Thread: Petition: Remove Fellow-Wide Desperate Flight

Hey everyone,

I don't normally support petitions, nor would I ever think of posting one. However, in my final hour, this is my last bit of support that I can offer our hunter community. I've not always been some grouch on these boards. I did try to offer suggestions, if you check my post history. However, as time grew on, I've held less and less hope for any sort of response from the developers. Its lead me to have more and more pent up frustrations. I'm not apologizing for 'trolling'.

Instead of a well thought idea, we're being given one of the first replies to the 'Official Class Update and Feedback' thread. The developers, without a doubt, didn't even care about looking further than that first page.

This change is going to be implemented with Riders of Rohan.
Source: - "improving Hunter’s Desperate Flight to include your entire Fellowship."

We, as a community, must unanimously rebuttal this 'change'/'fix'/'improvement', for the following reasons:

-Easy to abuse. (intentionally or unintentionally) - Predicted comments: 'Oh we don't want a hunter that is going to mistakenly hit a skill in our instance/raid.'
-Serves no purpose other than to chicken-wuss out on a fight. You save some repair costs, and it costs you traveling rations instead. Go you.
-Not a valuable 'survival' skill, in PvE or PvMP. In PvMP it is disallowed, as is. It is an escape skill that is used to reset aggro currently, nothing more, nothing less. If we are to have a survival skill, it should improve our chances of living - not running away. We are hunters, we are not prey.
-Hunters will (intentionally or unintentionally) use this skill, making people playing our class look more idiotic to the rest of the LOTRO community.

If we are to stand together on any particular issue, let it be this one. We must do this early to change their mind.

Please /signed, /support, or however you wish to respond below, by adding a reply. If there is a reason I've forgotten to include please inform me.

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Petition Supporters:

deaddove (Jessiriel, 75, Riddermark, 6/14/12)
Kylani (6/14/12)
Lendas (6/14/12)
Zioloth (Belgran, 75, Dwarrowdelf, 6/15/12)
rocksteadie (Rhiannan, 75, Gilrain, 6/15/12)
Tinluen (Tydalmir, 75, Elendilmir, 6/15/12)
Daragh (6/15/12)
Noridan (Braydan, 75, Crickhollow, 6/15/12)
zalladi (Zalladi, 75, Firefoot, 6/15/12)
Bond007 (Swifteagle, 75, Gladden, 6/15/12)
Ferthcott (6/15/12)
Grhysli (Axiss, 75, Brandywine, 6/15/12)
tongra (Argnot, 75, Vilya, 6/15/12)
Luinomiel (Angathriel, 75, Landroval, 6/15/12)
Whart (Tuiliel, 75, Nimrodel, 6/15/12)
jchudz (6/15/12)
Ravyrn (Viceras, 75, Gladden, 6/15/12)
Nibenwen (Nibenwen, 75, Imlardis, 6/15/12)
Haeborwen (Haeborwen, 75, Imlardis, 6/16/12)
Vindrayeth (Vindrayeth, 75, Snowbourn[?], 6/16/12)
Dawnsinger (Gwairin, 65, Evernight, 6/16/12)
medwulf (Durrga, 65, Landroval, 6/16/12)
Light12 (6/16/12)
Oldin (6/17/12)
Lowry-LRM (6/17/12)
D3-Rook (6/17/12)
Zombielord (6/17/12)

I'm really hoping they were just joking about group DF. I thought perhaps it was tongue in cheek.

I can't imagine that being our new skill.

Originally Posted by deaddove

The developers, without a doubt, didn't even care about looking further than that first page.

How can you possibly believe or say that, nevermind know that?

Originally Posted by deaddove

This change is going to be implemented with Riders of Rohan.
Source: - "improving Hunter’s Desperate Flight to include your entire Fellowship."

Your definition of "experimenting" is quite different from mine, and, quite frankly, is wrong.



All you people panicking over this and spewing vitriol at the developers for it are not just jumping, but taking a rocket-powered headlong supersonic flight to conclusion land.

Giving feedback that this is a bad idea is a good thing. Acting like it's set in diamond and saying that the developers are incompetent is not.

Originally Posted by Nakiami

How can you possibly believe or say that, nevermind know that?
Your definition of "experimenting" is quite different from mine, and, quite frankly, is wrong.

All you people panicking over this and spewing vitriol at the developers for it are not just jumping, but taking a rocket-powered headlong supersonic flight to conclusion land.

Giving feedback that this is a bad idea is a good thing. Acting like it's set in diamond and saying that the developers are incompetent is not.

Experiment with or not, this..

Simply. Is. A. Bad. Idea.

Until they say, 'NO, we're not implementing this.' I'm going to hold them by what they've already said, and not assume otherwise. I can't honestly recall of a hunter that's had a positive thought on this.

WHOA WHOA WHOA
HOLD THE PRESSES!

im sure the devs would not be that idiotic to actually implement this now would they? is it concivable for a human being to be that stupid? naaaaahhhhhhh...

3 months later

Originally Posted by Lendas

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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for hunters!
Experimenting.......sounds somehow very familiar.

In fact, what are the second and third suggestions in the said class thread, just to prepare for the other "experiments"...

Hey - what did you expect them to do? Read all the threads, count suggestions and sort them into general categories for consideration? Don't you have any idea how many suggestions there were?

Lot's - that's what.

God - I hope the first Minstrel reply isn't asking for more dps and a pet helicopter or something.

Put me down as a Hunter who thinks it is a good idea... overdue in fact. Why should hunters escape; leaving the rest of the party to die. If the situation has deteriorated enough for the Hunter to bolt; it is bad enough for everyone else to bail as well. No party wipe is good.

Originally Posted by Cavedweller

Put me down as a Hunter who thinks it is a good idea... overdue in fact. Why should hunters escape; leaving the rest of the party to die. If the situation has deteriorated enough for the Hunter to bolt; it is bad enough for everyone else to bail as well. No party wipe is good.

its never that simple... ever.

when you DF in an instance it breaks it, requiring a re-set of the entire instance.

if you need to DF your entire fellow in landscape you'r doing something wrong.

wont work in moors.

so its uselss and can lead to slip-ups that result in worse things than now.

Yep - that's what I need to start playing my hunter again - fellowship DF. I'll log on now.

Originally Posted by stu111

Yep - that's what I need to start playing my hunter again - fellowship DF. I'll log on now.

yep +1


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You can sign me up. Not because I agree with all of your arguments, only that I do not see a good use for this skill. I just don't see a circumstance under which it would be particularly useful.

I'm also going to start a petition on the Woodworker Tradeskill thread begging for an upgraded Fishing Rod recipe! Seriously, we haven't figured out to make a rod out of something better than Lebethron???

Originally Posted by Bradagast

I'm also going to start a petition on the Woodworker Tradeskill thread begging for an upgraded Fishing Rod recipe! Seriously, we haven't figured out to make a rod out of something better than Lebethron???

Now THAT'S a petition I can get behind! /signed

Originally Posted by Bradagast

I'm also going to start a petition on the Woodworker Tradeskill thread begging for an upgraded Fishing Rod recipe! Seriously, we haven't figured out to make a rod out of something better than Lebethron???

Legendary fishing rods! That's what we need

Under what circumstances could that possibly be useful? I have never heard of a more useless skill. Is PvE going to be so brutal that suddenly a whole fellow might wipe? If a hunter used that in an instance his party would boot him.

Since it is so ridiculous I am going to assume they meant it as a joke and and we are going to be pleasantly surprised when DF is replaced with something not lame.

I started this game with a hunter and I only really use the skill for traveling back to the rez circle.

/Signed but only for it to change to a survival. OR my thought to remedy it being group-wide, add a notification box which asks each party-member if they want to use the DF transport. Why not have it be that for everyone including the hunter that pressed it? And then make it so the ones that want to go out can, while the others can stay if they want.

Originally Posted by therogue

/Signed but only for it to change to a survival. OR my thought to remedy it being group-wide, add a notification box which asks each party-member if they want to use the DF transport. Why not have it be that for everyone including the hunter that pressed it? And then make it so the ones that want to go out can, while the others can stay if they want.

If the situation is bad enough for a hunter to use the skill, it's pretty likely everyone will already be dead by the time they click "confirm". I only use DF myself when everything's gone to heck and there's only a handful of people left alive.