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    Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    Hello everyone!

    Im having some big problems. I just bought a new computer and when i run the game on this computer it lags even on the lowest settings. This new computer i bought is 1000000000x better than my old one and the old one runs better than this. I have no idea what is going on here. My friends computer is a gaming computer and my specs are even better than his and his computer runs LOTRO better than mine.

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    Intel Core i7 @3.4GHz
    16GB DDR3 RAM
    Nvidia Geforce GT520 2GB version.

    Why is this running so slow? the specs are amazing and way better than my old computer and friends computer which ran this game better than mine. Can anyone tell me why this is? please help.

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    Is this a name-brand computer like Dell or HP? If so, such a machine arrives absolutely filled with steaming piles of useless software -- usually referred to as "bloatware". Such programs tie up system resources, clog up memory, steal clock cycles from the CPU, and continually send and receive information (including program updates) over your Internet connection.

    Remove all bloatware using Control Panel.

    I cannot give specific recommendations other than to suggest that when you first receive a shiny new machine, it is best to remove any applications that you did not specifically purchase.

    Also, it is not uncommon for a new machine to require several rounds of legitimate updates for Windows and legitimately installed applications such as malware protection, Office, Internet Explorer, Adobe products, Flash, Java, etc. It may be that your new machine is still processing such updates.

    Of course, none of this may be the cause of your problems. It is always possible that the computer has faulty system components such as memory or graphics processor or network interface. It may be worth a call to the company from which you purchased your computer.

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    in addition to the above you'll need to check that all your drivers are up to date, PC's often come with basic drivers just barely good enough to get it to run, or, if the PC sat on a shelf/in a warehouse for 8 months waiting to sell everything became out of date.

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    A GeForce GT 520 is not a terribly awesome gaming video card. A GT 560 would be mucho more awesomo. Even a GT 260 would be better.

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    most mass produced PC's will have been built months ago and will likely have drivers which are even older than that. first place id suggest starting if this is a new PC is to install the latest drivers for your hardware from the PC makers website all except for your graphics card for which you would be best using nvidias own drivers.

    check the nvidia control center for your graphcis card and makesure all graphics settings are set to application controlled. and sett any settings for antialiasing, texture filtering etc are set ingame

    yovue not specified whether this is a laptop or desktop PC, if you have a laptop then this may drastically reduce performance if the hard disk has a slow spindle speed of 5400RPM. not an awful lot you can do here but replace the hard disk for something faster, you could try using a fast USB2\3 memory stick for lotro flashboost which will improve performance

    being as youve got 16gb i would assume you have 64bit windows installed, if not you will not get the full benefit of all 16gb

    ingame > options > trouble shooting check engine speed, sometimes this is set by default to medium or high your machine should beable to cope with this at very high

    check and makesure lotro is running at the same resolution as your desktop, also makesure your resolution is not set above the recommended settings for your monitor, yes your monitor and graphics card may allow you to set this much higher however it will cause performance to drop

    check your antivirus, if its set to scan on demmand\access ie as files are accessed then this will cause slow loading speeds unless your using SSD. slow loading speeds will cause FPS dips and freezes

    you also need to check task manger > click show proccess for all users and makesure theres nothing is over using the CPU. if anything installed on your PC which you are not directly using is running your CPU at 80%+there may be something wrong with the software, usualy uninstalling and reinstalling the software and any patches or updates for the software may fix the problem..
    note: its normal for "system idle process" to consume more than 90%
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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Finglonger_UK View Post
    most mass produced PC's will have been built months ago and will likely have drivers which are even older than that. first place id suggest starting if this is a new PC is to install the latest drivers for your hardware from the PC makers website all except for your graphics card for which you would be best using nvidias own drivers.

    check the nvidia control center for your graphcis card and makesure all graphics settings are set to application controlled. and sett any settings for antialiasing, texture filtering etc are set ingame

    yovue not specified whether this is a laptop or desktop PC, if you have a laptop then this may drastically reduce performance if the hard disk has a slow spindle speed of 5400RPM. not an awful lot you can do here but replace the hard disk for something faster, you could try using a fast USB2\3 memory stick for lotro flashboost which will improve performance

    being as youve got 16gb i would assume you have 64bit windows installed, if not you will not get the full benefit of all 16gb

    ingame > options > trouble shooting check engine speed, sometimes this is set by default to medium or high your machine should beable to cope with this at very high

    check and makesure lotro is running at the same resolution as your desktop, also makesure your resolution is not set above the recommended settings for your monitor, yes your monitor and graphics card may allow you to set this much higher however it will cause performance to drop

    check your antivirus, if its set to scan on demmand\access ie as files are accessed then this will cause slow loading speeds unless your using SSD. slow loading speeds will cause FPS dips and freezes

    you also need to check task manger > click show proccess for all users and makesure theres nothing is over using the CPU. if anything installed on your PC which you are not directly using is running your CPU at 80%+there may be something wrong with the software, usualy uninstalling and reinstalling the software and any patches or updates for the software may fix the problem..
    note: its normal for "system idle process" to consume more than 90%
    my computer is a desktop. the hard drive is a 1.1 TB and runs at only a 5400 RPM. is this the cause?

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by GiggleBot View Post
    my computer is a desktop. the hard drive is a 1.1 TB and runs at only a 5400 RPM. is this the cause?
    No. A slow hard drive will impact load times -- there will be a delay when first loading the game and when transitioning between zones (regions) as new region-specific information (graphics, primarily) are retrieved from the hard drive and loaded into system memory. With sufficient memory (you have plenty), a slow hard drive is not likely the source of lag.

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    no desktops tend to come with a faster spindle speed disk drives, usualy 7200RPM. this will still cause some performance issues but it will be no where near as bad as with a slower disk drive

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Toad View Post
    No. A slow hard drive will impact load times -- there will be a delay when first loading the game and when transitioning between zones (regions) as new region-specific information (graphics, primarily) are retrieved from the hard drive and loaded into system memory. With sufficient memory (you have plenty), a slow hard drive is not likely the source of lag.
    sorry to be the barer of bad news but lotro is very disk access intensive, the disk is read from way more than this especialy if you use the very highres textures. unlike most other games with smaller areas with lotro the disk is accessed constantly as your traveling accross a zone. even if your stationary especialy in a populated area there is constant disk access as NPCs spam their spam and new players appear.
    yes this can be improved a little by using a lot of memory, especialy graphics ram but lotro is only 32bit and can not utilise more than 3.5-4gb, any excess memory will be used by other windows processes. yes lotro may go over the 4gb mark but this should eventualy be flushed
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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    I don't know, I have a 5400 RPM hard drive, and beyond general lag issues I think most everyone is having (like during a 24 v. 12 PvMP raid), I have zero issues with lag -- using Very High graphic settings as well.

    However, I would definitely go to System > Options > Troubleshooting > Check Engine Speed. Mine was originally on High, and the game seemed to stutter a lot. I switched it down to Low and now it operates beautifully.

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cataria View Post
    I don't know, I have a 5400 RPM hard drive, and beyond general lag issues I think most everyone is having (like during a 24 v. 12 PvMP raid), I have zero issues with lag -- using Very High graphic settings as well.

    However, I would definitely go to System > Options > Troubleshooting > Check Engine Speed. Mine was originally on High, and the game seemed to stutter a lot. I switched it down to Low and now it operates beautifully.
    You switched your settings to low? hmm i thought that switching engine speed to a higher setting would make the game run faster? what am i missing?

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by GiggleBot View Post
    You switched your settings to low? hmm i thought that switching engine speed to a higher setting would make the game run faster? what am i missing?
    If I understand things, you are correct…faster engine speed will make the game run faster. If your PC can’t keep up with the engine, you get hitching and page tears. You set the engine speed lower and it won’t go over a certain level. The engine won’t keep trying to get ahead of itself.
    This is my guess. Maybe someone with more knowledge on game engines can chime in.

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    Have you tried a program called Game booster that will shut down any back ground programs not needed? Make sure you have updated all drivers. De frag your hard drives and get rid of any programs that you don't need.
    Lots of options just have to give them a go and see what helps you out.

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    Re: Help with Lag! Something is Wrong! HELP!

    Harddrive defragging is always a good idea but it won´t help much with LotrO as it is constantly reloading textures from the drive.
    ANY current harddrive is too slow to be much of a help on this compared to a SSD drive.

    Which is the next MUST-BUY I recommend to the OP.
    Get a 128GB SSD drive ASAP and reinstall the system on it and put the Lotro client there too. Windows 7 will set up everything properly, it´s a bit trickier on Vista and XP. But there are enough guides to be googled.


    As a quick and dirty solution right now, I would recommend installing a ramdisk software and using LOTRO FlashBoost 2.

    The OP has 16GB of ram of which the system will maybe ever need 6(if lucky) when running Lotro. So a nice 10 GB ramdisk used with Flashboost will dramatically improve the game experience.

    Notice, these are optimization and "quality of life" tips for running LotrO.
    The OP´s problems indeed sound more like badly installed drivers or possible bloatware/virus issues, as was already noticed by above posters.
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