Why i'd to get bad reputation for play the game as it is?
You're all out of mind?
Anyway suckers QQ anything you do so doesn't matter what you did.
Navhar i respect you, i'm not telling to you how you had to play the game, pls don't tell me how i'd to do.
You can try to do some spar at good ta, well for me is just another pvp zone like all the others.
Soo much angry ppl... we'll you can try to made point in the wild or is too difficult for you?
P.s: My spider is in standby. Used to log it when there's too much freep to have some challenge and help creeps but well.... creep like more hate than help. :-P
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I asked several time to move 1v1 in a place where ppl don't gank others player passing trought good ta but i get harsh answer by the gods of the clubs. So well, who is the close minded? I'd to get ganked or spyed all the time i pass by Good TA just because you pretend to have your renownheaven? No sorry.
I don't care if you play it wrong for 5 years, it's never too late to correct things.
What about ask turbine to give you easyrenown sandbox 1v1?
What about stop thinking your're right and all others are wrong?
You're asking to all to respect something that's not allowed in the game (if you don't notice there's just a whole great pvp area)so imo it's you that had to ask to us if we would let you have a safe 1v1 area.
Why i'd to get bad reputation for play the game as it is?
You're all out of mind?
Anyway suckers QQ anything you do so doesn't matter what you did.
Navhar i respect you, i'm not telling to you how you had to play the game, pls don't tell me how i'd to do.
You can try to do some spar at good ta, well for me is just another pvp zone like all the others.
Soo much angry ppl... we'll you can try to made point in the wild or is too difficult for you?
P.s: My spider is in standby. Used to log it when there's too much freep to have some challenge and help creeps but well.... creep like more hate than help. :-P
Irvaard, the problem is that there is a larger section of the map, 5 keeps, 5 outposts, DoF, EC, OC, Grams, GV, DG, OR and two GY's for you to "play the game as it is", which is your opinion btw, but for some reason you feel the need to specifically go to Good TA.
I'd put it down to you taking advantage of the freeps position, hence why your spider is on standby, but that's just my opinion of you based on your actions.
Krucipisek, I'm sure you've had a few 1v1's in the past, correct me if I am wrong, but surely with all the above locations its not too hard to ask for one little spot for people to 1v1? And before you suggest moving it, why should we move something that is known to 90% of the moors?
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Navhar i respect you, i'm not telling to you how you had to play the game
Well, you said I cannot play anymore 1v1 in good ta cause you decided it's over.
Originally Posted by Arlecchino79
pls don't tell me how i'd to do.
I said nothing about that I just said you are nobody to tell others you're not allowing something anymore.
Originally Posted by Arlecchino79
You can try to do some spar at good ta, well for me is just another pvp zone like all the others.
Indeed, you're makin of good ta the same use you make with the rest of the map. Do you really need some help to gank afk players?
Originally Posted by Arlecchino79
Soo much angry ppl... we'll you can try to made point in the wild or is too difficult for you?
Are you kidding me? Difficult? I'm not playing my champ anymore in ettens cause I feel guilty usin such a weapon on unarmed creeps. Using any freep nowadays, especially if you're not new in pvp and you know how to move, is just extremely easy. Still some people do it cause of the true love they have for their freep class or their will to rank up and I perfectly understand, cause I did the same for years.
But, luckily, most of them know that the main reason why killin creeps look so easy is the huge unbalance between the two factions.
I can even understand some of you guys are pretty new here and maybe you've seen ettens only these days.
But still all of you, or the very most of you, have tried creep side. You know, you absolutely know how it it is facing a freep while on a creep. You know how much unbalanced are factions and you still dare saying you're pro cause you can kill many monsters.
I'd like to see you on spider, facing nanyun or a good or even decent guardian. Or anolus on reaver, facing a good champion.
Do you seriously think you would have a single chance? You'd just be erased in the time of half a second.
So where are skills?
Again, it's not a matter of skills but a matter of game balance and this is the main reason why 1v1 should survive. Playin 1v1 helps everybody, both sides, to improve own skills. At the same time raiding improves the sense of position durin a massive action. Both features are very useful.
Luckily many among us have spent very much time doin 1v1 and had the chance to improve very much. But you, you shouldn't waist this chance only cause, in this moment, you're playing a class/side quite easy.
You're the only one losing something: the chance to get some skills.
And, again, if you think you're pro enough, roll a creep and show us LoL.
And, last thing, "You're lettin us have a safe 1v1 area Irvard?" Really man?
Lol, do you think you represent the freep side enough to speak for it?
First: Maybe you could gank afk creeps or soloers in gta But then don't dare speakin about easymoders or easy renown. Well, nvm, keep comin gta, we need some more inf
Second: Really man? Lol. I guess what would happen if Marvels or Public Enemies or both would start patrolin gta.
Lemme guess! Would you change your mind about banishing 1v1 and hide in pve raids? Lol
Thank you for saying you respect me man. I'd like to share but I cannot, not after your last messages. I just hope it's something related to your lotro-youth.
P.S.
I challenge any single of you to personal duel (freep char vs freep char) to see your skills with my own eyes. And please don't say mine are just words, I'm offering the chance to check facts. : )
Waiting.
I asked several time to move 1v1 in a place where ppl don't gank others player passing trought good ta but i get harsh answer by the gods of the clubs. So well, who is the close minded? I'd to get ganked or spyed all the time i pass by Good TA just because you pretend to have your renownheaven? No sorry.
I don't care if you play it wrong for 5 years, it's never too late to correct things.
What about ask turbine to give you easyrenown sandbox 1v1?
What about stop thinking your're right and all others are wrong?
You're asking to all to respect something that's not allowed in the game (if you don't notice there's just a whole great pvp area)so imo it's you that had to ask to us if we would let you have a safe 1v1 area.
Please tell me where it says that 1v1 is not allowed in the game? Last I checked the description for PvMP was to fight with the free peoples against Sauron's Army.
I have asked everyone to respect a 1v1 location because it brought something different to the game, Sure there was/are a minority that dont respect it but that provides a bit of drama, just like this actually.
The fact that you say it's never too late to correct things shows that you believe you have some form of authority.
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I don't care if you play it wrong for 5 years, it's never too late to correct things.
why is ganker's ego always so bloated?
I don't get why here on forum you are all about respect and blah blah, and in ooc channel, surrounded by your poor 'proselytes' you throw &&&& to your ex kinnies.
Krucipisek, I'm sure you've had a few 1v1's in the past, correct me if I am wrong, but surely with all the above locations its not too hard to ask for one little spot for people to 1v1? And before you suggest moving it, why should we move something that is known to 90% of the moors?
i never said ppl cant do 1v1, they can. I said that idea of safe spot in middle of map is wrong. Dont flame me now but move it to DOF and everyone will be happy.
but for some reason you feel the need to specifically go to Good TA
Exactly, people that are clearly against it, tend to do anything to ruin it, even if it would be on the farest edge of the map, haters would just found another reason why it should be zerged. It's not a matter of a location, it's a matter of an attitude of some, they just set their mind on hate over anything that is involved with that place, only because they got hurted there once or twice, so if they can't do it anymore they will do anything to make it impossible for the rest of the community. Pretty egoistic way of thinking.
If you are seriously against the 1v1, if you can't stand to see people doing it then just simply avoid it, follow such players like Ichor or Kashnakh that never used the place as a spar location, yet they are great players and respect others for doing it, so they leave them be, simple. Follow them and you will reach peaks.
i never said ppl cant do 1v1, they can. I said that idea of safe spot in middle of map is wrong. Dont flame me now but move it to DOF and everyone will be happy.
No intention of flaming, If I was gonna flame, it'd be the PvP developers for the so called balance of things right now.
The idea of a safe spot is wrong, its up to people to be vigilant enough to know who was already there and who is trying to use it as a safe spot, just seems few people understand that and decide they are the superior of everyone else.
Also I see no reason to move it because before 1v1 good ta was pretty much non existent. No one used it for anything other than a map point for creeps. Since its creation it has become populated and so much so that certain people believe it destroys other action. If said other action was actually good then people wouldn't wait at 1v1.
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Navhar you're so child to want to duel everyone to prove you're right? It was a medieval tradition. We're in 2012.
Can you find in any of my post a single sentence where i say that i'm pro? (i feel just an average player, surely not the best champ of the server like you keep spamming around) I also talk abot game balance somewhere?
IF you don't understand english i can tell you in italian, but pls don't bring discussion to your side with fake argument.
I'm also not talking for anyone i'm just talking for myself.
All your bla bla bla honestly is not changing the key point. This discussion is becoming a bit boring as seem that all the 1v1 pretender don't seem to understand that they're asking other ppl to play like they want.
I'll simply act as good ta is a pvp area like anyone on the map.
If you want your clubbing pls consider move in a spot of the map where who don't like clubbing and just want to play pvp don't need to pass by. (there's tons of spot that could be used, and in other server many use different place)
Actually Good TA is probably the central area of the game, ppl pass by for going to HH, OC, LC, EC, TA etc...
P.s.: I would like to play my spider in the future but i don't really like creep side attitude, it's just a QQ feast and when someone try to do something like i did, the just tell you that they don't want get farmed etc and go afk, hide in 1v1 etc... honestly it's not the playstile that i enjoy. Also we could open a discussion about balance but surely not there. (also if i think that guardians is not at all an OP class an can be beat easily from many ranked creeps. Name One? Flyer kiting warg can't lose vs guardians)
Last edited by Arlecchino79; Jul 06 2012 at 04:02 PM.
Navhar you're so child to want to duel everyone to prove you're right? It was a medieval tradition. We're in 2012.
A pvp player in a pvp forum discussin about player versus player saying having a duel would make no sense, ahahahah. No comment. I expected that kind of answer and mums skirts
Originally Posted by Arlecchino79
Actually Good TA is probably the central area of the game, ppl pass by for going to HH, OC, LC, EC, TA etc...
Indeed and so? What happens if a freep wants to quest in HH and passes in gta while others are duellin? Nothing. What's wrong with that? Nothing.
Well if when you pass by you keep get spyed and killed by ppl sitting down in 1v1 area there's some problem...
I'm thinking about what will happen if you lose a duel that you ask for... are you going to suicide or falling into depression?
Well if you want spar me to prove youre better it's ok, we can spar where you want with your champ and me with my tank so you can prove your argument are right and that i'm a noob.
Lots of post, not lots of time within them. Let me adress a couple of points.
ONE Noble prizes: This has no difference concerning being smart. Would you reckon being smart is equal to receiving a noble prize? This means around 300 people are smart and the rest is morons. Please try to troll more thorough, this makes absolutely no sense. Nice try though.
TWO Irvaard, you asked for another position? Clearly you haven't been there in November, where it was actually MOVED to Good LC, both sides were camping Good TA for MONTHS and yet Good LC was ganked by the Prasi/Kenzei gang. There was no sign of 1v1ing, apart from the Log-on-XFire-And-Ask-The-1v1like 1v1s. However, this means that moving won't help for the majority of people. You are talking about easymoding. Navhar is talking about easymoding; they will keep doing it despite the spot. And I know, and most people know, that 1v1 will be ganked, whether this is at gTA, gLC or even Plains of Grams OP.
THREE We played wrong for 5 years, now there's some kid wanting to change it because it is wrong in his view. If we would have played wrongly for 5 years, why do players that actually DO have something worthy to say (Argick, Etheldar and Itzy for example) state that it was working. And obviously, as you can see (I hope you can), that this is not working at all.
FOUR Again, stop talking about this easymoding. You are nearly grouping 80% of your time in ettenmoors, you are hardly running around solo, and if you are, you are running AWAY instead of fighting. Easymoding doesn't mean getting fast points, but the way you get points. If I kill 3 creeps, I get nearly 400 renown. That are fast points, is this easymoding? No, it's a combination of my skill and the imbalance in Ettenmoors at the moment. As Navhar stated, the imbalance makes freeps more "powerful" against (hopeless) creeps. However the team playing of creeps can show how good you are though. And I can clearly recall a couple of guardians that were a LOT better than you Irvaard, even though some quit before you started playing. Both in pve as in pvp. Same counts for you Anolus, but then with champs. I doubt you'd even know the legendary Champion Salborn, or Ubba even (though Ubba played in RoI).
FIVE Kruci, I already discussed this with you before, the spot doesn't matter. As you can read what happened in Point TWO.
SIX Good TA isn't the bloody centre area in Snowbourn PvP. The actual central area has been TA Lawn and will be. People pass that to go everywhere, because there's always a group of freeps or creeps running if you want to do a quest. Good TA has been a bit more further away from the action. The closest quest you can do there is Rockwithers. Players hardly quest there and if they do, some people even help the player with the quest. Would you like to run around on your creep and be instantly zerged when doing a quest near good TA ? Is that the way you want to play this game? Oh wait, you are already!
SEVEN ... WE AREN'T ASKING YOU AT ALL HOW YOU SHOULD PLAY! When will you bloody learn it? You are playing your own game according to yourself, but we are playing together in a Massively Multiplayer Online game. Which means, on internet, A lot and players playing the game. We play together and against in pvp, so ''playing your own game'' is actually a huge failure term in this game. If you want to play your own game, go play skyrim. There's no pvp and you can do whatever you want. Just like minecraft. But in an MMO it's not the attitude we look for
EIGHT AND LAST In the years I've been around, I HAVE NEVER seen a player that mentioned QQ on LotRO. At least, not all the time, just like you are. Maybe only once as a joke. The only one I remember doing it was Vinci. From now on, shall I call you Vinci 2.0? I bet you'd like that!
You're the only one losing something: the chance to get some skills.
And, again, if you think you're pro enough, roll a creep and show us LoL.
Yep actually he might be thinking he is pro. Grouped 24/7, flipping keeps, ganking 1v1, always sprinting away. As someone said before 1v1 existed before you started playing this game, you should respect it and this: You're asking to all to respect something that's not allowed in the game (if you don't notice there's just a whole great pvp area)so imo it's you that had to ask to us if we would let you have a safe 1v1 area.' &&& is that? I don't 1v1 almost at all but I do respect it and most of players do so, some people are just too stupid to understand it I guess, and Kruci? Saying 1v1 doesn't exist? So when you did 1v1 it was good that it was where it was but now u want that area to be moved? And Kruci one more thing hug store more, could you track some wargs for me? Or lend me some immunity brands oh damn....I forgot they're bound... Hahaha no more questions from me. Oh and btw you didn't need to use brand while u went for afk spider and whole group was behind your back ;D
Last edited by drzymaly1234; Jul 06 2012 at 06:41 PM.
Yep I am, I'm not really keen on playing with a pocket captain or a guardian who would shield wall me but some people do like it, probably they feel better that way. Won't be calling names again because they would repeat but there are also many others, unfortunetely. For some people fact that freeps are already strong solo is not enough. Someone will now probably say you're minstrel blablabla so? I started playing long time ago, not like some pr0 players that started with RoI when some classes became hard to kill.
Yup i know you all thinks:
" Dude you are the last person who should post this thread"
or,
" You want 1v1 back so you can powerrank, or someone to gank?"
For that i dont care.
I want 1v1 back, and i know someone wants also.
Lets just try it man, we had some epic 1v1 during december 2011, right since it's been miserable.
With this said, come on guys lets try it again, and pls do not bother me with comments about how much i've ganked.
Good TA shall rise again !
Cu!
What the h*ll i'm reading? One of the master gankers want his 1v1 back to club more? cmon son. Thats just silly. Go cry in your corner. You are one of the reasons that people stopped go to 1v1 since you abused them. So dont come here and whine, kids these days...
and Kruci? Saying 1v1 doesn't exist? So when you did 1v1 it was good that it was where it was but now u want that area to be moved? And Kruci one more thing hug store more, could you track some wargs for me? Or lend me some immunity brands oh damn....I forgot they're bound... Hahaha no more questions from me. Oh and btw you didn't need to use brand while u went for afk spider and whole group was behind your back ;D
so here are your answers:
1] on GTA i did like 5 spars long time ago and whats wrong with it? i didnt say that its is/was good. I saw many times wargs hiding there and following ppl who roam around. Creeps try hide there before fight or in middle of fight.... For me ettens is open pvp area.
2] show me player who didn buy anything from store, stat tomes - unlock skills - etc.... 90% of players did it. So leave me alone or dont be jealous u dont have money for it
3] sorry but u must earn things by own dont beg them from others. or ask parents for money to get them. I am not charity.
4] its ilegal to use ettens vendor insignia before fight? u think ppl are dumb like xrays? afk spider in middle of tr fields with 10 wargs around? next time try use that thing on your neck
I have no question on u coz u are dull person for me
2] show me player who didn buy anything from store, stat tomes - unlock skills - etc.... 90% of players did it. So leave me alone or dont be jealous u dont have money for it
Oh....so it's not from lottery then? You almost got us...hahaha
At 4. Nope, but u use store ones almost in every fight it makes me laugh so hard
And talking about being "rich"
Luckily I don't need money to show my skill, in your case your skill is money in my it's just me )
I'm not buying it because I don't want to be like you
Poor Irvaard, now that Eowden is gone, some brave™ people found a dwarf espiatorio. I see a pattern there.
Originally Posted by drzymaly1234
Yep I am, I'm not really keen on playing with a pocket captain or a guardian who would shield wall me but some people do like it, probably they feel better that way. Won't be calling names again because they would repeat but there are also many others, unfortunetely. For some people fact that freeps are already strong solo is not enough. Someone will now probably say you're minstrel blablabla so? I started playing long time ago, not like some pr0 players that started with RoI when some classes became hard to kill.
Give my best regards to Domaros, Katee, and Zilona, it's obviously hard to solo on warg nowadays... for some
Wine Wine Wine. Dry Dry Dry. What will it be today ?...
Beer!
~Me
Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe.
Oh....so it's not from lottery then? You almost got us...hahaha (
I dont need explain what and where i get. Specialy not to u. If u have some problem u can write ticket or send it to /dev/null
Originally Posted by drzymaly1234
At 4. Nope, but u use store ones almost in every fight it makes me laugh so hard (
I tough u done with basic school, may be time to visit it again. For u i will repeat slowly basic exercise. DRZYMALY bought 50 items in store. Each item have 5min CD and they share CD. DRZYMALY played for 40 hours. if u dont get right number go to parents may be they will help u with it.
I would like to laught so hard but anyway its so SAD when some young person cant count
Originally Posted by drzymaly1234
And talking about being "rich"
Luckily I don't need money to show my skill, in your case your skill is money in my it's just me )
I'm not buying it because I don't want to be like you
1)Luckily there is no skill by u
2)stop lying
PS: your nick excellently represent your character DRZYMALY = LITTLE-IMPUDENT (grow up)
Last edited by Krucipisek; Jul 07 2012 at 04:01 AM.
What about stop the hate and try to find a solution.
I would like to try to move again 1v1 in some other place.
Sure someone will keep coming there and gank but well all the others players that don't want to 1v1 don't have to go around good ta.
Honestly i don't understand all the ppl that say good ta is not a key spot for pvp. in 6 month never happen to me to pass trought Good LC but everyday i pass by good ta at least 10 times (well now more :P)
In a sign of mutual respect we could find a solution that's good for all? Surely if i keep get answer like : we chose from the ages that setup we're right you're nobody is not a good sign to respect for who just want to play regular pvp.
P.s: For who say that ppl keep gank at good LC. Moving 1v1 will never stop someone gank good lc but at least allow player that want just play pvp the freedom to pass by good ta without being spyed or ganked by ppl sitting there.
Last edited by Arlecchino79; Jul 07 2012 at 06:50 AM.
There's no need for a mutual solution when just 2 of you or are complainin about that spot Irv..
When 15-20 mixed players will do it, included some players that usually take part to the 1v1 action, then we could consider a "mutual" decision. Atm is the opinion of 2-3 vs the opinion of all the rest so, I'm sorry about those 2-3, I don't think someone really cares about, especially if those 2-3 keep showing they miss some basic respect towards others.
And if those 2-3 are going to do the best they can to ruin the fun others are having in gta, well, those 2-3 will be ganked back. It's part of the game and everybody is used to. And if those 2-3 are going to form raids with that single purpose, well, expect some raids back.
Give my best regards to Domaros, Katee, and Zilona, it's obviously hard to solo on warg nowadays... for some
I was writing about completely something else, but some people aren't that smart, right Fredol?
And u Kruci I won't be wasting more time on you. The only thing u can do is spread lies around and insult people. Those numbers are taken from the bottom of your fat &&&, as is the rest bull&&&& you wrote. 0 arguments, 0 brain. Thank you both for this you just proved how "mature" you are.
The only thing u can do is spread lies around and insult people.
Originally Posted by drzymaly1234
At 4. Nope, but u use store ones almost in every fight it makes me laugh so hard (
Those numbers are taken from the bottom of your fat &&&, as is the rest bull&&&& you wrote.
Didnt u catch yourself that u spread lies around and insult ppl?
Originally Posted by drzymaly1234
0 arguments, 0 brain. Thank you both for this you just proved how "mature" you are.
Kids always say that when they dont know what else to say
Originally Posted by drzymaly1234
bottom of your fat &&&, as is the rest bull&&&&
This show us how u are mature u LITTLE-IMPUDENT
Last edited by Krucipisek; Jul 07 2012 at 09:56 AM.
Well as everyone have their own opinion and is impossible find an agreement let's everyone play the game like he want. (inside the rules).
No need to continue that thread.
Bb, see you, cheers have fun with the game.
I've been waiting for you to answer me in my last 2 posts but you haven't responded.
It's not impossible to agree but first I'd like to know why you think Good TA is a "key" pvp location. PvP never happened at Good TA which is why the 1v1 was place there in the first place. You never saw people fighting over Rocky and raid fights never occurred there.
Now because we have the 1v1 area, people pass it for whatever purpose with very few people passing it innocently. If you feel that too many people are sitting at 1v1 then perhaps you should do something to make the action around the map just that bit more exciting.
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Sorry argik think that i've answer why gta is not a good place for 1v1 imo.
It's a place where many times ppl pass by, going away|coming to ec, lc, oc, ta ford, hh, spiders etc... I use a lot pass around with my raid when i cross river, i user a lot with my burg when going to oc in stealth or to hh.
Sadly get ganked several time by ppl sitting there or spyed as soon as i pass from gta. If as soon as i reach the other side of the river i get 10xtracked on burg, probably someone say something in ooc.
Also wargs and others wait you pass by and follow you and attack you.
I could continue, but nothing seem that will change so no problem. I'll just need and want to consider good ta as any other place in the map as i don't want to buy store track to check if there's warg in sealth every time i pass there or made a list to check for every creep sitting there.
I just don't want and i think that it's sad that one is forced by other player to respect something where ppl don't respect you.
So all my action will follow this simple rules : EM is an open area.
As i said there's tons of other large empty area around the map where no one will pass by but seem that this doesn't interest the gods of the etten.
Last edited by Arlecchino79; Jul 07 2012 at 12:24 PM.
Sorry argik think that i've answer why gta is not a good place for 1v1 imo.
It's a place where many times ppl pass by, going away|coming to ec, lc, oc, ta ford, hh, spiders etc... I use a lot pass around with my raid when i cross river, i user a lot with my burg when going to oc in stealth or to hh.
Sadly get ganked several time by ppl sitting there or spyed as soon as i pass from gta. If as soon as i reach the other side of the river i get 10xtracked on burg, probably someone say something in ooc.
Also wargs and others wait you pass by and follow you and attack you.
I could continue, but nothing seem that will change so no problem. I'll just need and want to consider good ta as any other place in the map as i don't want to buy store track to check if there's warg in sealth every time i pass there or made a list to check for every creep sitting there.
I just don't want and i think that it's sad that one is forced by other player to respect something where ppl don't respect you.
So all my action will follow this simple rules : EM is an open area.
As i said there's tons of other large empty area around the map where no one will pass by but seem that this doesn't interest the gods of the etten.
people spy on your position because you are a ganker. nobody spyes on honest freeps passing by.
Not true, it begin month before i start consider gta as a pvp area. (1 week ago)
P.s.: Stop say lie if you don't have anything to say.
I read creep OOC more than you do and the only people we used to 'spy' position where Galania, Eowene etc....
I have more to say then what I actually do.