Thema: Discovering the Descendant Deed

I have had all the deeds (sub-deeds?) for the Discovering the Descendant deed for a while except one: Worse for Wear. Now I'm sure there was a quest I did at the very beginning of this called Worse for Wear. But it wasn't counted on my deeds. Has this happened for anybody? Or is there still yet another quest we do with the same name? I would like to get this complete, but I fear this may be an issue. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Zitat von DylanColt

I have had all the deeds (sub-deeds?) for the Discovering the Descendant deed for a while except one: Worse for Wear. Now I'm sure there was a quest I did at the very beginning of this called Worse for Wear. But it wasn't counted on my deeds. Has this happened for anybody? Or is there still yet another quest we do with the same name? I would like to get this complete, but I fear this may be an issue. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Aha. I bet you did the Worse for Wear quest in Combe. There's another one, same title, ALMOST the same tasks, that you get from Eogar after you've done all the chores in Combe.

Note that on the quest you get from Combe, you go to a certain blacksmith, he tells you what to bring him, and you find it lying around his immediate vicinity.

The NEXT time you get it, from Eogar, it's a different blacksmith and you go to different locations to get the stuff. (Use your 'm' map and quest tracker. If you want more specific locations, mail me and I'll elaborate. Some people, for some strange reason, hate spoilers.)

Well, don't worry...
the earlier worse for wear indeed does not count.
The available deeds are randomly picked.
I myself still need herding the Trollshaws,
it seems it has been available once at Evernight,
but I missed it. It WILL come again though,
even though there's no telling when that will be.

That was the last quest I needed as well. Finished this last night, was pretty sweet.

Ah, okay, thanks! I thought it may be another quest to do, and that it may not...I have to say, I don't think I like how there's another quest named that.

Thanks again!

For me after 15 days of trying I still have not seen "Bed Bugs Bite".

The "Herding to the North Downs" I have seen once.

I have done "Herding to Trollshaw" 3 times

"Herding to Lone Lands" twice

"Every last drop" twice.

So that means Wear, Feed and the race have been given to me 22 out of 30 times total.

So that means the quest randomness is not really that random.

Well I hope I do get to finish the deed before RoR is released.

Zitat von Maxal

So that means Wear, Feed and the race have been given to me 22 out of 30 times total.

So that means the quest randomness is not really that random.

Well I hope I do get to finish the deed before RoR is released.

What makes you think that isn't random?

Every day, you have a 1 in 4 chance of each of quests in each set (the sets are independent of each other). The sequences you're seeing are typical of random numbers.

We get this sort of claim every time someone sees an unusual run of numbers in crafting. You need several hundred test runs to determine if the numbers are random or not. In every test with a valid sample size, Turbine's RNG has been shown to be random within normal statistical limits.

--W. H. Heydt

Old Used Programmer

I wouldn't call them random at all! I have come everyday and Eogar has had the same 2 quests 5 days in a row! I have done them every single day and I am a little tired of it. Please give me something else so I can finish the deed.

pardon my ignorance, but i assume this questline is only active on test server? or is this something on live that pertains to the upcoming expansion

Zitat von Bellowyn

pardon my ignorance, but i assume this questline is only active on test server? or is this something on live that pertains to the upcoming expansion

It's on the live servers - I think it's given to people who pre-ordered the expansion but not sure if it's for all the pre-release versions.

Zitat von beastybunny

I wouldn't call them random at all! I have come everyday and Eogar has had the same 2 quests 5 days in a row! I have done them every single day and I am a little tired of it. Please give me something else so I can finish the deed.

If a thousand people are flipping coins, somebody is probably going to get heads five times in a row. That's what WH was trying to explain. Random does not mean evenly distributed.

Zitat von Maxal

So that means the quest randomness is not really that random.

Zitat von beastybunny

I wouldn't call them random at all! I have come everyday and Eogar has had the same 2 quests 5 days in a row!

I'm continually taken aback reading stuff like this. A nice even rotation of all the quests would, by definition, be totally *non* random. Streaks are an indication that the RNG *is* working, you were just unlucky. This should be perfectly clear from the fact that other people on different servers and/or doing the quests on different days to you got different runs of quests.

Go toss a coin 100 times. By your definition of "random" it should alternate heads and tails. But it won't. There will be runs of heads, runs of tails and runs of alternating. The more times you do it, the more it will tend to average out to 50:50. This is basic stuff. I learned it in primary school.

Zitat von Shadowmikeuk

It's on the live servers - I think it's given to people who pre-ordered the expansion but not sure if it's for all the pre-release versions.

Pre-ordered the legendary expansion pack, to be precise.