Thread: Lets get that 1v1 going on

Ah ok as i think you just allude to nothing.

bye bye Sara.

P.s.: Maybe you want to tell to the world that i use sprint to survive fights? Well if the clubber gods doesn't allow it they can ask to turbine to remove it in next update. ;-) It's surely the OP skill in the EM.

Competetive PvPers come to PvP 1v1, 2v2,3vs3, or any fair fight, but there are always those noobs that can't 1vs1 2vs2 or 3vs3 so they bring groups of people to outnumber and easymode zerg.
If you think you think 1vs1 easymode how come noob players like many of you gankers don't fight 1vs1, well that rank 12 minstrel which tried to gank and lost 1 vs 1 running away with store brand have no skill at all and is a massive failure of a PvP player on a OP class, it's just sad to see when he comes back with 5 people and ganks 5 vs 1 after.
Easymode is winning through numbers >class > group set up- so it won't matter how good or well the outnumbered players you fight, you will have it easy fighting the UP classes with bigger numbers and OP classes.
Thought this is MMO PvP with open area, people going to prefer zerg than get zerged.

Originally Posted by Arlecchino79

Ah ok as i think you just allude to nothing.

bye bye Sara.

P.s.: Maybe you want to tell to the world that i use sprint to survive fights? Well if the clubber gods doesn't allow it they can ask to turbine to remove it in next update. ;-) It's surely the OP skill in the EM.

no mate that is just some ridiculous way to play that I will never understand for heavy armour and that just make you call chicken by all ettenmors but it's not a big deal, you're just making fun of yourself and I find it more funny than irritating.

I'm alluding to your attitude to the ones that teached you how to play and give you the equip you wear (your ex kinship). People you are now insulting to look smart to the ones you consider PRO players.
Btw this is just utterly sad, and I will stop to read and answer, you dont deserve any more attention because you're just a popularity queen.

Originally Posted by Extrima

Competetive PvPers come to PvP 1v1, 2v2,3vs3, or any fair fight, but there are always those noobs that can't 1vs1 2vs2 or 3vs3 so they bring groups of people to outnumber and easymode zerg.
If you think you think 1vs1 easymode how come noob players like many of you gankers don't fight 1vs1, well that rank 12 minstrel which tried to gank and lost 1 vs 1 running away with store brand have no skill at all and is a massive failure of a PvP player on a OP class, it's just sad to see when he comes back with 5 people and ganks 5 vs 1 after.
Easymode is winning through numbers >class > group set up- so it won't matter how good or well the outnumbered players you fight, you will have it easy fighting the UP classes with bigger numbers and OP classes.
Thought this is MMO PvP with open area, people going to prefer zerg than get zerged.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Played houndred of 1v1 in SC, SC2 (starcraft) and WC3 (warcraft) in sandbox balanced fight where you can really show your skill without QQ about anything. I know what's skill and i learn to respect the opponet that defeat me.

In a mmo like lotro where there can't be any even spar other than between two identical class, with same equip, same trait, same buff, same lag etc...
In reality always happen that one side have and edge to the other. Sometimes you get zerged sometimes you zerg. It's the game that's set in that way... there's nothing to QQ about, you can just take it or keep blame others or QQ all the time. It's soo difficult to understand? Seem that no one here have ever play something really challenging and balanced like a RTS or a FPS or chess or any game where just skill are important.

It's just stupid pretend that the game would offer you something that he can't. If you need to feed your ego go and do something where just skill will made difference, there's tons of game that allow that. (I did for 12 years now i just want relax in an open mmo fight without care about ranking and other stuff)

As i understand the game it's a mmo where one side (tons of players) fight the another side (tons of player) in small, medium, large fight, trying to have and edge and get more kill than wipe. For doing that you can group up, or made raid if necessary... that's the spirit of the game, there's nothing to blame who group up or made raid. (well probably ppl blame only who group and kick their &&&) If you get zerged like happen to me what you can do :
1) Accept the challenge and made a raid you too and fight.
2) QQ about the one that make a raid because it's a noob easymoders.

I'm wrong or many ppl here simply don't understand the game they're playng?

When i come to EM i play solo, if ppl tell me there's tons of creeps maybe i group up because i like mutual help between class and is challenging fight as a group in an open pvp area. (it's not really challenging fight 1vs6)
If ppl tell me there's craid that zerg them i surely don't log my creep and start the easymoding QQ about their leader, i just group up and fight them. It's wrong?

P.s.: Lol now i realize that 2 mistrel try to explaine to me what's an even fight. lol Yeah go 1v1 with your deathmachine you're skill will be really great if you win a "balanced" 1v1.

Originally Posted by Arlecchino79

Played houndred of 1v1 in SC, SC2 (starcraft) and WC3 (warcraft) in sandbox balanced fight where you can really show your skill without QQ about anything. I know what's skill and i learn to respect the opponet that defeat me.

In a mmo like lotro where there can't be any even spar other than between two identical class, with same equip, same trait, same buff, same lag etc...
In reality always happen that one side have and edge to the other. Sometimes you get zerged sometimes you zerg. It's the game that's set in that way... there's nothing to QQ about, you can just take it or keep blame others or QQ all the time. It's soo difficult to understand? Seem that no one here have ever play something really challenging and balanced like a RTS or a FPS or chess or any game where just skill are important.

It's just stupid pretend that the game would offer you something that he can't. If you need to feed your ego go and do something where just skill will made difference, there's tons of game that allow that.

As i understand the game it's a mmo where one side (tons of players) fight the another side (tons of player) in small, medium, large fight, trying to have and edge and get more kill than wipe. For doing that you can group up, or made raid if necessary... that's the spirit of the game it's not to blame. If you get zerged like happen to me what you can do :
1) Accept the challenge and made a raid you too and fight.
2) QQ about the one that make a raid because it's a noob easymoders.

I'm wrong or many ppl here simply don't understand the game they're playng?

When i come to EM i play solo, if ppl tell me there's tons of creeps maybe i group up because i like mutual help between class and is challenging fight as a group in an open pvp area. (it's not really challenging fight 1vs6)
If ppl tell me there's craid that zerg them i surely don't log my creep and start the easymoding QQ about their leader, i just group up and fight them. It's wrong?

You talk like there actually was a group of creeps when you first came to 1vs1 area to zerg 1-2 people sparing like 10 times. You like to easymode you like to zerg and you believe that you can't have a fight against someone unless they got exactly the same things as you. It's were you fail hard and will lose in an MMO PvP 1vs1. You don't know the enemy or how to counter it, you need to know that what you are playing the enemy got the same things. A skilled player will also learn things he didn't know from before so he can counter the other class even thought the class is better geared, better class he still win. As in an MMO like GW2 you have structured PvP, the game may be unbalanced because of different classes, but in a tournament where it's 5 vs 5, the not-so skilled players as the teammates will be the reason they lose because he in Lotro always relied on others players like you and therefore never learned his potentional skill or knowledge about how to counter the other classes.
As in PvE raiding, you can down a raid with 12 people, but there will be skilled players that know how to play together that can do it with 6 man.
People who come to 1vs1 come have fun fights, test they're skill and so on where you don't rely on other people. Thats not the thing for you in this game so you choose to destroy it for others because you want people to PvP like you want it to be. Yet you say people shouldn't QQ about your raid zerging while you QQ about 1vs1.

I don't QQ about 1v1, it's you that QQ because you get killed at gta.

All your post don't have any sence you suppose that everyone want to be skilled and pro. There's simply ppl that want to play the game as it is, enjoy open fight and group up.

If you like 1v1 it's up to you try to find them in the map but you can't ask other ppl to play like you want or don't kill the creep you're attacking just because you want to play a game with rules that the game don't have.

If GW2 have sandbox pvp, go there. nobody could ruin your balanced pvp and you can show your true skill. Oh well would be probably hard than 1v1 with minstrel vs creeps but seem you like to improve yourself.

Originally Posted by Arlecchino79

I don't QQ about 1v1, it's you that QQ because you get killed at gta.

All your post don't have any sence you suppose that everyone want to be skilled and pro. There's simply ppl that want to play the game as it is, enjoy open fight and group up.

If you like 1v1 it's up to you try to find them in the map but you can't ask other ppl to play like you want or don't kill the creep you're attacking just because you want to play a game with rules that the game don't have.

If GW2 have sandbox pvp, go there. nobody could ruin your balanced pvp and you can show your true skill. Oh well would be probably hard than 1v1 with minstrel vs creeps but seem you like to improve yourself.

I do look for 1vs1 over the map. My posts makes no sense, ok sorry for discussing the term PvMP, you obviously don't understand it.

Fighting 1vs1 on minstrel isn't hard, I don't believe it is either, but fighting 2 vs 1 and so on is more of a challenge, I mostly do 1vs1 on my warg.

I didn't say GW2 would be balanced. Learn to read.

Yeah I'll continue 1vs1 and you can continue your relying on other players PvP style Players vs Player is really hard and PvE in Ettenmoors.

Originally Posted by Siliveth

no mate that is just some ridiculous way to play that I will never understand for heavy armour and that just make you call chicken by all ettenmors but it's not a big deal, you're just making fun of yourself and I find it more funny than irritating.

I'm alluding to your attitude to the ones that teached you how to play and give you the equip you wear (your ex kinship). People you are now insulting to look smart to the ones you consider PRO players.
Btw this is just utterly sad, and I will stop to read and answer, you dont deserve any more attention because you're just a popularity queen.

Sorry miss that.

1) I feel that if someone use his skill to kill and survive in a fight is good, probably you seem to like more guardian that wipe and give you renown. It's not difficult understand why.

2) I never insult anyone of my old kinship, like you instead did with me many time, but fortunaly i'm not like you so i could tell you that i've nothing vs Figli di Eorl. (also if i left them because i feel that's not the right place for me, and fortunally now i'm play with new ppl for months without any problem and have great fun)

3) I thanks all FdE that help me discover this game and we had good moment togheter, if i'd to pay something for the equip i rolled playng the game with you, (well nothing that i could not still earn also with pugs) tell me how much gold i'd to give you so i can pay my debit.

Originally Posted by Arlecchino79

I don't QQ about 1v1, it's you that QQ because you get killed at gta.

All your post don't have any sence you suppose that everyone want to be skilled and pro. There's simply ppl that want to play the game as it is, enjoy open fight and group up.

If you like 1v1 it's up to you try to find them in the map but you can't ask other ppl to play like you want or don't kill the creep you're attacking just because you want to play a game with rules that the game don't have.

Ok so from what I understand because you have been killed previously at 1v1 by gankers and those that loiter around the outer edges you are now going to kill anyone there even if it is not those players that have killed you. Seems rather indecent of you.

You keep posting that the game doesn't have those rules. You are playing in the Ettenmoors where the only "rules" enforced by Turbine are those stated in their T&C. Everything else is down the players.

The point I'm trying to make with the above is that we have already asked other people to allow a 1v1 area and the majority have accepted it in some form or another, be it actively participated in it, completely leaving it alone or ganking it they have at least acknowledged it and with that comes reputation. Reputation which you are currently generating for yourself as a ganker/easymoder which is just going to make people hate you. Now I have no idea if you like that sort of thing but soon the moors for you will constantly be raid or be zerged just as it is now.

Also part of the attitude your receiving also comes from the fact you are playing a Guardian. One of the stronger of the freep classes right now, although every freep class is in a good position compared to some of the creeps.

1v1 is not forcing you to play the game in a different way from the one you would like.
As someone said, there's the restin 99% of the map hosting open fights. Just look at those players, like Ichor, that never joined 1v1, that never complained about it but that are still always in the middle of good action.
The only difference between players like Ichor and a player like you is that Ichor got nuts and respect and you're an easymoder, carin less than a shi"p" about others.

The amount of things you said about good ta spot are just non sense... Let's be honest: you're against 1v1 and the only reason why you are is not cause of the good ta spot but cause you want to promote yourself here in forum, as in game.

Well, this is not working dude.
Start working on respect towards players and on fair play, then you would have some chances to reach the goal.

100000 post and ppl repeat same things.......
i have one question 4 all the oldtimer of snowbourn : How do you earn reputation, fame and respect ? ( that seems it is the only thing you care)

Originally Posted by Anolus

100000 post and ppl repeat same things.......
i have one question 4 all the oldtimer of snowbourn : How do you earn reputation, fame and respect ? ( that seems it is the only thing you care)

Well, my suggestion for you is to roll a creep
You would be welcome on the other side and you would find out that there's plenty of nice people doing monster play, just like there's many on freep side. You would also find out that there's nothing personal between players. And, something more you would learn, is that game unbalance is insane atm.

The second suggestion is to roam completely solo and by feet.
You could be attacked by 2-3 even 4-5 creeps and probably die but still, you would improve your skills and you would clear your reputation from the usual zerging attitude that nowadays is generally seen in most of players.

Third suggestion is to use the cd remotion on switching side not to insult people in ooc but to congratulate for the good fights u have had together.

I've been sincere but I guess you will just answer that you don't need any suggestion or advice :P Let's wait and see...

What i'm asking is move 1v1 in place where who don't care about 1v1 never had to pass by. (as i said there's tons of such place in non questing|keep zone) Good ta is too central in the map and get ganked spyed by creeps|freeps sitting there is a shame. Someone suggest me to avoid that area at all but &&& i'd to avoid an area because there's someone that want they're clubbing sparring ring in the middle of EM?

We'll it's absurd to me honestly. I pay for play, and i think that it's my right to pass in a key position like gta without pen and paper to check all the time if the creeps sitting there are gankers or not.

From there my decision (after asking to move the 1v1 area away from gta) to just play all the map like it was designed, a large pvp area. It's too easy ask respect when clubbers don't show any to others player that simply want to play the game without any kind of "adjustment".

Well if i'll gather bad reputation because i use my own right to play the game, i'd really to care about that?
(also because you gather bad reputation anyways, because there's always some suckers that can't accept to wipe)

Originally Posted by Arlecchino79

..also because you gather bad reputation anyways, because there's always some suckers that can't accept to wipe.

Mhhh I'm sure there's many freeps here, in this forum, that erased creeps a billion times more than those you did.
But still, they can pass in good ta without any trouble. Some of them could even dance in front of creeps or playing emotes without being attacked. Why that? Cause they never wiped some creeps? Lol... You know nothing about that and your kills are still those of a pvmp newbie compared to theirs.
Reason is that players that show respect just have back the same respect.

I'm sorry that you cannot roam freely for all the map without being attacked or tracked or followed. What I'm trying to tell you is that the reason is not good ta but your general attitude toward others.

No one requires from anybody to change their playstyle, people play (pay for) the game as they want, it's just all about at least the minimum of understanding in the certain cases. You cannot change something that has very deep roots in the server habits since the long time, no matter where you will move the area, it will be back again to the same spot. I've tried to explain already. You ask why? Because that's people's attitude, it got tested before already and we ended up with the same result. Therefore I find pointless to see some people keep on going still with that discussion.

Most of the people that are not the followers of the area are fine with ignoring that place and those that use it properly unless they will get attacked or provoked, which is fair play, hence I don't know why someone should feel urge to kill everything that walks there around in the name of revenge for the possible past bad experiences, to seek an attention of expressing openly his how different from the other people view, or just from a simple greed of the points, since it's not a big deal to ninja kill target that is on low morale, zerg the place with having a raid on the back, or map into the GTA and make a slaughter with group.


Ow, also there is pretty interesting story that I know.



Once upon a time... in a land of chocolate, milk, honey and joy there was a happy group of little children that had an amazing fun playing with themselves. They thought that they can be anyone they could only imagine. They used to play usually in their nearby sandbox where some of them were self-styled kings with the mighty castles, some were nosey astronauts curious of the surrounding world and conquering the space and some were brave firefighters saving the cats that stuck on the tree branches. They enjoyed to play also with the other kids that were playing on that playground bit longer than they did, though the older children gladly shared their way of play and accepted them into their ranks. Yet everything that is beautiful, does not lasts forever. One of the older kids destroyed a toy of the younger one by mistake, who started to cry so terrible and scream so loud on a whole playground even after the honest apology of the other kid. Friends of that little one suddenly supported him and threw on the ground the older child's toy in a response. Days, weeks and months have passed and even if the older children decided to bury the hatchet with those little ones, little striplings came to terms with each other and were coming on a playground only in a one purpose, just to take away the fun of the "oldies by destroying their new-made sand castles on which they worked hard, stealing or destroying toys, doing anything to prevent them from enjoying the fun that left. Noone could explain them that they are doing wrong, what they are doing wrong. That they are not playing alone with themselves, that they were not first ones playing in that particular sandbox noone could do anything to prevent them from doing it, they were just filled with anger and rage because of the one little accident in the past that have changed their mind. Little thing that caused a lot of troubles...



What's the moral of that story? Write it by yourself, so as the interpretation.

Well you set the rules and only if someone follow them can gather your respect. I can live without.

I respect any opponent in the EM playing at my best with the rules that this game had. My possibility are the same that the others have. If people desperately need hugs, emotes, gather friend probably is better if they use facebook.

If i find a friend on his creep i've no problem killing him and i've no problem being killed by him, it's just a &&&&ing game, but seem that for someone is something too much related to his self ego.

I don't need any more visibility and i don't need to self promote myself. The stage is all yours best champion of the server.

See you in EM, hope you'll enjoy the game you're play without the need to bribe it.

Originally Posted by Siliveth

nobody spyes on honest freeps passing by.

That's a gem.

Originally Posted by Extrima

Competetive PvPers come to PvP 1v1

After we Good Players™, Competetive PvPers, not sure if I should ™ though.

Originally Posted by Navhar

You all know how much I love 1v1 and gta but.. 1v1 has to be considered a chance, not a right. Good ta has always been the best spot to "find the chance" and I don't think there could ever be a better place than that. Still, I'm talking about chances, not about rights so, if you're ganked, if you're zerged, if you're jumped, there's just no point in complaining.
That's just part of the game and, if you wanna play, you must accept that.
If, instead, dying without a fair fight is something you cannot really stand, get back to pve, mobs won't disappoint you!

QFT

But please keep that "Everybody hates Irvaard'' thing going on, its veri amusing.

Originally Posted by Extrima

Competetive PvPers come to PvP 1v1, 2v2,3vs3, or any fair fight, .

Yeah Right!

Biggest load of bull I have seen in a while, I have passed through Good TA a number of times recently and not seen any of the people posting here. Currently there are a serious number of RKs, minis, wardens and Guards with line after line of Cappy buffs, destiny perks etc fighting near cappies banners and jumping in front of low rank creeps. If anyone "competative" comes from the Creep side by the time the dust settles there is tumbleweed blowing across GTA, ganking starts (curiously enough from the same people who were farming not 2 minutes before) and the crying starts in OOC from the "heroes" of 1vs1. While I dont agree with a lot of what Irvaard says it has become an easymode farming zone and not a lot else.

As for the "majority" supporting 1vs1 at GTA I disagree. The majority are fed up with the squabbles we have seen here, the endless e peening, and "noob" accusations if you dont allow a tiny minority to do what they want exactly where they want to do it and damn the rest of you. Endless posts over the last three years have detailed the opposition and is largely ignored by the "very" vocal minority. I think the majority of people are happy to let the serious (again spookily enough most of the "in favour" people posting here) 1 vs 1'ers carry on but it is the dross and trouble you attract that impacts the experience of others.

Unfortunately there are not enough of the serious players to support a 1vs1 site without the dross causing trouble, this has been proven when the site moved and because there was less ganking, spying, not so much use as a "safe" area etc, the area died through lack of support. Nav has the right idea, by all means fight your fights but if you get caught up in the fighting where you are in the middle(ish) of the action, dont complain. I think most of the "kick back" isn't because of the actions of the people posting "in favour" here its because of the people you attract.

Originally Posted by FingersUK

Yeah Right!

Biggest load of bull I have seen in a while, I have passed through Good TA a number of times recently and not seen any of the people posting here. Currently there are a serious number of RKs, minis, wardens and Guards with line after line of Cappy buffs, destiny perks etc fighting near cappies banners and jumping in front of low rank creeps. If anyone "competative" comes from the Creep side by the time the dust settles there is tumbleweed blowing across GTA, ganking starts (curiously enough from the same people who were farming not 2 minutes before) and the crying starts in OOC from the "heroes" of 1vs1. While I dont agree with a lot of what Irvaard says it has become an easymode farming zone and not a lot else.

As for the "majority" supporting 1vs1 at GTA I disagree. The majority are fed up with the squabbles we have seen here, the endless e peening, and "noob" accusations if you dont allow a tiny minority to do what they want exactly where they want to do it and damn the rest of you. Endless posts over the last three years have detailed the opposition and is largely ignored by the "very" vocal minority. I think the majority of people are happy to let the serious (again spookily enough most of the "in favour" people posting here) 1 vs 1'ers carry on but it is the dross and trouble you attract that impacts the experience of others.

Unfortunately there are not enough of the serious players to support a 1vs1 site without the dross causing trouble, this has been proven when the site moved and because there was less ganking, spying, not so much use as a "safe" area etc, the area died through lack of support. Nav has the right idea, by all means fight your fights but if you get caught up in the fighting where you are in the middle(ish) of the action, dont complain. I think most of the "kick back" isn't because of the actions of the people posting "in favour" here its because of the people you attract.

This don't explain that my statement is the biggest bull. Firstly this comes for a player that is not able to do anything on his own apart from pew pewing where the zerg is. I don't claim all 1vs1 is competitive as in also other games you have player that is got better things as in LoL or other games or in a fight were a beginner fights a pro.
So tell me why is 1vs1, 2v2, 3vs3 or any fair fights is not competitive. Because some players at 1vs1 isn't a competitive PvPer doesn't mean none comes there for a challenge on worse classes. Secondly I fight on my warg there for a while now even thought it is UP compare to the OP classes, won't make me not fight them.
This just seems to me like a rant about 1vs1 because you 1 dislike it and think it is for easymode classes where I have never seen you fight there through the years while others hunters have.
Not also to mention you track and kill wargs 10 vs 1 and say that 1vs1 is easymode. But ofc pew pewing 10 vs 2 and so on is less easymode than a OP class fighting a not OP class...

Originally Posted by Extrima

This don't explain that my statement is the biggest bull.

Hello ezmoder! zS

I thing he misinterpreted your statement, though he did make an excellent post about how 1vs1 is full of ezmoders. Sure a competitive PvPer will go to 1vs1 as you said, but so will many ezmoders. Don't disregard his well constructed post just over a minor misinterpretation.

P.S Try not to close this thread, its the only forum activity on snowbourn nowadays.

P.S 2 Make a snowbourn PvMP video plix!

Its refreshing that someone who even though he is completely ignorant of my situation it does not stop him from making bold statements about me and my game play!

Originally Posted by Extrima

Firstly this comes for a player that is not able to do anything on his own apart from pew pewing where the zerg is. ...

I have not played my hunter (other than 23 minutes in two sessions recently) in nearly 2 years (other than a brief return when wargs became FOTM), since FREEP started to lack challange, however my warg (now rank 10) appreciates the fact that he can pew pew! and does so at the moment. Broad (and woefully inaccurate LOL) generalisations about Hunters and me in particular does not enhance your chances of being taken seriously.

Originally Posted by Extrima

So tell me why is 1vs1, 2v2, 3vs3 or any fair fights is not competitive.

OK......I illustrated the fact in my earlier post that a fight being 1vs1 (or 2vs2 etc) is not the same as being competative or fair as is being proved on a daily basis currently. I quite clearly indicated that I thought the majority of posters here (Arg, Nav, Eth (although no fight against Eth is fair he is too good!) etc) did abide by the spirit of 1vs1 but it was the dross that surrounded the area that caused the nausia to the majority of players. I cant comment on you because I dont know your situation (a good lesson for you to learn).

Originally Posted by Extrima

Not also to mention you track and kill wargs 10 vs 1...

LOL I think the tribe I run with would be fascinated by this sparkiling intelligence, just so you understand I am more likely to be the 1 than the 10 and unless you are a hobbit/warg cross I cant track you lol.

Originally Posted by Extrima

This just seems to me like a rant about 1vs1 because you 1 dislike it
...

NO if you read the post you would see its not the 1vs1 I object to (fill your boots) but the effect the area being where it is has on the majority. But I guess I should log on and pew pew with the zerg...on my warg lol.

Originally Posted by FingersUK

Its refreshing that someone who even though he is completely ignorant of my situation it does not stop him from making bold statements about me and my game play!

I have not played my hunter (other than 23 minutes in two sessions recently) in nearly 2 years (other than a brief return when wargs became FOTM), since FREEP started to lack challange, however my warg (now rank 10) appreciates the fact that he can pew pew! and does so at the moment. Broad (and woefully inaccurate LOL) generalisations about Hunters and me in particular does not enhance your chances of being taken seriously.

OK......I illustrated the fact in my earlier post that a fight being 1vs1 (or 2vs2 etc) is not the same as being competative or fair as is being proved on a daily basis currently. I quite clearly indicated that I thought the majority of posters here (Arg, Nav, Eth (although no fight against Eth is fair he is too good!) etc) did abide by the spirit of 1vs1 but it was the dross that surrounded the area that caused the nausia to the majority of players. I cant comment on you because I dont know your situation (a good lesson for you to learn).

LOL I think the tribe I run with would be fascinated by this sparkiling intelligence, just so you understand I am more likely to be the 1 than the 10 and unless you are a hobbit/warg cross I cant track you lol.

NO if you read the post you would see its not the 1vs1 I object to (fill your boots) but the effect the area being where it is has on the majority. But I guess I should log on and pew pew with the zerg...on my warg lol.

I was talking about your hunter, if you play warg good for you, I don't know who your warg is so can't judge it. I'm just saying the fact from when Ive seen your hunter play, hugging TR with freeps tracking and chasing 1 warg. Staying with freeps always relying on others.

Do you even know what a competitive player is?

Do you believe warg is hardmode atm and that a stealth class getting into a 10 vs 1 is pretty much your own fault. Do you solo and fight freeps alone and do you attack everyone or just the bad players?

If you group with wargs and trait 5 min sprint and dissapear it is as easymode as you can get it.
And not to mention good hunters never had a bad period, skilled once always showed that. In SoA and MoM they were OP if you refer to MoM time was hard for hunter Im just gonna laugh.
And one last question, who is your warg, Id like to know

Originally Posted by Extrima

I was talking about your hunter, if you play warg good for you, I don't know who your warg is so can't judge it. I'm just saying the fact from when Ive seen your hunter play, hugging TR with freeps tracking and chasing 1 warg. Staying with freeps always relying on others.

Do you even know what a competitive player is?

Do you believe warg is hardmode atm and that a stealth class getting into a 10 vs 1 is pretty much your own fault. Do you solo and fight freeps alone and do you attack everyone or just the bad players?

If you group with wargs and trait 5 min sprint and dissapear it is as easymode as you can get it.
And not to mention good hunters never had a bad period, skilled once always showed that. In SoA and MoM they were OP if you refer to MoM time was hard for hunter Im just gonna laugh.

Thankyou for taking the lesson I suggested to heart and actually trying to find out what you were talking about, however a series of wild guesses (accusations?) still doesn't get you taken seriously more likely to be ignored. If you genuinely want to find out what and how I play (preferably before commenting knowledgably on it) contact me in game and not troll on a thread about the impact the GTA 1vs1 area has on other players.

Anyway posted my view its up to better minds than mine to come up with a solution. Have fun whatever way you play. Me, I'm out.

My final thoughts on this.

Currently the 1v1 is a mess simply due to class imbalance and the lack of creeps participating compared to the amount of certain freep classes, who you could say are taking advantage of it.

Add to that some people throwing hissy fits because they expected to pass by there unharmed and got killed so are now wanting it moved/destroyed to suit there needs while those that have already supported the 1v1 since its incarnation around 4 years ago still voice their opinion.

And you get some of the best PvP forum action as is expected from Snowbourn

Originally Posted by Anolus

100000 post and ppl repeat same things.......
i have one question 4 all the oldtimer of snowbourn : How do you earn reputation, fame and respect ? ( that seems it is the only thing you care)

To ear fame , reputation and respect?
Hmm.. that is hard to achieve, but you have two solutions :
Or you do like Ichor, Snozbutt, Kashnak, Abbu, KP... It means you never, ever, start use forum, and people will think you're a sage full of wisdom and respect you.

Or you use forum and you then you need to be skilled at it; like Equanor for example, you need to write smartly, great and fluent english, be smart, fun, point of sarcasm, and you'll get many friends !

Or the last one, you speak bad english, you are trash sometimes, you speak to fast other times, you do mistakes etc
But you have a huge aura, your skill is more than perfect, so people respect you, this is the highest lvl.
This level is called : The KORI level. The rank 15 charisma lvl.
Good luck at it !

Kori

Originally Posted by Cenko

There is more Pvmp On forums then in the game Just like the old days ... It never change does it

Yep XD . I've to say that forums are more active than ettenmoors map nowadays!

Originally Posted by Tolgaring

[...]The only one I remember doing it was Vinci. From now on, shall I call you Vinci 2.0? I bet you'd like that!

NO! plz! another Vinci isnt exactly what we need!!

Originally Posted by korig

To ear fame , reputation and respect?
Hmm.. that is hard to achieve, but you have two solutions :
Or you do like Ichor, Snozbutt, Kashnak, Abbu, KP... It means you never, ever, start use forum, and people will think you're a sage full of wisdom and respect you.

Or you use forum and you then you need to be skilled at it; like Equanor for example, you need to write smartly, great and fluent english, be smart, fun, point of sarcasm, and you'll get many friends !

Or the last one, you speak bad english, you are trash sometimes, you speak to fast other times, you do mistakes etc
But you have a huge aura, your skill is more than perfect, so people respect you, this is the highest lvl.
This level is called : The KORI level. The rank 15 charisma lvl.
Good luck at it !

Kori

ahahha great kori! your r15 charisma is growing after this post!! XD



however dont care about gankers, ezymoders etc...if someone play like that is because he has the necessity to play like that in order to get inf/ren; so writing in useless forums cant changes that...but ive to say that these new heroes of EM in brief time, imo, will go on other mmo, mmorpg, games to demonstrate their valour.




theo

Lol *thumbs up*.

Originally Posted by Navhar

Well, my suggestion for you is to roll a creep
You would be welcome on the other side and you would find out that there's plenty of nice people doing monster play, just like there's many on freep side. You would also find out that there's nothing personal between players. And, something more you would learn, is that game unbalance is insane atm.

The second suggestion is to roam completely solo and by feet.
You could be attacked by 2-3 even 4-5 creeps and probably die but still, you would improve your skills and you would clear your reputation from the usual zerging attitude that nowadays is generally seen in most of players.

Third suggestion is to use the cd remotion on switching side not to insult people in ooc but to congratulate for the good fights u have had together.

I've been sincere but I guess you will just answer that you don't need any suggestion or advice :P Let's wait and see...

Thanks for the suggestions Navhar , let's try to answer you point by point :

1 Actually i am rolling a creep ( r4 spider/aud4/all skill corruptions etc for r4 ) and i can notify that i'm really a dead spider walking but anyway thinking about all the time i've spent on Anolus i suppose it's fair enough ( dunno 4 high ranks but some creep classes are underpower it's true)
About creep side i've found that people are very friendly and always try to help you expecially low ranks

2 I'm a big solo roamer i'm usual to do many quests in em and every creep that camp Freep quest zone can tell you, ehm also all the questing low rank creeps i kill XD .Only last 2 week i begun to group a lot cause many guys of my kin joined freep side and they needed to be teached about how it works etc
I've enjoyed many 1 vs 2 1vs 3 killing all the creeps but mostly of the time if i scout 1 or 2 wl + other i run away cause it's impossible 4 me to kill em
Only by feet , why ? can't understand this one

3 this one will be the harder of all 3

See you in the Ettenmoors

@Kori nice post Xd ,ehhei will try for the 3° way

Originally Posted by Anolus

Thanks for the suggestions Navhar , let's try to answer you point by point :

1 Actually i am rolling a creep ( r4 spider/aud4/all skill corruptions etc for r4 ) and i can notify that i'm really a dead spider walking but anyway thinking about all the time i've spent on Anolus i suppose it's fair enough ( dunno 4 high ranks but some creep classes are underpower it's true)
About creep side i've found that people are very friendly and always try to help you expecially low ranks

Glad to see you rolled a Creep, difficult isnt it?

Hight ranks still die just as fast the difference is they have some better Battle Promotions and Regens to handle freeps, but all in all they still die way to fast to a well played/geared freep (Most are geared well since lotro is to easy these days PVE)

Originally Posted by Anolus

2 I'm a big solo roamer i'm usual to do many quests in em and every creep that camp Freep quest zone can tell you, ehm also all the questing low rank creeps i kill XD

.

Now you see why killing low rank creeps in no achievement, they cant hurt a Champ, they have no skills/triats/Audacity. Even if they buy the skills etc they will still get owned, its the Audacity/BP that make the biggest difference.

Originally Posted by Anolus

Only last 2 week i begun to group a lot cause many guys of my kin joined freep side and they needed to be teached about how it works etc

Teach them properly please, groups hunting lowbies is poor game tbh, 3 on 1 etc is no challenge against low rank creeps.

Originally Posted by Anolus

I've enjoyed many 1 vs 2 1vs 3 killing all the creeps but mostly of the time if i scout 1 or 2 wl + other i run away cause it's impossible 4 me to kill em

WLs grouped can be scary, more so if your alone, but it depends on the other class there with also. WLs can be easily (to easily) taken out of the action.

Well I have never been a 1v1 area fan, since I complain about that place, because that place used to kill the main action. But also it was a breathing place, when it turns into pew pew and melee classes like mine has to sweat in order to get 5 10 renown... But most of it that place was an arena imo where you can find most skillful players and challenge them. I hope it returns to its old good times.

And about that ''ah thats just a game, I dont give a f*** , I see a creep I kill, I dont like this place it has to be removed lets kill everyone there''.. Well... Get the f*** out of this game bro! It is not you who will decide this.. It`s easy, if you dont like, you dont go there. But if you be in your own selfish actions, then I have to ask who is the easymoder.

Every game is about respecting each other. You have to respect others opinions if you want to enjoy the game, unless if you are one of the cheaters who have totally different mentality.

And other players mostly don`t give a d*** f*** about these cheaters.

I did a load of 1v1 again today despite being attacked by randomers at times.

The problem I have with it now is that I literally don't have much of a chance against most freeps. I refuse to run Flayer because I find it boring and it doesn't suit my idea of what a Warg is supposed to be.

I am rank 8, I have a full complement of racials/class traits with rank 5 audacity currently but still fail fights against RK's who have over half morale sometimes. I spend most of my time stunned/dazed/slowed.

Champs are beatable but a decent geared one easily beats me by using all his lovely bubbles and that nasty ensured remorseless crit thingy. Minstrels and Wardens I can give a good fight but my lack of heals means they will best me in the end. Hunters are rarely seen at 1v1 these days. Burglars seem to use T&G the second combat commences and lets face it, any burg worth his salt will beat you in a 1v1 if he wants to (in shadow I mean)

Lower rankers who cant play well don't hang around the 1v1 area. I am always solo anyway so spend time hunting out targets I can 1v1 or 1v2 in other areas of the map and then when I am doing this I get abuse like the other night where some guy logged across to creep to tell me he hoped I died in a car crash...nice.

Anyways, I hope you all enjoyed the nice reknown feed I gave you all earlier, oh and nice to see you again Salahad <3

Oh and the minstrel I dueled like 4 times and lost everytime..I forgot your name but thanks and I will get you one day

TL,DR

1v1 is good for learning your class, otherwise it's just helping stat padders - Get back out there and earn your rank the intended way.

Originally Posted by Hydo5

TL,DR

1v1 is good for learning your class, otherwise it's just helping stat padders - Get back out there and earn your rank the intended way.

What way is getting your rank the intended way? If there are no rules of how to get it, people can choose themselves can't they?

Originally Posted by Hydo5

TL,DR

1v1 is good for learning your class, otherwise it's just helping stat padders - Get back out there and earn your rank the intended way.

mmmmmm....stealth at LUG GY or STAB, and kill only zero rankers or lower ranks like you?
Ignoring the higher ranks cause it means you cant get your kill?

Lame ranking, more so when you have another hobbit ezmoding burg to help you.

Show us your skill next time.

Originally Posted by Extrima

What way is getting your rank the intended way? If there are no rules of how to get it, people can choose themselves can't they?

I can choose to put my £1 into a vending machine or stick my hand up the inside of the machine and grab what I desire, providing my arm is long enough to suit my criteria. I get what I want out of the vending machine each way, but I think we can all agree which way is the intended way. See what I'm getting at?


As for you 'MessyR' high ranked creeps are more desirable to group with, therefore many of the big names on creep side have little entourages, making it harder for burglars to kill them. I do not hunt low ranks but if one comes across my screen I will certainly take it out. If you all didn't hug keeps or join zerg groups then maybe I wouldn't have to pick my fights more carefully.

Edit - I kill plenty of high ranked creeps, thank you.

Originally Posted by Hydo5

I can choose to put my £1 into a vending machine or stick my hand up the inside of the machine and grab what I desire, providing my arm is long enough to suit my criteria. I get what I want out of the vending machine each way, but I think we can all agree which way is the intended way. See what I'm getting at?

Lol seriously. Tell me how Ettenmoors is intended to be played, you can't compare how to play here with a vending machine. If someone chooses to fight someone 1vs1 it's they're choice, if "you/someone" choose to "gank greenies" at GY it's your choice. Either way you get renown/infamy is your choice and there is no strict rule how to get renown/infamy. Some ways are easier than others, difference between 1vs1 and around the map 1vs1, you have a choice who you wanna fight, there isn't that much the danger of others interfering and some/most chose to only use certain skills to make it more equal/fair.
I do prefer 1vs1 over the map than at good tol, but the chances of others joining in creep/freep is much bigger which makes it easier/harder can be good or not after what you prefer.

And at last, you don't get what you want out of the vending machine unless you win which is all up to you instead of having others doing your job/helping you.

It's funny how you all want to make your point of view the unique truth...

People play lotro to relax and have fun and everybody find a way to do it... what's the problem how people play?

If you like zerging, zerg...
If you like hide till you can kill easy target and keep high rating do it...

If you like 1v1, learn who do it on other side, wait for them to be online and organize a little tournament in a lost part of the map (AKA around ID you won't be bothered)

You really think people will write on forum :
"OMG you are totally right !!!! i was playing the game wrong !!! Ty Ty for opening my eyes to the truth !!!!!"

Originally Posted by korig

It's funny how you all want to make your point of view the unique truth...

People play lotro to relax and have fun and everybody find a way to do it... what's the problem how people play?

If you like zerging, zerg...
If you like hide till you can kill easy target and keep high rating do it...

If you like 1v1, learn who do it on other side, wait for them to be online and organize a little tournament in a lost part of the map (AKA around ID you won't be bothered)

You really think people will write on forum :
"OMG you are totally right !!!! i was playing the game wrong !!! Ty Ty for opening my eyes to the truth !!!!!"

something tells me you're mad bro