Lately there have been quite a few new Creeps roaming around the Moors and I know many of them need some help.
I will attempt to give you a quick, and as short as possible, intro. Now I am not a high level Creep and by far not the resident expert in the Moors, in fact I am only active in the moors for about a year and not a full time Creep, but I am sure some others will fill in the blanks, fix my boo boo's etc...
I do have a Freep (Free people) but tend to Creep 95% of the time in the Moors as of late.
Before I start here are a few Dont's:
Don't spam, OOC.
Don't blind invite people to groups and tribes this will get you ignored.
Don't Pounce burgs. LOL (There are exceptions to this rule. You will learn them in time.)
Don't worry. You are new. You will die a lot.
Don't say “over here....” Use the list below and North / West etc., and try to be specific as this will help locate you if you need help, especially in a raid.
Do's:
Get Ventrilo (Vent). (Thank you for all who make Vent available). Many creeps use it to communicate so even if you solo you can kind of focus on Freeps. Raids can sometimes be vent only so having vent is a great way to get in on those raids. Teamspeak is not as popular, but some groups do use it.
Do enable in-game Voice. Even if you don’t have a mic, it, or Vent, are often required by Raid leaders.
Do the intro. It's fast and easy basically running around the Gramsfoot area talking to some NPCs. It should take 5 minutes.
Do learn the lingo... Here is a bit of assistance on that matter. I am covering the basics ones you will learn more as you go on.
The OOC channel is usually used for general communications. The Trade channel is usually used for Targetting (e.g. "Targeting Kelsan!"). LFF, Trade, Regional, etc., are rarely used and often ignored.
What we say= what we are talking about
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Grams = Gramsfoot the creep home base per say.
GV = Glan Vraig the Freep home base
TA = tol ascarnen (it's the keep in the very center of the map)
TA Lawn = the large grassy area in front of TA it wraps west around the keep.
BEACH = The area below TA lawn west of STAB
STAB = this the South TA Bridge.. The bridge south of the TA keep
WTAB = this the bridge West of the TA keep.
Lugz = this is the keep south of Gramsfoot called Lugazag
EC = Elf Camp
LY = Lumber Yard (sometimes called LC, for Lumber Camp)
DG = Dar-Gazag south west of Lugazag where the relics are kept (don't worry about what the relics are for now, you'll get there)
OC = Orc Camp
OP = outpost , there are 5 of them .. Freeps and Creeps need to control two of them to get into the Delving.
The names of the 5 Outposts are AE (Aradors End) , Isendeep, Plains, River and South (Google “Ettenmoores map” for their location lol)
CHODE = The area of water you can walk across (between TA and OC)
TR = Tirith Rhaw, this is the central part of the map but all the way east.
Isen / The Mine = is the Isendeep mine all the way east of Gramsfoot
Rez = rez circle so lugz rez and tr rez are the two rez circles
Do get your maps, maps, maps.....
It's boring, it's not easy but you need your maps. So loot every troll, and farm everything. Bears, coldfells, norborgs, hobbits, dwarves, men, elves, fallen logs, saplings, wood, eagles...
I can go on and on.... You need this stuff for your maps.
What are your maps?
Ok you don't have a horse and you need to get around the map. Creeps get maps. How do I get maps you say? Good question.
First of all you need to get your 1 minuet map back to Gramsfoot. Visit soldier falturz in Gramsfoot. He will have the following quest for you to do.
Get to Grothum maggot
Into the Grimwood
To Tirith Rhaw
To Tol Ascarnen
Report to Lugazag
Repot to Dar-Gazag maggot
Scout all areas to complete note: Grothum, Dar-Gazag and Lugz you actually need to talk to an NPC. The other 3 are just scouting.
Ok now you have you 1 minute map.
Work on you other maps as often as you can. Each keep: Ta, Lugz, TR, LY, and Isendeep, has 3 maps to get.
Each area has a crude map, a poor map and a good map, each putting you in an area around the keep. You can check you deed log for progress on these maps (i.e. Lugazag travel tier 1 or 2 etc...) after 10 quest for that keep you will get the crude map. Once you get your crude map you will need to do 15 quests to get your poor map. Ok 25 more quests and you have you good map. You will find in raids leaders like to utilize maps to ninja keeps for flanks so if you don't have them you might be left to hoof/ paw it to catch up missing out on Commendations and Infamy.
Each map has cool-downs. Crude maps have a 30m cool-down. If you have 2 or 3 crude maps they are on a shared cool-down. So if you use one the others are on cool down. Poor maps have a 10 min cool-down. Same applies here, they are all on a shared cool down so if you use one poor map the others go on cool down good maps have a 5 min cool-down. They used to be on separate cool-downs, but that changed and now they also share a cool-down.
A good start is to get your crude TA map which will allow you map into OC.
While trying to do all this do play. Kill and be killed. Learn your class solo and its responsibility in raids.
Do get in a raid when you can. While in a raid the most important thing to do is listen and follow instructions. This will give you the most kills and infamy. Different raid leaders lead in different ways so don't assume you know what you will be doing. If he says target this person do it. If he says push, you push. You will die and hey you might be rezzed. It's all part of the game. You will learn most classes have their places in raids and the leaders know how to utilize those classes.
Target assist: use it. Open your social panel, click on the raid tab and check the box on the bottom that says target assist. This will put an assist window on the left-ish bottom of your screen. When in a raid the leader will set up target assistants which will target Freeps. You will now be able to just click on the Freep on the target assist and start killing it lol
Ask for help and you will get it most of the time. Like it here. Join a tribe and have fun..
Feel free to ask me questions in game, and if I can, I will take you around and try to show you some basics. I am usually up for groups but like my “me” time as much as the other Creeps, so good luck. /wave
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Some formatting, minor edits, additions, and tweaks by l4j – aka Crunchwulf
Channel usage and location names are specific to Vilya, but in many cases will apply on other servers.
This has been a useful thread on the Vilya PvMP forum and it was suggested we share it with a wider audience. I claim credit for nothing save some edits and re-posting it here. Questions, comments, etc., are probably best directed towards the original author or myself on Vilya.
Very nice post, but I do say TeamSpeak > Ventrillo
Different people have different experiences with those two. On Vilya, where this was focused, most of the Raid leaders use Vent over TS. I know some of the Freepside Kins swing the other way. I mentioned both and, of course, different servers will have different preferences.
Though, having used both, I've noticed a bigger performance hit on my system from TS than Vent.
Don't say “over here....” Use the list below and North / West etc., and try to be specific as this will help locate you if you need help, especially in a raid.
This. Give as much useful info as you can. If you know the landmarks, use them. if you don't try your best. This comes to freep counts. "A lot", "A bunch", "Tons" are not counts. You don't need to nail the count down exactly, but give a best guess range. 5 to 7, 10 to 14, 15 to 20, etc.
Newbie: HELP!
Creep: What?
Newbie: The freeps are killing me! They're here!
Creep: Where's here?
Newbie: Here! By the water!
Creep: Oh...well..how many are there?
Newbie: A lot!
Creep: Oh. So there's a lot of freeps killing you by the water?
Newbie: Yes!
Creep: With no useful information, good luck.
If I may, I recommend: http://dailystats.theblackappendage....monster-manual (the site is down atm due to issues, but should be back in a couple days). Great source of info on everything creepside. There's also a map with locations (some are specific to Elendilmir) that might be useful, but I can't get the address since the site is down :P.
Why in the world is it called CHODE on your server? I don't get it. We just call it landbridge, or OC landbridge.
You know . . . I have no idea why it's called Choad on Vilya. I've asked, but no one's had a good answer. My guess is it's one of those things that "someone called it that back in the day" and it stuck. That's one of the landmarks that seems to change more per-server than the others. LY is the other one. Lumber Yard vs Lumber Camp. Just seems to be a tradition for one or the other on a given server.
Take away for the new players is: "What a landmark is called on your server may be different. But learn them, know them, use them."
If I may, I recommend: http://dailystats.theblackappendage....monster-manual (the site is down atm due to issues, but should be back in a couple days). Great source of info on everything creepside. There's also a map with locations (some are specific to Elendilmir) that might be useful, but I can't get the address since the site is down :P.
Site's back up As a side note, I think the above mentioned monster manual is pretty much the largest and probably the most up to date across the board (we did a massive update when the RoI came out)... but i'm biased We also consider it a community site so anyone can log on, hit edit, and help make it better
Oh and my sig is a series of links for American server PvMP maps. Several maps are already filled in with their specific locations.
Site's back up As a side note, I think the above mentioned monster manual is pretty much the largest and probably the most up to date across the board (we did a massive update when the RoI came out)... but i'm biased We also consider it a community site so anyone can log on, hit edit, and help make it better
Oh and my sig is a series of links for American server PvMP maps. Several maps are already filled in with their specific locations.
Thanks for the input and the links. Much appreciated!
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