I was wondering why people transfer instead of stepping up and trying to make our fishbowl the best on any server. Over the past 5 years we have lost a lot of very very very cool PVPERs and I don't understand it. They pay money to transfer then when they get there they see its all the same then quit the game. Its sad.
All I have seen from every server is how this game or that game has better pvp or this server or that server is better. Why can't Arkenstone step the heck up and make our server the best pvp server. If the freeps raid up and start flipping Creeps raid up and start attacking the flippers instead of logging. If the creeps are raided up send a call out to your kin and stop them.
Turbine has giving us the fishbowl people it is up to use how we want to fight. All this crying out my privates hurt im logging or this im rank 2 freep i dont have to listen to you old high rank people has to go. WE are killing the one part of this game I really like. It is up to every one of us the creeps and freeps to keep the fight going.
It is up to us on how we keep the moors going please use this thread to come up with some Ideas on how to Save the MOORS if you are not apart of the solution you are part of the problem.
I was wondering why people transfer instead of stepping up and trying to make our fishbowl the best on any server. Over the past 5 years we have lost a lot of very very very cool PVPERs and I don't understand it. They pay money to transfer then when they get there they see its all the same then quit the game. Its sad.
All I have seen from every server is how this game or that game has better pvp or this server or that server is better. Why can't Arkenstone step the heck up and make our server the best pvp server. If the freeps raid up and start flipping Creeps raid up and start attacking the flippers instead of logging. If the creeps are raided up send a call out to your kin and stop them.
Turbine has giving us the fishbowl people it is up to use how we want to fight. All this crying out my privates hurt im logging or this im rank 2 freep i dont have to listen to you old high rank people has to go. WE are killing the one part of this game I really like. It is up to every one of us the creeps and freeps to keep the fight going.
It is up to us on how we keep the moors going please use this thread to come up with some Ideas on how to Save the MOORS if you are not apart of the solution you are part of the problem.
The problem is that its the PEOPLE who make the moors good or bad, and unfortunately most of the people out there these days are awful.
And people most certainly do not quit the game when they transfer, I can probably name 10+ people on Elendilmir who transferred from Arkenstone who are out there on a weekly basis.
The moors won't be able to be saved until people realize raiding up and zerging everything in sight when the opposing side doesn't have any meaningful numbers is detrimental.
The moors won't be able to be saved until people realize raiding up and zerging everything in sight when the opposing side doesn't have any meaningful numbers is detrimental.
It is so laughable that the one's who respond to this thread are the creeps responsible for a large part of why the pvp gameplay on this server is so horrible.
@Daec - you and your 5 star play style that 99% of the wargs(the only one I can name who isn't is Auzue) adopt is a large part of why you've got terrible pvp here. I hope you enjoy being rank 8-9 forever, I have a screenshot of removing your 5 stars up at grams from early 2008, when the level cap was 60, and you were rank 8 then, nice job earning that infamy, that grams map must get the most work of any creep on any server relying on both cooldowns as you do. Vulfen, Bloodypaws, Nerrun, and countless other garbage wargs on this server would be middle of the road on E, and as far as the infamy earned, would be near the bottom as much as they are online relying on that playstyle.
You can play however you want in the moors, Arkenstone is an amazing example of that, but if you want to improve things you might want to avoid being a straight up coward pvper like the majority of the top end creeps on this server.
Most of not all of the creeps on this server would lose to my hunter or burglar in a 1v1. I can name maybe 5 creeps, all warleaders basically you'd have a chance at beating me. But I basically never see creeps out there solo without relying on map ins, ooc call outs or otherwise. Muzluks and Auzue are the only soloers creepside on this server, meaning the rest of them have lackluster play style. I can be soloing TR with Goldie, and the 2-3 creeps who come in and still the whole zergpack has to show up each time because that is what is always relied on, no sense of fair play, zero respect for the freep side.
@Elricond - 90% of the transfers off Arken were actually good for this server, when the Immortals exploit crew led by Droggo left, things actually improved for about 3-6 months till the old playstyle came back. Arken has had some losses, mostly freepside but what can you do, there is only so much you can tolerate when it comes to this server. I did find it funny when Droggo ended up on E and had problems integrating. He is pretty much a middle of the pack player now, and his style had to adapt, it is funny to see how rough it is on the Arken coward creeps who take off thinking its the server not them who make it terrible here.
@Baglun + @Bloodloaf - If you seriously wanted "better" pvp on this server you would have altered your style a long time ago, clearly you don't want to. Creeps can argue that Baglun leads creep raids and uses legitimate tactics like flanking, fighting in open ground, but I can name maybe a handful of times I've seen this happen in the past 3 years.
You want to complain about freeps raiding up? What a joke. The freeps who are left on this server during primetime are horrible 90% of the time. They have no choice but to raid up. Maybe once a week they are actually effective as a full 24 man raid, and can roll a superior raid of creeps well equipped. But most of the time they barely survive, all they do is get a few kills, unless its a complete zerg bubblefest. Most of the time what I see is a superior creep force reliant on Warleaders(4-5 bubbles) sit infront of TA, push with Immunity tokens, be it store bought or legit. Reliant on Immunity pots, that are bugged, and block slows for 1 min, instead of just 10 seconds.
Complaining much about freep raids pveing? Defend your keeps with less than superior numbers. The creepside is terrible at this, you don't have the same overpowered force and you'll map out and sit out after one death that might drop your precious rating by defending your keeps, then you'll come back with a zerg 10 mins after the freep raid breaks up.
The amazing flanking Baglun does is usually done when the creeps have 1.5x the force or more, they ball up infront of TA, where they shouldn't even be resorting to sitting, then there is a side flank with a warleader powerdrain banner. Such amazing tactics can't be matched. Oh, and don't forget the immunity tokening spider that has to dump and burrow on top of the raid every time. You're overwhelming a weak force of creeps when you should be just fighting them straight up with your superior numbers, instead you resort to every possible advantage to wipe them with the least amount of creep casualties.
For years creeps were underpowered, beyond purple cjs creep classes were horribly designed and executed. On Elendilmir those creeps decided to maximize their playing style to compensate. They used Vent, they organized, they got better, and they outplayed the overpowered freeps(even the top kinship ones) on undermanned creep classes for years. Those freeps relied on Champ ball zergs of keeps, rangers, and a great number of the tactics Arkenstone creeps resorted to, but for years they were dominated by better creep players.
On Arkenstone you had the opposite result. The turtling inside keeps, relying on cooldowns, exploits, superior numbers, zerging, bubbling and so on has been the norm for 4/5 years I've been Pvping on Arkenstone.
Finally after years of begging creeps are no longer underpowered. Warleaders, Wargs, Blackarrows, Spiders, and Reavers of high rank are all now comparable if not better than their freep counterparts as far as skills and abilities go. But on Arken things are still the same. You'll still have the 5 warleader bubble immunity crew running in and shouting down 1 freep, then 5 bubbling back into TA over and over again. You'll have the numbers, and not push. You'll have the wargpacks who are sitting in grams till both CDs are back up. You have the unnecessary flanks. You'll send the Tyrant into TA when you have 1.5x the numbers.
Don't hope for better game play on this server, it won't be coming till about 30-40 creeps all transfer off and infest some other server with their terrible style. The only reason why I pvp on this server anymore is to get that kill on that immunity tokening, bubbling, zergfester that thinks they can continue to play the way they do without risk of death, beyond that there is nothing here on this server pvp wise, hasn't been for 3.5 out of the 5.5 years of pvp.
@Pugga - I am glad you are leaving, good luck adapting your garbage style elsewhere, it'll be laughable when you are just another no name creep somewhere else. I hope you take more of your terrible players with you.
I've enjoyed PvP on this server since my transfer. I played on E and the constant zerg on each side couldn't even be classified as PvP, just whoever could bring more people. From my limited play time over here so far the freep community seems nice enough and there are some skilled creeps. Just keep having fun and play the game how you want to play it
@Daec - you and your 5 star play style that 99% of the wargs(the only one I can name who isn't is Auzue) adopt is a large part of why you've got terrible pvp here. I hope you enjoy being rank 8-9 forever, I have a screenshot of removing your 5 stars up at grams from early 2008, when the level cap was 60, and you were rank 8 then, nice job earning that infamy, that grams map must get the most work of any creep on any server relying on both cooldowns as you do. Vulfen, Bloodypaws, Nerrun, and countless other garbage wargs on this server would be middle of the road on E, and as far as the infamy earned, would be near the bottom as much as they are online relying on that playstyle.
Yep relo, because you've never ran or hips'ed from a fight. You are a shining example of aggressive and fight till the end game play, i applaud you for this.
Just kidding, i think you're upset i am better at getting away than you are.
Originally Posted by Relo_Windwalker
Finally after years of begging creeps are no longer underpowered. Warleaders, Wargs, Blackarrows, Spiders, and Reavers of high rank are all now comparable if not better than their freep counterparts as far as skills and abilities go. But on Arken things are still the same.
Warleader: No
Warg: Possibly as good
Blackarrow: Possibly as good
Spiders: No
Reavers: No
Your entire post is so full of hypocrisy and delusion i am beginning to think we aren't playing in the same moors or even on the same game.
@Bloodloaf - If you seriously wanted "better" pvp on this server you would have altered your style a long time ago, clearly you don't want to.
You don't know me very well then. MB was created November 2011, and we only had 7 members until March this year when I braught in many of the other verterans on this server. Prior to last November, I basically solo'd my way from rank 8-9 which took me over a complete year to do so. Sorry if I no longer wish to be this sides Jimmeo. I always gave people 1v1's even rk's when they were the death angels of the moors to a pre-isen updated WL. Which by the way was probably the most gimped PvP class at that time. My rating had never seen above 1300 until this year. I was a officer in The immortals long ago, and I did leave that tribe for my own reasons. When I lead in todays moors, which isn't often, I do generally try to do whats best for both sides.
I did try to bring better PvP to this server, and for the most part I just got facerolled/corpse jumped a thousand times to show for it. It even got to the point where Rahb and his MeW raid would ride past me and leave me alone if they came across me. Not sure if it was pity or for honor....
As far as the rest of your post, you sure make it sound like it's solely only the 30-40 creeps that need to transfer off this servers fault. That freeps aren't to blame for anything. I'm not sure what your smoking, but I wish you'd share!
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