Thread: Why no retroactive commendations on Maps and Deeds??

This may have already been posted in another spot. I apologize if I missed it.

Why no retroactive commendations on Maps and Deeds? As high as commendation costs are this would be more than fair for veteran monster players (I'm a 5 year vet). From what I understand each map is worth ~500 commendations which is ~8k commendations total...just enough to buy ONE new cosmetic appearance when we finally rank up. Add in extras for deeds (which take a long time to get in MP) and you actually have a few extra points to barter with. I understand the new system and I don't hate it. It is a crazy thing to log off one day with 200K+ destiny points and log back on and have 750 commendations when you're only 10k from hitting the next rank. Now I'm spending more time doing pve instead of pvmp just so I can afford my basic skills/passives. Not to mention, I won't even be able to afford my awesome new skin until much later unless I help defray the costs by using the lotro store...but that's another story.

Turbine, please consider this in Monster Play. When all is said and done it ends up being the cost of a cosmetic appearance, but isn't that one of the best things a monster player can strive for?

Sincerely and Respectfully,

Originally Posted by OVERLORD

This may have already been posted in another spot. I apologize if I missed it.

Why no retroactive commendations on Maps and Deeds? As high as commendation costs are this would be more than fair for veteran monster players (I'm a 5 year vet). From what I understand each map is worth ~500 commendations which is ~8k commendations total...just enough to buy ONE new cosmetic appearance when we finally rank up. Add in extras for deeds (which take a long time to get in MP) and you actually have a few extra points to barter with. I understand the new system and I don't hate it. It is a crazy thing to log off one day with 200K+ destiny points and log back on and have 750 commendations when you're only 10k from hitting the next rank. Now I'm spending more time doing pve instead of pvmp just so I can afford my basic skills/passives. Not to mention, I won't even be able to afford my awesome new skin until much later unless I help defray the costs by using the lotro store...but that's another story.

Turbine, please consider this in Monster Play. When all is said and done it ends up being the cost of a cosmetic appearance, but isn't that one of the best things a monster player can strive for?

Sincerely and Respectfully,

Well said.

I doubt it will happen, but well said.

Not sure what you mean by retroactive commendations?

He may be no linguist, but he means that no retrospective award was given for deeds already completed. If you had completed all those maps on multiple toons you got squat, which despite doing many things that have puzzled and annoyed me was one of the things that ticked me off the most.

Given I had completed the map deeds on 3 of my 6 creeps, I lost out on 10k commodations free (given the cap).

Not to mention the other deeds. In fact to be fair for the vets, the cap should have been set aside for the initial award and the what 15k odd comms on developed toons just awarded. Was a kick in the teeth.

6 fully mapped out creeps, yes i was a little disappointed.

The question of "why" is often answered by "how would this impact your use of the store". Alas.

Didn't the map deeds give out Destiny Points before?

Originally Posted by Frisco

Didn't the map deeds give out Destiny Points before?

pitiful amounts.

Originally Posted by Frisco

Didn't the map deeds give out Destiny Points before?

Originally Posted by Daec

pitiful amounts.

But amounts nonetheless.

I'm not saying that I agree with it, but that'd likely be Turbine's justification for not awarding retroactive commendations for map deeds, since it's basically what the justification was for not awarding retroactive TP for already completed deeds when F2P went live ("you already received experience points for those deeds, so getting TP on top of that would be rewarding you twice"). That, and the fact that they probably didn't want to have people starting with so many TP that they'd never have to buy any - but that happened anyway.

Also, there's the other side of it (that Turbine probably never even considered): with a 10k commendations cap, some people might've actually had some commendations go to waste if retroactive commendations were given for map, slayer, and other Ettenmoors deeds. Of course, given the choice, I'd rather get 10k and have 5k go to waste than get nothing and have 15k go to waste.

I'm sure they didn't do it over concern for lost points as u say, we lost em anyway.

As for rewarding us twice >.< mhuh destiny points that u can't spend on audacity... if destiny could be spent on audacity it would be reasonable to say you had been rewarded twice

Yeah, it actually got me really miffed, but its spilt milk and they certainly won't do anything about it now.

Coming soon to the LOTRO Store: Commendations!

That's right, for just 495TP you can now purchase 1000 commendations.

For just 995TP you can purchase 2500 commendations.

For one low price of 2445TP you can purchase 10000 commendations!

Expect this as a remedy to the solution.

I've just returned to MP and commendations have been implemented since I last played. I was disappointed to find zero compensation for my creep alts that have completed map deeds and or ranked to blue dots. Would liked to have seen some commendation quantity banked or 1 or 2 audacity ranks thrown in for free.

The good think about commendations is it encourages freeps / creeps to disperse across the map so there pretty good opportunity for 1vs1 pvp. Bad thing is way to much pve is taking place right now detracting from pure pvp.

Its more than 8k comms to get all your maps, 500 for crude, 1000 for poor, 1500 for good maps so 3000 comms per completed set. Lugz, TA, TR, LC, Isen sets so 3000x5= 15,000 commendations for all the map deeds. Though even if retroactively applied you would still lose 5k of that since the cap on commendations is 10,000.

Originally Posted by Secundus_Tiberius

Its more than 8k comms to get all your maps, 500 for crude, 1000 for poor, 1500 for good maps so 3000 comms per completed set. Lugz, TA, TR, LC, Isen sets so 3000x5= 15,000 commendations for all the map deeds. Though even if retroactively applied you would still lose 5k of that since the cap on commendations is 10,000.

Good point. I didn't even think about the cap but if they have bag overflow in certain situations then surely they could have a one time commendation overflow. Once you spend down below the 10K mark you just can't go back over it... Again, I don't hate the system. I just REALLY wanted compensation so I could have a little more audacity at a higher rank.

Originally Posted by OVERLORD

Good point. I didn't even think about the cap but if they have bag overflow in certain situations then surely they could have a one time commendation overflow. Once you spend down below the 10K mark you just can't go back over it... Again, I don't hate the system. I just REALLY wanted compensation so I could have a little more audacity at a higher rank.

Interesting idea for commendation overflow, but easily exploitable - just never go below 10k commendations and you effectively avoid the cap forever.

As a completionist, I've had the same question for all deeds as it concerns Turbine Points.



They don't like veterans.

Originally Posted by Lestache

Interesting idea for commendation overflow, but easily exploitable - just never go below 10k commendations and you effectively avoid the cap forever.

Nope twas easy, you get all the comms you had earnt, you can't earn anymore until you drop under the cap. Simple. Reality is: -

Originally Posted by soccercake7

They don't like veterans.