Thread: @ Arise
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Jun 27 2012 07:13 PM #41
Heres the situation... Tennis spys. He did before we recruited him, and he does now. He spys LESS now he is in Arise, and it rarely affects our gameplay, as I said. I'm not going to kick him out because in the end it's his choice. I understand that associating with a "cheater" makes us all "cheaters" (Its funny, cause you don't realise how little it actually changes our gameplay), and I will wear this. What I stive to do is teach Tennis that he doesn't need to spy to achieve the same results we already do. I know it won't stop you QQers blaming everything on him even when it does stop, but this way will be the best for his kin and his haters. We will discourage spying, but as a friend we stick by him.
Tennis IS king.
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Jun 27 2012 07:56 PM #42
Usually it's actually a good thing. So many times I wish I could communicate with the creeps and tell them where we are, if I can't find them.
I don't mind spying, at all. The only time it matters is when a tiny group is trying to ninja a keep. But then, that's just PVE. Come fight PVP if there are creeps about!
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Jun 27 2012 09:38 PM #43
Hate to tell you this but his actions make your whole kin look bad. He spied before he joined Arise so.......why did you invite him to your kin if you have a problem with it? You keep saying he is spying less. Not true. Lets take tonight. He was on his captain and his burglar/guardian and he was on a creep. Which brings up another poor sportsmanship that he does. He sits on a second account inside TR to protect it from us ninjaing it, even when you guys are farming lug rezz. That is lame and people don't like that. You also keep saying you don't use his spying to your advantage. That is also not true. The last few times we were either in HH or TA and we see his warg in stealth (tell the poor guy to buy traited stealth so it makes it harder to see him at least) the Aris crew comes running in seconds later. Guess that's not helping you is it?

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Jun 27 2012 09:57 PM #44
So this goes back to the original post... Did this happen over the weekend? Was it at TR? I was in the raid defending TR and we were running around in circles trying to find you creeps, and I remember seeing you in the group we were fighting. It was wired we kept running right into you guys at weird places. (I say wired because I am not yet used to being in a raid that just runs in giant circles) but we did find you guys, many times and in many places. I was on my rk and I know rubble killed me at least 6 times.
As for the rest of it, I am just trying to have fun out there... Sometimes I kill you, sometimes you kill me. It happens. And melywen... I hate those stupid flies
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I have been trying my hand at creepside... You are correct my friend. It is rough. But I am sure that when my /played for my creep approaches the /played time on my freep, I will be much tougher.
Just a side note... I critted on you with my coda of fury (tooltip says 1100-1800 damage) the other night, for 780 damage!!! I had to LOL.
Cyas out there Elda
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Jun 27 2012 10:17 PM #45
Hi, cuties! Hugs to everyone on both sides!
I think it's especially cute that Tennis spying and Rubble DR'ing was used in the same sentence. Oh wait, did they add spying as a skill? Oops, my bad :Þ And stop using DR, Rubble. When you hover over the skill, don't you see the box that comes up that says "YOU MUST NEVER USE THIS, IT'S ONLY HERE TO LOOK PRO?"
Also, Lozgath is awesome heals. Remember that when you are a 75 freep, your skills are all there! Heals and all! Loz had to work for his awesome heals! He's died a ton along the way, I'm sure!
It is also easy to say that either side has a huge raid and it's simply a couple groups running around together with followers but this is just the same in many ways. Still an overwhelming number. I know for a fact, and am not saying this to stick up for Rubble, but you don't know that he has said many times "let's go do this, or check for freeps over here" to get away from large groups of creeps if there seems to be too many. Neither side can help followers, but try to map out and break off from them if they are too clingy. TMR/APATHY is called elitist because we are a regular group of friends that play together and we can rely on one another to play their class how we should to be as effective as possible? This means I'm elitist. I heal everyone I possibly can, grouped with me or not.
And, it's easy to say Tennis calling out creeps is happening less, you must mean this in OOC. You don't know what he tells his groups or kin in other chats. Spying just means you're selfish and you want easy points. All the times I've said anything about my location in OOC on creepside, Tennis has shown up with a much bigger group than needed to kill me in his own NPCs. Continue to enjoy your easy kills, continue to build up your fabulous reputation.
No point in telling people to think about the imbalance and to try to make things okay. There will always be people who don't care. I adore you all, stop being mean. It also doesn't hurt to play more on the side you're complaining about to see how it is for them also. And if you are unhappy with how they play, try to switch over, encourage and help them start something new! Silverlode is not junkie PvP, it's just not to your liking! You can transfer somewhere else and find the same PvP but just with more numbers! Enjoy!
Tons of hugs!
Glammie
P.S. I heal for cupcakes.
“It is better to be hated for who you are, than to be loved for someone you are not.”
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Jun 27 2012 10:23 PM #46
"So this goes back to the original post... Did this happen over the weekend? Was it at TR? I was in the raid defending TR and we were running around in circles trying to find you creeps, and I remember seeing you in the group we were fighting. It was wired we kept running right into you guys at weird places. (I say wired because I am not yet used to being in a raid that just runs in giant circles) but we did find you guys, many times and in many places"
-First of all thanks a lot for read the oringinal post and respond to the original post, Thanks easie, i really appreciate what you did here because you are backing up what i was trying to say in the original post, we move around the map a lot and like you said your group always find us, its not needed to be a rocket scientist or einstein to tell what is going on here :P
PD: If any wanna reply do yourself a favor and read the original post first and pay attention, so you dont reply a nonsene blabla.Last edited by Eldacarion; Jun 27 2012 at 10:26 PM.

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Jun 27 2012 10:51 PM #47
Really Apathy scolding Arise?
Until your Apathy freep players dismount from their horses and fight Apathy creeps instead of just watching them waste other freeps you really should push away from the keyboard, ask mom to bring a nice sammitch down to your room in the basement and think about the meaning of hypocrisy...

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Jun 27 2012 10:56 PM #48Glam I like most people in Apathy and TMR seems good to me people wise but the refusal of the 2 kins to kill each other imo leads to a big part of the criticism, as well as also hurting PvP. I was running from rez one day and saw Rubble and a couple other TMR killing a lone freep while a couple Apathy rode away. If Apathy had stayed and fought it would have been a fair, probably fun fight, but instead it was just another zerg. So this hurting pvp thing goes both ways.TMR/APATHY is called elitist

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Jun 27 2012 11:15 PM #49
Ha what happend asa did you die? even when you only come when the creeps have the outnumbered buff? haha you sound mad btw, its a game dude dont take it personal lol and btw, try to comment to the oringinal post otherwise is just nonsense blabla.

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Jun 27 2012 11:19 PM #50
People can attack and not attack when they want. Those APATHY members did not have to help, might not have liked the person even, and are under no obligation to help. This goes for anyone. When I first started playing in the Moors, I would die amongst a group of people and wonder why did they not help me! Then I've learned, you can't expect anyone to help you out there. I always just assume I'm alone. Even in group, you can't completely rely on each other because CC or something might stop them from being able to get to you. I am not reading this silly thread anymore, just goes on and on and on fighting over the same things. I tried to stick up for my friends and it just ends up being a bunch of 6 year old girls pulling each other's pony tails and crying.

“It is better to be hated for who you are, than to be loved for someone you are not.”
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Jun 27 2012 11:29 PM #51
I agree, no one can be forced to do anything. I play out of group almost exclusively and don't ever expect heals. The point though is I've seen comments from people in TMR and Apathy about wanting good pvp, there being too much zerging and spying hurting the Moors, but you can't then turn around and say "but our 2 kins can refuse to fight each other and that's part of the game but what you're doing is wrong and should stop." Spying and 2 kins refusing to fight each other both hurt pvp imo and I've seen specific examples of both things hurting pvp. I never say anything about either thing in the Moors because it's not gonna change by talking about it, but in the context of this thread it seemed like a good time to bring it up.
Like I said, I like the people in Apathy and TMR, I just think the refusal to fight thing is pretty silly if you're wanting better pvp in the Moors.
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Jun 28 2012 12:18 AM #52
You are talking about like 2 people in the moors and not to mention these 2 people are solo. I don't care who you are when I see someone that I know is running around solo and I am in a group I let them go after we kill them once or twice at the most. It's just no fun for people to get killed over and over when they are solo.
Who said anything about zerging not being ok? Zerg all you want. Just try not to make a raid before you know if there is a raid to fight or not. Also, if you have the advantage then push. So what if you die. If you can get some kills it's all good. I just have a problem with people that have the advantage and never push or make raids when they are not needed. It really ruins the moors.Last edited by bambam21; Jun 28 2012 at 12:24 AM.

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Jun 28 2012 12:25 AM #53
When I'm around my kinmates on the other side I usually try to move away from them.
BTW how's that flop / df working for you? Not very good lately. Guess they nerfed your hunter again. Somebody came over to creep side and was laughing at you because I guess you were raging how Turbine nerfed your hunter again. Also I remember when you were in apathy you use to have a creep logged on while you were playing your freep. Tisk tisk tiskLast edited by bambam21; Jun 28 2012 at 01:45 AM.

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Jun 28 2012 12:42 AM #54
why not Elda take lead at creepside and tell them how to pvp

You can't stop ppl what to do, if you're going to small group, you know you ll get blown with bigger numbers or even heavy healing group. All you need is 7 Bas + 5 wargs combo to wipe them. And how many of the ungroup creeps going to push with you? How many freeps willing to stop his cowardness from hiding at npcs?
All servers have its own problems, too zergy, we rage quit; no creeps/freeps willing to fight, we still rage quit. Lotro pvp has been like that since MoM.
If Tennis tells you that he ll stop spying, do you really trust him? Heck, I d even think the random greenie is his alt.
Leave Tennis and his kin alone, becos everyone or every kins have baddies in there.
People spying, farming, 6boxing, flipping, etc. It happens everywhere, anytime.
Go to play at other servers when pvp gets bad, Elda. That's what I do all the time.
Amily [Minstrel] Ayashi
Patata [Weaver] Kissmebaby
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Jun 28 2012 03:03 AM #55
Arise???... just easy kills... the only way they can play is in group becouse they suck on hes toons...

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Jun 28 2012 03:26 AM #56
Should of heard Asahearts rage quit today i LAUGHED sooo hard after hearing he Deleted Goodmap to GV LOL....He needs to learn to play his class solo and maybe then he wouldnt get the reputation he does...the hole "imma flop and DF" needs to go and learn how to enjoy the game...When you cant enjoy it leave because your crying only hurts you. Yet he spies just as much as Tennis..And asahearts dont lie about not doing it because youve admitted to it to much.
So Arise is a spying Kinship...Ill make sure to jump on everyones body a little extra more tomorrow <3
And to those that get QQing on and on about me corpse jumping...If you cant play around and take jokes and rage about it maybe this game isnt for you...Maybe Hello kitty online would be more your speed that Howd you say it asahearts.? "Turbine needs to get their head out of their digestive tract and fix the game."
Nope, we did have warleaders but their class role has changed to cheerleader.
Godhelm of Nimrodel | Winner! Maggotmeat has won the match against Thejuggernaut.
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Jun 28 2012 07:30 AM #57
I'll repost what I said before and highlight the important stuff:
Arise is a PvE kin and is pretty relaxed about PvMP. We have yet to schedule a PvMP "event". When we do group up for PvMP, we let people bring whatever class they want, traited however they want. Even though we're pretty open to inviting friends of kin, we never get more than 9-10 people in a raid. This is fun for us.
I'm fine with how the moors is (except for this apathy BS). I guess my point about mentioning that we're a PvE kin is to highlight the fact that your kin has much more presence in the moors than Arise does. If you have a problem with the way the moors is now, first thing you guys should do is look in the mirror.
75% of the time (18 hours/day every day)? Unnecessarily large? You forgot to mention that we shoot fire from our eyes and lightning bolts from our butt. Seriously, we're like some kind of boogeymen to you.
Seriously though, what is "unnecessarily large"? 3? 6? 9? 12? Most of the time we have less than 6 people grouped in the moors. Primetime during the week, this can get up to around 10. On the weekends, we concentrate on PvE raids. You're out there man.
You obviously know our participation in the moors much more than we do... right.
Its this crazy thing. In PvE raids, I can control exactly who is in the zone with me at any time. For some reason, whenever we get an organized group going in the moors, we can't stop people from following us. It obviously must be our (Arise's) fault.
Really? wow
I'll just repost what i said earlier: We play the content thats available. Are you you suggesting that the best use of our time is to troll the forums to &&&&& and moan about Turbine?
We have no influence on the content that turbine pushes in the moors. Even if we all banded together in "server solidarity" we're still only one of the servers. So my question is for you: What is the course of action? All I see from you is moaning from Apathy in moors ooc/glff/these forums.The ORIGINAL Nerd of the Rings
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Jun 28 2012 07:36 AM #58
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Jun 28 2012 07:46 AM #59
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Jun 28 2012 07:51 AM #60
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Jun 28 2012 07:54 AM #61
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Jun 28 2012 07:59 AM #62
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Jun 28 2012 08:00 AM #63
The rules of fair play do not apply in love and war. From what I hear, there is a lot of love here!

Apparently if I buy my skills I am to hard for the freeps to ezmode, so I'm only gonna play a greeny!
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Jun 28 2012 08:09 AM #64
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Jun 28 2012 08:20 AM #65
Spy vs. Spy
I agree spying is really annoying, but don't tell me it doesn't happen both ways. The other morning we had 4-5 freeps (no healers) vs about 12 creeps (3 wls + 1 defiler) the morning crowd tends to be more heavily creep weighted. We were defending TA and failing miserably when we started chatting in OOC that we were attacking the Tyrant in Lug (fabrication). In less than 10 seconds there was not a creep in sight at TA. We had a good chuckle and knew we would pay for it later but after all this is a game.
Gwynth, Glynt etc ad nauseum
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Jun 28 2012 09:28 AM #66
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Jun 28 2012 09:56 AM #67
Hello everyone I just want to say hi and I love pvp on sload. I play warden and bother the healers. I love the creeps and freeps the end.

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Jun 28 2012 10:12 AM #68
Wow, this thread is really popular lol. For me, I think I'm the only one from the Arise kinship that plays more on the creep-side, just saying.

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Jun 28 2012 11:25 AM #69
You keep saying you started as a pve kin. I don't know any kin that started as a pvp kin. You have the higest ranked freep in your kin. I guess he joined you because you're a pve kin.
Yes 9 or 10 in a raid is too much when there is already 20+ freeps out. We are never in a raid when there is that many creeps out and not enough freeps to fight. We go somewhere else or break up into smaller groups. Use vent and talk to each other if you want to hang out. I'm grouped with 2 or 3 others about 90% of the time in the moors. Either that or I'm solo or get in the occasional raid when it's really needed.
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Jun 28 2012 11:30 AM #70
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Jun 28 2012 11:35 AM #71
Wait, she's on your side and you are trolling her? EPIC
Your Trolling gets an "A" for effort but an "F" for results. I recommend you go look for some of the king trollers of the boards posts like Slither or the "king of all worgs" for some help with your trolling because it's just not cutting it.
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Jun 28 2012 11:39 AM #72
woahhh, well as the action is here and not on the battlefield i had to read every single post cause im bored and Elda likes to write so....
I realize that its more fun fight on the forums that actually pvping on our server, mmm, sorry i mean, on TENNISKING server, sorry sorry your highness, you are THE boss, you are the Alpha and the Omega, you were here when nobody else was, watching on us, forgive me my lord, i was behaving badly, I need your redemption before passing to the afterlife
Plz, King of Kings, talk to the crowd, to us, your people, or you just talk through your messenger DestinationLove?
Sorry DestinationLove, no offence, but we need the King of kings words not yours, the boat is sinking as you can see itSex SymbolsCocomiel - Doronor - Brisita
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Jun 28 2012 11:53 AM #73The ORIGINAL Nerd of the Rings
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Jun 28 2012 11:58 AM #74
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour
Unsolicited, you apathy kids come to the forums to complain about Arise. Hows that for trolling?
Why don't you make me.Last edited by DestinationLove; Jun 28 2012 at 12:13 PM.
The ORIGINAL Nerd of the Rings
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Jun 28 2012 12:03 PM #75
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Jun 28 2012 12:24 PM #76
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Jun 28 2012 12:25 PM #77
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Jun 28 2012 12:28 PM #78
Sup guize,
So let me get this straight
This Tennis guy sounds like the new Snarry
Apathy is making people umad
Bow is cute
Rubble is cute
There's a long thread with a bunch of people posting in it
glad to know nothing has changed
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Jun 28 2012 12:29 PM #79
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