Thread: Please, put more effort in this game, as its my favorite game ever.

Please!, dont let us down, as games like this wont exist in future, this game has the most beutifules lore ever. i would really be sad if this game closes down

effort = money ?

Yes,but ive played the game years ago.. so im grown up with the game to, and im back.. but i lost my real account to the migration Thingie in 2011

I'm sure that if the Corporate Big Wigs ie Warner Brothers gave the developers ie Turbine more money than it costs to run the international space station we would see the greatest game ever to grace our collective conciousness.... Alas, the developers have to work with the meager fees and tight dead line that they are offered by the Big wigs

Well, i hope im not worried for nothing then?

This game has at least a few years in it still I am sure

Thanks for this, but il try to support the game as long i can

Don't we all in one way or another

I'm confused. What is it that makes you think Turbine is not putting enough effort into the game? Considering all the work they're obviously putting into RoR, I'm having trouble understanding where you're coming from.

Originally Posted by Fionnuala

I'm confused. What is it that makes you think Turbine is not putting enough effort into the game? Considering all the work they're obviously putting into RoR, I'm having trouble understanding where you're coming from.

I'm thinking this is a language thing. Poster seems to mean he/she is afraid the game is going to end soon.

Dear Blizzard.

Please put more effort into your games, WOW and D3. If at any point you begin to fail, and the iron walls of that great mental assylum should fall our great cities on a hill will be under seige by a terrible and fearsome enemy. Not even Sapience could defend our fair city from the ruthless and savage army of mental patients that will come pouring into our great city.

Hold the line marines, so that we can live in peace and prosperity in our cities of mmo heaven.

It's just a game. If it stays around good, if not, I'll find another game to play. I can't see finding one that I'll enjoy as much as this one though, and NO, it won't be the one by ArenaNet.

Well, there is no danger of the game closing down in the next few years (possible but very unlikely).

Originally Posted by Fionnuala

I'm confused. What is it that makes you think Turbine is not putting enough effort into the game? Considering all the work they're obviously putting into RoR, I'm having trouble understanding where you're coming from.

Here is why you could say not enough effort is put into the game: no housing update for 5 years, break promises like a new PvMP map, break promises and delay content (Dragoich raid) because you don't have enough staff to work on the game; never put out any other hobbies (again not enough resources); never improve the kinship tools, never give any real love to PvMP; put out content that players view as rushed and unfinished; put out expansions that are much smaller than Moria (more of a standard MMO expansion); not fix long time bugs; not fix bugs identified in beta testing (because you don't have enough staff to do this); not have enough resources to finish the instance finder ... do you want me to go on. So yes, it is reasonable to ask them to put more effort into the game.

Now to be fair, there have been many game improvements that have been introduced since the game was launched; and excellent content has been produced. But clearly they are not investing enough to produce fuller expansions and fix long-standing bugs.

I too wish they would put more effort into making this truly a great game.

I think most of WB funding is unfortunately going into that dire Lotr arena battle game. I think I died a little inside when I saw the trailer for that...

Originally Posted by Cindir

Well, there is no danger of the game closing down in the next few years (possible but very unlikely).



Here is why you could say not enough effort is put into the game: no housing update for 5 years, break promises like a new PvMP map, break promises and delay content (Dragoich raid) because you don't have enough staff to work on the game; never put out any other hobbies (again not enough resources); never improve the kinship tools, never give any real love to PvMP; put out content that players view as rushed and unfinished; put out expansions that are much smaller than Moria (more of a standard MMO expansion); not fix long time bugs; not fix bugs identified in beta testing (because you don't have enough staff to do this); not have enough resources to finish the instance finder ... do you want me to go on. So yes, it is reasonable to ask them to put more effort into the game.

Now to be fair, there have been many game improvements that have been introduced since the game was launched; and excellent content has been produced. But clearly they are not investing enough to produce fuller expansions and fix long-standing bugs.

I too wish they would put more effort into making this truly a great game.

Again, it is NOT effort they lack. It's a vision for the future. They're doing a lot and working hard, but always on something new leaving unfinished and abandoned systems in their wake. They need a strong lead designer to take over and insist on having things their way.

The game has been wandering from one priority to the next for the last 5 updates. The main story is still going well, but the systems and mechanics keep getting revamped and added on to when they should be wrapping up old projects and tying up all the many loose ends.

Unfortunately, the design cycle of an older game changes into this sort of tottering random package of gimmicks, one offs and novelties and then everyone is told "STOP! Pencils down!" And the next out of the blue project begins.

There is no long term game plan besides pushing enough content to make enough money to get to Mordor.

Luckily, the real core of the game (Angmar, Moria and the Epic Story) is good enough that a lot of us still play regularly. But if they'd stuck to ONE project for the last 5 updates and really focused (while still releasing new story and areas) instead of jumping from Skirmishes, to instance finder, to horse fighting, to Scaling Old Stuff, we might have something good AND finished.

It's not lack of talent. It's not lack of effort, and it's not intentional on the developer's part. They just do what they're told and work on what they are allowed to. If you want to blame someone or something, it's a corporate issue, not art and code or heart and effort.

Originally Posted by Nymphonic

It's just a game. If it stays around good, if not, I'll find another game to play. I can't see finding one that I'll enjoy as much as this one though, and NO, it won't be the one by ArenaNet.

If and when a screen like this appears from Turbine to us, I will be sad

Great post Hex. I agree with everything. I would not say any staff needs to put more effort in to the game - I meant Turbine needs to put in more "effort" by hiring more staff.

Thank you to all the hard working staff at Turbine - it is an amazing and beautiful world you are creating. All the things that you are able to do are appreciated.

Corporations are people, my friend. Actually, no, they are the opposite.

I'm just glad that Turbine's artists and writers have made this beautiful game, and that they are continuing to innovate in spite of their uninspired, talentless, walking-organ-farm corporates who suckle the teets of their talants.

I've played MMOs since Ultima Online and before that I dreamed about them. LOTRO is what MMOs were meant to be. Flaws and all this is the best product on the market, and has great integrity.

Thank you, and if the hairgel crew ever pulls the plug give me the kickstarter addy. I bought the legendary pre-order because I feel that LOTRO is a great place to invest my money.

Yeah, get with it Turbine, and don't screw things up! *snaps fingers*



Just kidding, of course. If the next five years are as good as the last five I'll be very happy indeed.

Originally Posted by Nakiami

effort = money ?

No. Its about all the things you cant buy with money! Dedication.

Originally Posted by hex2323

Again, it is NOT effort they lack. It's a vision for the future.

Yes. This Equals what F2P means. The evolution of the game just stops.
And no. There are no plans about getting to Mordor if it isnt already 'available' in some form that doesnt need further investments into content development.

It's not lack of talent. It's not lack of effort, and it's not intentional on the developer's part. They just do what they're told and work on what they are allowed to. If you want to blame someone or something, it's a corporate issue, not art and code or heart and effort.

You TEARJERKER ^^ I see all those poor and mistreaded-by-corporate devs with there big watered puppy-eyes.
And why do they commit all there 'talent' to a corporate-desaster like this? I know they would start to starve in aninstant, those talented people, right?

You know whats one of the most importent roles in gamedevelopment? The Producer. Wich is a corporate guy.

And making F2P games is like begging. You do them when you are unable to make money with your own hands work.

Originally Posted by bastardoGrande

No. Its about all the things you cant buy with money! Dedication.





Yes. This Equals what F2P means. The evolution of the game just stops.
And no. There are no plans about getting to Mordor if it isnt already 'available' in some form that doesnt need further investments into content development.



You TEARJERKER ^^ I see all those poor and mistreaded-by-corporate devs with there big watered puppy-eyes.
And why do they commit all there 'talent' to a corporate-desaster like this? I know they would start to starve in aninstant, those talented people, right?

You know whats one of the most importent roles in gamedevelopment? The Producer. Wich is a corporate guy.

And making F2P games is like begging. You do them when you are unable to make money with your own hands work.

You have absolutely no clue how this industry works, do you?

Originally Posted by hex2323

Again, it is NOT effort they lack. It's a vision for the future. They're doing a lot and working hard, but always on something new leaving unfinished and abandoned systems in their wake. They need a strong lead designer to take over and insist on having things their way.

The game has been wandering from one priority to the next for the last 5 updates. The main story is still going well, but the systems and mechanics keep getting revamped and added on to when they should be wrapping up old projects and tying up all the many loose ends.

Unfortunately, the design cycle of an older game changes into this sort of tottering random package of gimmicks, one offs and novelties and then everyone is told "STOP! Pencils down!" And the next out of the blue project begins.

There is no long term game plan besides pushing enough content to make enough money to get to Mordor.

Luckily, the real core of the game (Angmar, Moria and the Epic Story) is good enough that a lot of us still play regularly. But if they'd stuck to ONE project for the last 5 updates and really focused (while still releasing new story and areas) instead of jumping from Skirmishes, to instance finder, to horse fighting, to Scaling Old Stuff, we might have something good AND finished.

It's not lack of talent. It's not lack of effort, and it's not intentional on the developer's part. They just do what they're told and work on what they are allowed to. If you want to blame someone or something, it's a corporate issue, not art and code or heart and effort.

This is a great assessment. I agree completely. Unfortunately, I can't give you more rep yet.

Just buy GW2 and see how much effort arenanet put into creating a game.*








*I have to add that its in beta stages atm so you wont get to play straight away