gain more dps from a banner than you do from full reflect of MoW Capstone...

Well there 4 skills the LM uses that require pet. 2 are just for the Pet sign of the Wild Rage and Sign of wild Protection. Inner Flame which heals you and the pet and sign of battle Wizard Fire. Which use right it can heal when a pet flanks. There also other skills That can be use with the pet as well as other players.

But I agree a pet needed in mounted combat. Depending on what they do in Mounted combat. They could set the pet in the center of combat.

Average Horse speed 16 to 17 mph. (Race horses tend to be Faster up to 45 to 55mph)
lynx 20 to 35mph
Sabertooth cat Suggested speed 25 to 35mph
Black Bears 15 to 30mph Depends on the Size of the Bear Youth bears tend to run faster then large bear. Larger bears tend to use str vs speed.
Hawk can fly around 40mph
Eagle can fly 20 to 60mph dive 100 mph.

So just doing a little research. Shows Any real animal (Bear, lynx, Sabertooth, Black bear, Hawk, Eagle, can run about the same as a horse or faster, (Boglucker and Nature-friend unknown)

I would think our light ball could move at what ever speed it wanted too.

I think...pets/banners will alltogether be removed during mounted combat, i do believe turbine said we will be able to apply buffs to our mounts, and they might work a little like a led wep (gems runes etc. that can boost your skills morale whatever)

Originally Posted by OruiFarimur

I think...pets/banners will alltogether be removed during mounted combat, i do believe turbine said we will be able to apply buffs to our mounts, and they might work a little like a led wep (gems runes etc. that can boost your skills morale whatever)

Well I have not heard of turbine saying any such thing so please don't state any facts unless you can back them up.

Originally Posted by Celt_Ainvar

Well I have not heard of turbine saying any such thing so please don't state any facts unless you can back them up.

i would link you to the forum i saw them post it on if i could remember which thread it was, they said we will be able to customize the abilities of our warsteeds. and "rank" them up. i dont have time, but if you want browse through the threads and see if you can find info, i know i saw someone from turbine say something along the lines of "you will be able to rank up your warsteed, customize appearance and manage special abilities and buffs"

Originally Posted by Silverangel

Favorite skill in the entire game. Missing pets shouldn't be an issue since the mounted skills of every class are new and independent from your non-mounted skills, so they can be re-balanced to account for not having your pet. A LM getting dismounted in combat, on the other hand, could be a source of player rage.

That is what I was thinking, if I get dismounted , will my horse still be there or will it be like other pets and have to be recalled. Like others are saying we will have to see.. Can't wait to see how they handle this. Someone said that the LM doesn't have to be pet dependent and that is true running the red trait line , which I'm sure we have all done at one time, but I prefer to stay in the background although I miss the fun of the ent stomp from march of the ents. (was just really fun to see ) I won't rage if I have to rearrange and relearn, but I sure would miss those bees. We will just see.

Originally Posted by OruiFarimur

i would link you to the forum i saw them post it on if i could remember which thread it was, they said we will be able to customize the abilities of our warsteeds. and "rank" them up. i dont have time, but if you want browse through the threads and see if you can find info, i know i saw someone from turbine say something along the lines of "you will be able to rank up your warsteed, customize appearance and manage special abilities and buffs"

I believe this is refering to the fact that we are supposed to get skills and such for out mounts. Similar to the Legendary Items we have now. Only we will get to customize the appearance as well, supposedly.

Originally Posted by brina_22

I believe this is refering to the fact that we are supposed to get skills and such for out mounts. Similar to the Legendary Items we have now. Only we will get to customize the appearance as well, supposedly.

I have to agree with you Brina. They are talking about Mounts. Not LM or Captain Pets.

For the people who say LM pet not needed. Then you truly do not understand power of a LM and their pet and how to use them to be useful. I can play the LM with or with out a pet. But to be the best solo LM the Pet is required. To battle more then one Monster at a time. My Avg. is 3 or 4 Monsters at once depending on the skills I am useing.

Not sure but I think we can be knock off the Warsteed in combat. Which leaves the LM or Captain alone. At least the captain can use banner while solo combat. Unless a LM has Boglurker We can not summon a pet while in combat.

Originally Posted by Celt_Ainvar

For the people who say LM pet not needed. Then you truly do not understand power of a LM and their pet and how to use them to be useful. I can play the LM with or with out a pet. But to be the best solo LM the Pet is required. To battle more then one Monster at a time. My Avg. is 3 or 4 Monsters at once depending on the skills I am using.

Not sure but I think we can be knock off the War-steed in combat. Which leaves the LM or Captain alone. At least the captain can use banner while solo combat. Unless a LM has Bog-lurker We can not summon a pet while in combat.

Problem is your assuming things that we don't know at all. First your assuming that Mounted Combat will be exactly like unmounted combat. I'm assuming it won't be exactly like unmounted combat. But either way, so far, no-one has any evidence to support any claim. I do have a LM and I actually prefer almost full blue line. I also prefer passive combat letting either my bear tank or a Bog-Lurker tank/dps. I still believe we will not have any pets out WHILE riding. If we get dismounted then I see our pet popping out just as it does now when we get dismounted (For LMs and Captains).

But in my learned opinion, the focus of Mounted Combat will be largely, if not completely, different from Unmounted Combat. Therefore combat will be more Mounted focused and less similar to current combat dynamics. Your pet will still be summoned, it simply will be in the "Waiting Room" all pets go to when your mounted. And yes it most likely will require everyone to take a little time to get used to a (slightly) different form of combat in order to learn Mounted Combat.

Are you not doing the same thing Ryvick? Thinking we will not have pets while mounted or
assuming that Mounted Combat will be so different every single skill be different? What I know some skills will stay the same. But some skills will change during mounted combat. We will have New task bars for Mounted combat. That base off watching the Video of people who work for Turbine/WB who talk about ROR.

Even looking at the mounted combat preview videos. We only see classes that have swords or bows. Which put the LM and Captain in that unknown mystery.

Originally Posted by Killien

That's a bit extreme. Bows are main weapons, pets are not..

Have you actually leveled a Lore-Master?

I have, 2 current level 75s and in the past a third 75 and one at 60 when that was the cap. Every one of them majored using the pet, they did the LM's main group task and supported the pet.

I always assumed when i first heard about mounted combat that our normal skills would not be used. It seems like it would be easier to program a new set of kills for mounted combat, that way all classes can have balanced new sets so they won't technically miss their old skills while mounted and in-combat. Also like our mounts now, I assume the pets and normal skills would return when you get knocked off or demount yourself. Maybe you can't get knocked off and the act of being defeated is what brings you down instead.

That seems like the most logical option imo, however if we could use our normal skills in combat also, i would be very impressed they went down that route. In which case i would assume we either get a new pet that is only suitable for riding alongside a war steed or our normal pets just magically get a speed boost

in this vid you can have a little sneak peek of how captain mounted combat will look like:

Thanks for the video , don't know why I didn't see that before, even though I've looked, but not lately. So, on my LM I can imagine it, I sit on my horse and debuff, hit with something like LotRd, ride by and smack him in the head with my staff strike, Mez, horse kicks him in the face and he's dead.. J/K but it was fun to imagine, really just can't wait to see.

I don't know about the rest of you, but when RoR releases I'm going to buy the sidecar from the store so my bear can ride beside me, and I'll equip him with a nice pair of goggles to make him look cool. Now the challenge is just training him to fire a shotgun over the next couple of months.

Seriously though, I want to have at least one of my pets out with me over the plains of Rohan, even if it has to be one of the flying ones.

Originally Posted by Kerin_Eldar

Have you actually leveled a Lore-Master?

I have, 2 current level 75s and in the past a third 75 and one at 60 when that was the cap. Every one of them majored using the pet, they did the LM's main group task and supported the pet.

Yes I have an LM, in my sig.

Sorry, but the comparison between pets and bows is pretty dumb. The LM is a pet class and it can be played many different ways, sure. Whatever your play style however, if we don't have out pet for whatever reason we still have a myriad of skills to help us survive. Is it optimal? No. Take away a hunters bow and he's nigh on useless... 4-5 melee skills... and Desperate Flight of course.

You can see just at the end of the clip with Aaron playing there, he gets dismounted and his usual skill bars re-appear. I'll wager that's when our pets will re-materialise too, just as with normal mounts.

Originally Posted by Killien

Sorry, but the comparison between pets and bows is pretty dumb.

Well, yes. Although my Lynx is a better fighter than I am. We were out in Annuminas the other day potting Angmarim for a deed. I'd send the Lynx at one and target the next one myself. He would kill his with just Surprise Attack plus basic teeth-and-claws faster than I would kill mine with six or seven skills.

You can see just at the end of the clip with Aaron playing there, he gets dismounted and his usual skill bars re-appear. I'll wager that's when our pets will re-materialise too, just as with normal mounts.

Did it? Good. I could not see that happen, the darned cameraperson didn't give us a close enough view.

This way, I can at least *imagine* that Sebastian is riding before me on my saddle-bow.

Originally Posted by djheydt

Did it? Good. I could not see that happen, the darned cameraperson didn't give us a close enough view.

This way, I can at least *imagine* that Sebastian is riding before me on my saddle-bow.

Queue to 5:14-5:15, you'll see him get dismounted (with a nice horse roll animation I'll add) and his skill bars pop back up.

Originally Posted by Killien

Queue to 5:14-5:15, you'll see him get dismounted (with a nice horse roll animation I'll add) and his skill bars pop back up.

So they do; thanks. My vision these days is no better than it might be.

I didn't see his Squire pop up again, though. Perhaps he wasn't using him.

Make it happen.