Thread: bring back the creep/freep cd time

Come on turbine,its high time the cd for flippin sides is brought back,its ruining the ettens,players who flip sides just to get on the winning side is lame...infact make the cd more than 1hr

1 hour is enough.

I'd be happy with that.

Don't push for more....

I was thinking more half an hour. And please make it only for characters near the cap. If creeps are getting zerged at one rez or another, if I wanna get on my noobie champ or LM and level them, shouldn't I be able to? Although that wouldn't work because of spies... Hmmmmm... You should be able to report spies and they'll be banned from the game for 5 days. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Originally Posted by Drakojan

if I wanna get on my noobie champ or LM and level them, shouldn't I be able to?

No.

/123456

Originally Posted by Drakojan

I was thinking more half an hour. And please make it only for characters near the cap. If creeps are getting zerged at one rez or another, if I wanna get on my noobie champ or LM and level them, shouldn't I be able to? Although that wouldn't work because of spies... Hmmmmm... You should be able to report spies and they'll be banned from the game for 5 days. PROBLEM SOLVED.

I may be wrong but when there was a cd for flipping sides you couldnt go from freep to creep only if you entered the moors and you could go creep to freep and not enter the moors, it was a nice idea that does need to come back

Agreed, it was stupid to remove the lock out, bring it back.

I disagree, i like to freep but when i get bored of freeping or if i think the fight is one sided id like to switch, i have not noticed this switching happening where peeps are moving onto the winning side. The freedom of choice is a given for instance last night im on my freep then i get a call from a friend playing creep so i switched to creep if you had your way i would have to wait an hour or more just to join my friends. The cooldown was only for creeping which i think gave creeps much more of a hard time as you could switch from creep to freep but not freep to creep. If you are a creep player then i dont understand your moaning as if anything having no cooldown opens up the option for more players to join you from the freep side, yes the cooldown might deter one or two or possibly 3 players from switching to freep but what the cooldown takes away is freedom and im all for freedom.

The more i have the ON buff, the more points i make.

But honestly i don't care either way.

Originally Posted by Renur

I disagree, i like to freep but when i get bored of freeping or if i think the fight is one sided id like to switch, i have not noticed this switching happening where peeps are moving onto the winning side. The freedom of choice is a given for instance last night im on my freep then i get a call from a friend playing creep so i switched to creep if you had your way i would have to wait an hour or more just to join my friends. The cooldown was only for creeping which i think gave creeps much more of a hard time as you could switch from creep to freep but not freep to creep. If you are a creep player then i dont understand your moaning as if anything having no cooldown opens up the option for more players to join you from the freep side, yes the cooldown might deter one or two or possibly 3 players from switching to freep but what the cooldown takes away is freedom and im all for freedom.

m8 i wasnt moaning,i posted this thread after quite a few players agreed with what i said about the side flipping.we're both on gilrain m8 and if you were in the moors last night on freep im sure you would agree with the suggestion, i.e it was more or less equal numbers at 1 point then all of a sudden we lost half the freeps and the creeps doubled in numbers,hence the ON buff.

Dunno if someone suggested it but

Why dont they make the retake to get cd 1 day per account??i mean if you get tol with creep then YOU CANT get the quest if you log with freep to retake

Been saying this since they removed the lockout. Terrible decision.

I flip to help the outnumbered side and on Silverlode I see a lot more of this than vice versa. Or, if one side is massively outnumbered, I want to get on my warg to work on maps. If there's a CD and I log on my champ and freeps have the #s I got nothing to do (since I won't zerg and I have no interest in PvE on him). So no I don't support a CD.

The CD never should have been taken away. They need to add a 1 hour timer going both ways. They already had the mechanic that took f2p freeps who logged out in the moors out of the zone so they should be able to apply something to this as well. That way if you log your freep out in the moors they just get ported out and locked out till the timer expires. That way it doesn't prevent anyone from PvE.

If they can't apply the mechanic going creep to freep shouldn't have a timer. No way they will/should prevent someone from playing their main characters (considering 90% of the time I'm sure they are getting off their creep to PvE).

The cooldown should be reinstated. This choice by turbine is merely for $$. Not for the good of the game.

More time in the moors=more money spent on p2w pots. The cooldown is never coming back-along with the integrity of the game. (You think Tolkein would support comm flippers?)

Though I would prefer to have the sideswitchers publicly flayed and hanged.... I suppose we can compromise on a reintroduction of the timer.

Please do. I don't know how many times I see one side start overwhelming the other, then suddenly we have a whole raid of flippers riding the coat tails of the dominating side.

Introducing commendations just made it worse too.

Originally Posted by avengingbananaslug

I flip to help the outnumbered side and on Silverlode I see a lot more of this than vice versa.

This tends to be the case on Gladden too. If one side is massively outnumbering the other, there are a bunch of people who will switch to the outnumbered side to defend. I don't like fighting when the other side has the ON buff, but I don't necessarily want to leave the moors altogether. I also like to be able to switch over after a good fight to say hi and thanks for the fun.

It doesn't actually matter to me in practice, since my main freep and my main creep are on different accounts, but not signed from me.

I don't flip that often, but I don't support the Flipping aspect. They should put back the 1 hour CD on it or make it 1 day per Flip.

I only flip to the Freepside, to talk to my kinmates.

Maybe they could make the timer 30 minutes, 1 hour was a lilttle too long for my taste. If im freeping and it's completely dead, then i'll do the OR dailies, then flip and do the DG dailies, then do the rest of the quests until action picks up, then go back to freepside.

If they do implement a timer again, it should go with both sides. If a freep logs out inside the moors, and is currently on the flip timer, he/she will automatically be sent to gv. The little barrier at the exit to gv could be used with the timer, and they could make a ./flip time remaining, similar to the ./played command.

30 minutes is probably a long enough cooldown because if one side is zerging the other side into oblivion, then the other side probably won't stick around for longer than 30 minutes. Also, making it a day long cd would be pretty ridiiculous, because many people play both sides.

/not signed ever.

Obviously not going to happen, as it would solve more problems than it would create. Can't make money off of balance can you?

/signed for ever.

Did they say why it was removed? Additionally, I wouldn't have anything against if they also did it so that you couldn't play creeps at all on a server one already has freeps on. That would not totally prevent the 'I'm not attacking my kin mate / PvE-friend' -mentality but at least it would be an extra nuisance to those peeps.

EDIT: And that was not a suggestion. Just wanted to say that I wouldn't argue against that kind of a change either.

They removed the lockout because I made a post in the suggestion forums slightly over a year ago. [got purged]
The lockout timer makes no difference at all. If people want to easymode they will log out and wait for an hour.
Do you really think someone will say "Hey I dont feel like losing right now....but I dont want to wait an hour to be on the winning side.....oh well let me stay on this side and hope for the best."
NO; they will log off their freep/creep and go derp around for an hour and then come back on the opposite side to easymode with the best of them.

There are still people left that don't enjoy ezmode raiding to zerg solos that play both sides because they have fun playing with or against their people and solo while doing it. [You are looking at one of them(Zerg food)]

If you really don't want people to flip; you should lead raids better than the creep/freep raid leader.
If you can't for whatever reason; leave it at that and don't give anyone else another reason to leave the moors/game.

Originally Posted by Drakojan

I was thinking more half an hour. And please make it only for characters near the cap. If creeps are getting zerged at one rez or another, if I wanna get on my noobie champ or LM and level them, shouldn't I be able to? Although that wouldn't work because of spies... Hmmmmm... You should be able to report spies and they'll be banned from the game for 5 days. PROBLEM SOLVED.

If you want to level your noobie up, nothing is stopping from doing so in a level appropriate PvE zone. If you want to rank them up, then no.

Sadly, there's no way to prove spies, so it will never happen.

And I think it should be 1 hour, both ways.

Eh the 2 hour thing was a pain. It was 2 hours before, right? Been so long lol. I think 30 minutes both ways (rank 4 gv map is 30 minute cd, so makes sense)would be a good enough cd timer; long enough to not be a flip flopper and make a fight even more unbalanced, but short enough so you don't miss out on any good action. For the freep side one, they could put a cd timer on the horses to the moors as well so people can't travel there till the time allotted expires.

To be honest I think a 15min cooldown is all we need. That's probably enough for many players to reconsider logging to the other side.

I for one like to play against kinnies, and am most willing to log my creep once a kingroup joins the freeps. No matter who's winning or losing. I'm quite sure i'm not alone in this matter.

Not something I would ever want. If the map is red more than half red I log in freep. If the map is more than half blue I log in creep. Used to be easier to find people away from the zerg this way but that seems to be changing rapidly on Elendilmir.

Originally Posted by colhelm

Come on turbine,its high time the cd for flippin sides is brought back,its ruining the ettens,players who flip sides just to get on the winning side is lame...infact make the cd more than 1hr

I agree with that.

/signed

Was it ever explained why the lockout was removed?

I support bringing back the lock, or even letting players buy it off for 75 TP. It's rediculous that players bounce back and forth to take a keep and then take it back. Comms should be shared across servers, not sides.

Originally Posted by eskla

I support bringing back the lock, or even letting players buy it off for 795 TP. It's rediculous that players bounce back and forth to take a keep and then take it back. Comms should be shared across servers, not sides.

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dont remove this!! Fo real it helps me QQ at creeps ganking
CURRENT EVENT i get killed 5 times in a row then go creepside... QQQQQQ.....
1 HOUR FLIP i get killed five times in a row then go creepside an hour later.....me"QQQQQ".... Creeps"What are you talking about? Oh ya that an hour ago... drop it dude that was long ago."

Originally Posted by Ozthorn

If you want to level your noobie up, nothing is stopping from doing so in a level appropriate PvE zone. If you want to rank them up, then no.

Sadly, there's no way to prove spies, so it will never happen.

And I think it should be 1 hour, both ways.

one hour both ways is dumb.... i dont want to be locked out of my freep for an hour....