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    gambit to weapon help

    so im confused i have a bunch of gambits that require fist but i cant generate that my guess is because im using a sword instead of spear which seem to be the mainstay weaps for wardens. do i have to use a spear to use most of my gambits?

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    To make gambits you have to use your three base skills.
    • Spear
    • Shield
    • Fist
    It doesn't matter what weapon you have equiped. Every gambit is usable with each weapon.

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    If you cant build threat your probably in the wrong stance. Determination is the only tanking stance we have and the only one that builds threat now.

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    Warden help

    The term fist applies to the skill Warden's Taunt. It doesn't matter what weapon you are using, (though I personally prefer a spear) you can do any gambit you've trained for. If you notice your gambit panel when you do Warden's Taunt, it puts a fist icon in there. So if you do the skill Warden's Taunt twice, which would be two fist icons in your gambit panel, you'll get the fist gambit Goad. On that note any gambit you start with Warden's Taunt is considered a fist gambit. Also any gambit you start with Quick Thrust is a spear gambit, and any gambit you start with Shield-bash is a shield gambit. It might take a while to get used to these skills and gambits, give it time, don't get frustrated, a Warden is a very handy class to have on any playing field as they are very versatile.

    Just a few things to keep in mind:
    You're filling your gambit panel with icons to make a gambit so know what you're putting in there and what the gambit does.
    Be sure to pay attention to what stance you are in, (Determination, Recklessness, or Assailment) and how that effects your gambits.
    Think ahead for what skills you need. Are you tanking, dpsing, or filling a supporting role?

    Hopefully this helps you, it's great to see warden's out there. Especially ones who understand how to play the class.

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    Sounds to me like you haven't traited for your Fist Masteries.

    You need two Class traits in the Fist line to enable the Fist Masteries.

    I know I didn't have my first masteries till I had 5 class trait slots, then you can go with 5 of one trait line which enables all three masteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medicvalues View Post
    so im confused i have a bunch of gambits that require fist but i cant generate that my guess is because im using a sword instead of spear which seem to be the mainstay weaps for wardens. do i have to use a spear to use most of my gambits?
    You should always be able to use the Fist builder, even if you dont have a weapon equipped (ie you're Disarmed, or your weapon broke...). The only time you cant use the Fist builder is when you're Silenced, or of course stunned/dazed/knocked down/cowering...

    The masteries, however (Fist+Spear and Fist+Shield) do require you to have sufficient traits in the correct traitlines to activate. I think its 2 in Fist or 4 in Spear/Shield, IIRC...

    But you should always be able to build gambits that include a Fist icon by using the manual Fist builder.
    Droid's Combo-button Mastery for Wardens (AHK script): http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...button-Mastery

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