Thread: "fellowship DF idea" source found.

not trolling here but... found this on first page of class feedback thread... for some reason i cant quote it. but here it is.

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...e-and-Feedback

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Join Date: Oct 2010Posts: 8


Re: Official Class Update and Feedback



Hunter - travel skills sooner - MORE travel locations - Desperate Flight should take the entire fellowship.

Since I did not give nine suggestions, of the three I gave, the one I'd most love to see implemented is Desperate Flight including the entire fellowship. Let me bring all my friends to safety!


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yerp.... the devs just look at the first post by hunter and decide its a good idea... nice in-depth serching on your feedback page turblind!

they took it from the first post without looking at anything else. i wonder if they even read any of the other hunter suggestions?
they took it from a person with 8 posts.....
they took something without even deciding if the rest of the hunter community agree'd with it...

GIVE EM A BIG ROUND OF APPLUSE!


sorry eoburn just had to use it.. worked too well heh





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all faith in devs has been lost.

.....I will be quietly whimpering and sobbing in the corner.

All I can say is...LOL. Thanks for the link, I forgot to check back there if the desperate flight suggestions was ever suggested, but to my unknowing surprise, Turbine only had a look at the first post. I remember I wrote a fairly detailed post asking for more relative improvments, not once did I ask for additions to porting or desperate flight...the horror.

Guild Wars 2 looks fun.

Feel free to use any GIFs I post here, as they are not a licensed nor trademarked product of Eoburn Inc. Ltd.

That being said...

A standing ovation for the devs, their eternal blind-eye to Hunter problems, and the fact that they ACTUALLY MADE DF FELLOWSHIP WIDE INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON SOMETHING ELSE.

Come on, lets keep the applause going!

The devs of this fine, great company cannot be thanked enough for their benevolence or wisdom!

I dont know why you guys have so much hate for the idea, its a fantastic one, the best one ive ever seen for the hunter class.

(sarcasm)

But I'd rather wait to see how it turns out, maybe hunters get a major revamp at RoR. dont exclude that.

Originally Posted by Witch0King

(sarcasm)

But I'd rather wait to see how it turns out, maybe hunters get a major revamp at RoR. dont exclude that.

like little children, some hunters belive in the Hunter dev! how cute... brings back memories of when i belived in the dev. aye but children grow up so fast...

oh wait... your a BA... (looks at skirmisher stance)

BTW KEEP UP THE CLAP!

Originally Posted by Lendas

like little children, some hunters belive in the Hunter dev! how cute... brings back memories of when i belived in the dev. aye but children grow up so fast...

what you know, maybe another dev step up if the other one doesnt want too, they claim they are powered by their fans, time to show it.

Originally Posted by Witch0King

what you know, maybe another dev step up if the other one doesnt want too, they claim they are powered by their fans, time to show it.

no really


OH BTW

plz give yer claps to the dev!

Originally Posted by Lendas

oh wait... your a BA... (looks at skirmisher stance)

what does that have to do with anything? hunters doesnt need ST, what you need is improved fleetness (however you spell it) as a passive stance when legendary is traited.

Originally Posted by Witch0King

what does that have to do with anything?

Well, we, ahem..... wer kinda asking for that stance since SoA... ahem.... but.... ya know... you got it.

and umm... about that knockdown on headshot (or revenge)... umm.... that was suggested on the hunter forums for mercy shot..... sooooooooo... yea...

Originally Posted by Witch0King

hunters doesnt need ST, what you need is improved fleetness (however you spell it) as a passive stance when legendary is traited.

your comaparing ST with f#$%^ness?

fleetness as a stance?




OK ENOUGH FLAMING. lets get back to the issue at hand. Fellow wide DF idea came from the first forum post on the class suggestions page.... thats what this thread is about DONT DERAIL

Originally Posted by Lendas

Fellow wide DF idea came from the first forum post on the class suggestions page.... thats what this thread is about DONT DERAIL

I thought it was about the clap...

Originally Posted by Lendas

they took it from the first post without looking at anything else.

Pff ... Just be grateful the first post wasn' about hunters need a pet

The colors! They burn!

I can't help but wonder...

Point Blank Shot...how far does it push back?

Originally Posted by Lendas

Well, we, ahem..... wer kinda asking for that stance since SoA... ahem.... but.... ya know... you got it.

and umm... about that knockdown on headshot (or revenge)... umm.... that was suggested on the hunter forums for mercy shot..... sooooooooo... yea...

dude, if you want to be a BA, roll one. I dont want any cd on punctured target, I want a melee daze independent of crit. I want a range skill which fears/daze. Do I get it? no, Do I whine about it? no. I dont want my hunter to be a BA as much as I dont want my BA to be a hunter. If you think a creep class got it easier you need to take off your freep goggles.

Originally Posted by CWood

I thought it was about the clap...

DEV: sorry curing the clap would be considered disease removal and that would be infringing on the LM's skill set

Back to your interesting, but classically ignored suggestions!

Tydalmir

Originally Posted by Eckenbrand

Feel free to use any GIFs I post here, as they are not a licensed nor trademarked product of Eoburn Inc. Ltd.

That being said...

A standing ovation for the devs, their eternal blind-eye to Hunter problems, and the fact that they ACTUALLY MADE DF FELLOWSHIP WIDE INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON SOMETHING ELSE.

Quickly it is catching... we need an LM in the hunter forums STAT! ^

Originally Posted by Witch0King

dude, if you want to be a BA, roll one. I dont want any cd on punctured target, I want a melee daze independent of crit. I want a range skill which fears/daze. Do I get it? no, Do I whine about it? no. I dont want my hunter to be a BA as much as I dont want my BA to be a hunter. If you think a creep class got it easier you need to take off your freep goggles.

just sayin... you got what we asked for... and needed more than you. no freep goggles here... just observations.
OK so you cant beat minis in 1v1... who can?





it seems your looking at this though your creep goggles... take them off and see:

you got a stance that you completly didnt need to be effective (and now launches BAs up there with the wargs in power scale) that was suggested on the hunter forums

you got 40% slow triple snare usable on the move, again something the hunters asked for...

you got knock down on your headshot... again something hunters asked for...

you got a solid insta heal (derived from the old uruk heal)... again... something hunters ask for ans still ask for.

its obvious you dont want hunter to be BA... because you dont have one. you just eat hunters for the commns and burp...




play a hunter to 75, try to get good gear, and have your dreams for mild effectivness in PVP over 5 years crushed when your creep equivlent gets it even when they didnt need it...

take off your creep goggles, this be the hunter forums.

for trollin, there be the creep forums.

Makes me wonder how long it will take before the hunter who suggested DF as groupskill gets chased down by an angry mob of fellow hunters.

I guess the next suggestion should be a hound pet for hunter that does nothing other than pulling additional mobs during battle. Anybody support? (please note that this is NOT a suggestion but only a joke)

Originally Posted by Dawnsinger

I guess the next suggestion should be a hound pet for hunter that does nothing other than pulling additional mobs during battle. Anybody support? (please note that this is NOT a suggestion but only a joke)

Too late. Turbine Devs are getting started on this suggestion as we speak.

Originally Posted by Lendas

not trolling here but... found this on first page of class feedback thread... for some reason i cant quote it. but here it is.

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...e-and-Feedback

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Join Date: Oct 2010Posts: 8


Re: Official Class Update and Feedback



Hunter - travel skills sooner - MORE travel locations - Desperate Flight should take the entire fellowship.

Since I did not give nine suggestions, of the three I gave, the one I'd most love to see implemented is Desperate Flight including the entire fellowship. Let me bring all my friends to safety!


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yerp.... the devs just look at the first post by hunter and decide its a good idea... nice in-depth serching on your feedback page turblind!

they took it from the first post without looking at anything else. i wonder if they even read any of the other hunter suggestions?
they took it from a person with 8 posts.....
they took something without even deciding if the rest of the hunter community agree'd with it...

GIVE EM A BIG ROUND OF APPLUSE!


sorry eoburn just had to use it.. worked too well heh





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all faith in devs has been lost.

Are they seriously implementing this?

Originally Posted by Lendas

you got 40% slow triple snare usable on the move, again something the hunters asked for...

you got knock down on your headshot... again something hunters asked for...

you got a solid insta heal (derived from the old uruk heal)... again... something hunters ask for ans still ask for.

once again you want to be a BA, roll one if its so easy, but w/e I dont care if the hunters remain the same for the next 20 years by the way you act. enjoy no changes , bye! Enjoy this new skill of yours!

Originally Posted by Ravyrn

Are they seriously implementing this?

BTW love how your gif looks up at my quote



you better belive it!


the devs are so blind, you could burn a searchlight right in their face and they would say its kinda dark.

so i doubt any of this will be heeded, but lets party on! wooo! we will dance as the class burns!

Rock n' Roll

No one will notice.

It was said that Nero played the violin as Rome burned around him.

Originally Posted by Lendas

just sayin... you got what we asked for... and needed more than you. no freep goggles here... just observations.
OK so you cant beat minis in 1v1... who can?

it seems your looking at this though your creep goggles... take them off and see:

you got a stance that you completly didnt need to be effective (and now launches BAs up there with the wargs in power scale) that was suggested on the hunter forums

you got 40% slow triple snare usable on the move, again something the hunters asked for...

you got knock down on your headshot... again something hunters asked for...

you got a solid insta heal (derived from the old uruk heal)... again... something hunters ask for ans still ask for.

its obvious you dont want hunter to be BA... because you dont have one. you just eat hunters for the commns and burp...

play a hunter to 75, try to get good gear, and have your dreams for mild effectivness in PVP over 5 years crushed when your creep equivlent gets it even when they didnt need it...

take off your creep goggles, this be the hunter forums.

for trollin, there be the creep forums.

1. Group DF - Lame

2. Effective is a relative term. BA's were effective before when we could plant our feet and pew pew. I managed R12 with that play-style, so it wasn't unplayable just situational. Until Skirm Stance, BAs were in large amounts of trouble if ANYTHING was hitting us or a melee got into range. Ever try to induct skills in normal stance with an RK zapping you? Doesn't work well... IMO It was very much a needed change to the BA. Hunters can go blue-line and trait fleetness, granted it does not make all Hunter skills instant (just like skirm stance does not make them all instant for the BA), but at least Hunters keep do not suffer a range reduction nor a Skill damage reduction (other than the trait setup reduction).

3. BAs got the Headshot trait years ago..many years when the Rank based class traits came out. Until those traits became gated, it wasn't even close to an issue for anyone because only a few servers had BAs hitting those ranks. I honestly don't consider it over powered at all due to the crit %. Consider that BA's crit chance is not even remotely close to a hunter's, essentially they have a maybe CC skill that essentially is just used for damage and if it KDs..great. I've personally cycled through 10 head-shots with no KD...I'd take bards, RoT or distracting....or all three any day. CC is definitely not something hunters are lacking.

4. Admittedly the snare skill is pretty sweet, but for the most part we just use it as a bleed. Already have a decent snare on a fast CD, which you need to have applied for one of our skills to hit hard btw. I will say it's ultra useful on Burgs since with TnG up it's hard to land a hinder. I'd honestly rather have the variety of traps Hunters have in Combat. But trapping overall if you include firetrap, BAs have the better situation no doubt. It's really too bad the Trapper trait line is so pathetic.

5. The new Uruk heal is pretty great, although 3k is only one good pen shot and an auto attack or a swiftbow. Don't get me wrong, i'd love to have a 3k heal on a fast CD on my Hunter, but the classes are not mirrors and Hunters are just not in as bad a spot as people make out overall. Maybe a legacy to improve PO induction time? I truly hate stopping and inducting that skill in the moors...it's like putting a plate out with sandwich and a side of hunter-shaped warg treats out there. CD is now fine for the PO skill though and I can live with the Power and Moral levels...just scary to use the skill and it's tricky to use in combat unless a creep isn't fear potting.

Please keep in mind I've played both a Hunter and BA from SoA until now (I missed Moria entirely) and the Hunter is just not as useless as everyone keeps saying. I think the major issue is that the other freep classes are in such great spots, it makes the hunter look like the runt of the litter scrambling for scraps. By no means am I great hunter or even what I'd call a good Hunter. I just don't have the time put in to be there yet, but I can see even from my standpoint that it's fine for the most part.

Without a doubt there are many situations that do not benefit a hunter, but many people don't leverage the strengths of the class to be as effective as they could be. You can turn a BA into an ineffective lump of pixels if you play it wrong or throw it into the wrong situations. Just keep in mind the BA class needed some type of mobile stance or skill like Needful haste, MT was the only thing they had to prevent damage from setting back every skill except NYD. Stand somewhere on your hunter with no NH up and just try to induct SB and Barbed over and over while creeps are hitting you....doesn't work well and that's what the BA was. Tell me you stand there with a reaver hitting you and spin in circles using, quickshot, barbed and swift bow only....Now, since you're going to say you don't do that, ask yourself why not...then you'll understand BA play prior to Skirm stance and understand why they got it.

My poorly geared hunter can destroy creeps if I get a focus buff jump on them, the damage output over the first 30 seconds is insane. A hunter friend and I spent last night roaming the moors blowing creeps up. We died several times when we got outfought or overwhelmed by zergs. But we had no issues, stayed mobile, hit and run, picked our fights, etc... Without a doubt the biggest issue was the wargs (is the tracking trait broken btw? we track, [one warg on the list] then four wargs nom us two seconds later)

I'd personally like to see a Fleetness legacy to extend duration or possibly increase pip generation rate, IMO that's the only major change hunters need. That needs to be on the melee weapon btw. I'll dump a stat leg for that

Sorry Moof... I must have missed it but what is your Hunter's name?

Originally Posted by Nuth_KM

Sorry Moof... I must have missed it but what is your Hunter's name?

You didn't miss it Nuth, I didn't type it out anywhere. Most creeps on E know my hunters name, just ask in TS and someone will tell you. I have no freeps on Landy if you were thinking maybe you've seen me out there...i don't double up on the same server.

Originally Posted by Nuth_KM

Sorry Moof... I must have missed it but what is your Hunter's name?

Bleh, I just scrolled past my wall of text....I feel like Luc