Thread: War leader healing

I'm gonna throw this in the suggestion box also but wanted to know what you guys think of it.

Healing on a war leader is one of the most annoying classes to heal on, you have 2 main heals with very short cool downs and the other 2 are 3-5 minutes depending on traits and require decent rank or pay to win.

These 2 heals have inductions and trying to get them off while 1 thing is beating on you is really hard and usually in a fight it's more than 1 thing hitting you so...

What they recently gave us with roi is a trained buff buff that makes your next heal induction-less but requires you to crit on a shout for it, I atm have only 2 shouts and lack 1 which I'm soon to get and maybe it's the ason I'm Qqing here but I don't think it'll make that big a difference.

We have 2 stances of choice, one stance cuts our healing but let's puts our shouts on a shorter cd also making our aoe heal always induction less and on the move( but because of the stance it's only a heal of about 1k max). Another that upgrades our heals but everything has an induction.

I suggest while in commander stance ( the one that upgrades heals ) we can have one of our 2 heals ( most likely the single target one so it's not super op) immune to induction set backs. I think every freep healer has a skill or trait that allows them a skill or skills that have immunity to set backs so it's not like what I'm asking for is unfair.

I TANK RAIDS

SU*K IT UP

That is one mean looking warleader.

Nyyx, as for it being P2W in most cases id agree, BA, Warg, Spider and Rvr sure its P2W, however its not so for WL its Pay to Compete, your WL is R7 waiting out the 3rd shout isnt an issue, i wouldnt waste the TP on it. However waiting till 9 for uruk heal and quitters, then even later for key banners and traits is senesless on a WL, hit the store. IMO @ R8 my WL has EVERTHING I consider of use, and really feels like they wanted me to hit R15 to feel 1/2 way useful? screw that! hit the store.


Even with store help there's some serious issues with the WL, MID-LVL Finesse is horrible when dealing with tact classes and Cpts, will is still tied to fear resist and muster courage fear buff i get tons of resists. Creep tact DPS is a joke we all know this, is hard to build decent crit on a creep(actually we get little chance to build crit) making it a bit harder to make use of the free cast heal with crit on shouts and if you use force crit its delayed and requires you to select yourself or no target at times(consider this my 1000000 tix on the issue). dont get me started on a gated slow...Healing needs some love no doubt, however im kinda on the fence on how it should be handled people want bigger heals, some want quicker CDs and cast times...


how to address these issues IMO:

Making some of the skills we'd so call P2W to get, lower ranks alot lower.

Brawlers stance should have a finesse bonus that scales along side BF promotions.

Fracture should interupt in brawlers stance and AoE KD(8-10s) upto 5 targets in Commanders stance.

Remove the Crit gating on intimidating shout slow, make it a Enhanced IS skill at a rank4-7.

Quitters should be 5 mins CD no trait needed. Traited fellowship gets a 1.5k temp morale bubble, and the power gain is upped from 900(wow!) to 1500.

Traited menacing Roar should also include +2 targets and 15s AoE slow -50% movment speed, +15% attack duration.

WL Base Tact DPS needs to be doubled at a minimum, and for the love of Sauron can we finally ditch ALL common damage and give WLs melee shadow.

Originally Posted by PureEvil-Lotro

Nyyx, as for it being P2W in most cases id agree, BA, Warg, Spider and Rvr sure its P2W, however its not so for WL its Pay to Compete, your WL is R7 waiting out the 3rd shout isnt an issue, i wouldnt waste the TP on it. However waiting till 9 for uruk heal and quitters, then even later for key banners and traits is senesless on a WL, hit the store. IMO @ R8 my WL has EVERTHING I consider of use, and really feels like they wanted me to hit R15 to feel 1/2 way useful? screw that! hit the store.


Even with store help there's some serious issues with the WL, MID-LVL Finesse is horrible when dealing with tact classes and Cpts, will is still tied to fear resist and muster courage fear buff i get tons of resists. Creep tact DPS is a joke we all know this, is hard to build decent crit on a creep(actually we get little chance to build crit) making it a bit harder to make use of the free cast heal with crit on shouts and if you use force crit its delayed and requires you to select yourself or no target at times(consider this my 1000000 tix on the issue). dont get me started on a gated slow...Healing needs some love no doubt, however im kinda on the fence on how it should be handled people want bigger heals, some want quicker CDs and cast times...


how to address these issues IMO:

Making some of the skills we'd so call P2W to get, lower ranks alot lower.

Brawlers stance should have a finesse bonus that scales along side BF promotions.

Fracture should interupt in brawlers stance and AoE KD(8-10s) upto 5 targets in Commanders stance.

Remove the Crit gating on intimidating shout slow, make it a Enhanced IS skill at a rank4-7.

Quitters should be 5 mins CD no trait needed. Traited fellowship gets a 1.5k temp morale bubble, and the power gain is upped from 900(wow!) to 1500.

Traited menacing Roar should also include +2 targets and 15s AoE slow -50% movment speed, +15% attack duration.

WL Base Tact DPS needs to be doubled at a minimum, and for the love of Sauron can we finally ditch ALL common damage and give WLs melee shadow.

You're such a carebear...ezmode!

If they did ALL of those things, WL would be the new fotm.

IMO, war leaders were never suppose to of been a healing class, they just need a couple more buffs such as bubble puts a smaller effect(like mayby 20-30%) on everyone in the fellowship if traited and give them a 10% physical mitigation and tactical mitigation banners to make them better in a group situation then and make it easier to keep themselves alive in a group situation

Nerf Purukhai, he doesn't need heals cos he never heals me and he's a noob.

Insert broken record...set the needle...and turn on the turntable:

A WL who spends an equivalent time to a Freep going from L1 to L75, gearing, and traiting, will be competative.

We can all name names of those WLs who have done this and they are VERY competative with most matchups.

Originally Posted by Thane9

Insert broken record...set the needle...and turn on the turntable:

A WL who spends an equivalent time to a Freep going from L1 to L75, gearing, and traiting, will be competative.

We can all name names of those WLs who have done this and they are VERY competative with most matchups.

OK this is only 3 sentences.
Who is this and what have you done with the real Luc !!!!

Originally Posted by robc73usa

OK this is only 3 sentences.
Who is this and what have you done with the real Luc !!!!

No kidding.