Thread: Question for the all mighty landroval wargs

Originally Posted by Gillianrial

...and for being awesome.

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ps - Ratdeath appears to have started playing in 2011.

yep, thanks for keeping track,

i make solo easily with toffeetoe killing almost all creeps on 1v1
but playing as warg i have some problems i just dont know how to explain, i traited like this:
- health for power 2
- health for damage 2
- damage for power 2
- damage for health 2
- boost 1 and 2

im using shadow damage and shadow instance.. and i have all skills
im on rank 6 and i tryied many times kill a freep alone but i just can kill hunters.
i never killed a mini, rk or other class alone
i see a lot of videos on youtube to catch something im doing but my best hit on them is about 300 damage and sometimes crits like 700 dmg
i just dont know what im doing wrong

Originally Posted by Kafta

i make solo easily with toffeetoe killing almost all creeps on 1v1
but playing as warg i have some problems i just dont know how to explain, i traited like this:
- health for power 2
- health for damage 2
- damage for power 2
- damage for health 2
- boost 1 and 2

im using shadow damage and shadow instance.. and i have all skills
im on rank 6 and i tryied many times kill a freep alone but i just can kill hunters.
i never killed a mini, rk or other class alone
i see a lot of videos on youtube to catch something im doing but my best hit on them is about 300 damage and sometimes crits like 700 dmg
i just dont know what im doing wrong

I'm rank 10 and have trouble soloing freeps

For your corruptions, I would suggest Health for Power 2, Damage for Power 1 & 2, and 3 x Mastery. It seems to work reasonably well for me, better than my previous build - and was suggested to me by a player of infinitely more skill than I possess

Thanks Hazzy!

I've critted freeps for 1300+ on occasion - not that it makes much difference. I'll solo anything, or at least give it a try. Keep bleeds and slow on them, use your Disappear offensively, and leave no skill untouched.

There are wargs out there who can give you much better advice than me.

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

For maximum damage, 2 tier 2 damage (for power and health) and 4 masteries. 95.5% increase in damage

I run basically what Hithy said, I might tryout what Rat is running. I do find hunters to be the most successfull 1v1's I have. I do occasionally kill burgs and captains, but most anything else, I think it depends on their cooldowns and in some cases stances (wardens and grds). Most freeps out there now are running close to full audacity, so they are allot tougher to kill solo now. So, yep, we're gimped when it comes to large critical hits - but it's what we have to work with. I couldn't imagine the outrage if wargs could hit for an occasional 3-4k crit, we currently get enough hate as it is.

I have more probs killing hunters now than ever before. Minis, RK's, LM's, Captains I all find nearly impossible to bring down.

I'm actually having more luck with Guardians and Burgs now.

Moors is a strange place

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

I mostly solo because I haven't got the hardware to group efficiently. It wasn't very entertaining with a defiler. I recently started poking around the moors again freepside, and first day out I was knocked off my horse by Chillimac.. to my pleasant surprise I wasn't swarmed nor did he run when he got his tail kicked by a first rank moor-newbie. It wouldn't be unexpected or offend me a bit to find myself in a less viable scenario the next time we meet. It speaks to me as more of a balancing issue than a playstyle choice. I don't expect the minions of the Dark Lord to be chivalrous (so props to at least one warg for fighting with honor... I can admire that without demanding everyone "play fair" just because my video card sucks and I don't have top-end raid gear.) As long as it's not a horde of zerg I really can't complain as long as folks are having fun and sticking to the ethos of Middle Earth. I think presenting an overwhelming force is a viable tactic (it's certainly wiser than the thousand-ninja approach, especially if the PvMP system is weighted against creeps) but I joined this server to RP Lord of the Rings, not Starcraft. I see no problem with a pack of wargs. If I run out of pine cones I'll just start throwing some of these holbytlan.

Originally Posted by Kafta

i make solo easily with toffeetoe killing almost all creeps on 1v1
but playing as warg i have some problems i just dont know how to explain, i traited like this:
- health for power 2
- health for damage 2
- damage for power 2
- damage for health 2
- boost 1 and 2

im using shadow damage and shadow instance.. and i have all skills
im on rank 6 and i tryied many times kill a freep alone but i just can kill hunters.
i never killed a mini, rk or other class alone
i see a lot of videos on youtube to catch something im doing but my best hit on them is about 300 damage and sometimes crits like 700 dmg
i just dont know what im doing wrong

You 1v1 while on Toffeetoe? This is news to me. Everytime I catch you, you bail. Must be my luck though. =)

As far as your warg, You should run a third mastery instead of health for damage in my opinion. If you're running shadow, which Im sure you are, you should make sure you have Element of Surprise traited as a must. That's where you'll get your crits from when running Shadow stance. If youre getting the jump on a HNT, a good rotation is usually pounce, maul, claws, cripple, claws, swipe, eye Rake, pounce again (for the hope of another stun), repeat. Thats only for a HNT. Its not the rotation I run exactly but its a basic. I usually dont bother with debuffs on them because they burn down so quickly. If you're using Flayer, that rotation is a bit different, (for me at least).

I really don't have the opportunity to talk to as many wargs as I'd like due to my work schedule and having to log on so late (aside from Sundays), so I cant say its the best corr build, or that the rotation is the best for your repertoire of skills available to you. But maybe it'll help.

Two Freeps are out roaming the Moors, on the lookout for Creeps to report their positions to their leader.

First Freep stops suddenly, shades his eyes, then very slowly and carefully, knees down and starts removing his boots.

Second Freep see's this and asks the first - "What on Middle-Earth are you doing?!"

First Freep silences him with a finger, points to the west, and whispers "There are eighteen Wargs behind that bush!"

Second Freep laughs brazenly "You can't outrun eighteen Wargs in your bare feet!"

First Freep grins, and gets on his marks "Maybe not, but as long as I can outrun you..."

AroooOOOOOOoooooo!

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

Originally Posted by Umbrarg

Two Freeps are out roaming the Moors, on the lookout for Creeps to report their positions to their leader.

First Freep stops suddenly, shades his eyes, then very slowly and carefully, knees down and starts removing his boots.

Second Freep see's this and asks the first - "What on Middle-Earth are you doing?!"

First Freep silences him with a finger, points to the west, and whispers "There are eighteen Wargs behind that bush!"

Second Freep laughs brazenly "You can't outrun eighteen Wargs in your bare feet!"

First Freep grins, and gets on his marks "Maybe not, but as long as I can outrun you..."

AroooOOOOOOoooooo!

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

lololololololo, funny Hithy!!! I am sure I know one of them freeps and I am sure that freep must have reported me to my leader already I usually find myself in questionable places at questionable times. Sorry to be a disgrace to the tribe :P (kidding)

Originally Posted by Hatchetslave

You 1v1 while on Toffeetoe? This is news to me. Everytime I catch you, you bail. Must be my luck though. =)

Well im not good on pvp, but i do 1v1 too, almost at morning when map is all red and no one on kin is online. At morning you will probably find me alone at night im with my kinmates.

I just hit every creep i find on my way when im just following creeps quests place like sop, hh, bb, norbogs.. doesnt matter rank or class
I just dont care if i die or not and it will be a pleasure make 1v1 with anyone here i think this is the best way to learn. But, on 1v1 that i do is till death, just dont use hips and flee..
At warcamp its other story, im a opportunist like all stealth class like burg or warg... if u are at TA door and get lots of hit and try to enter i will be probably inside in stealth w8ing you to kill ^^

and thx for advices and tricks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhfxwkUjWes&feature=yo utu.be

THAT is the reason why they need to pack up.

First one is done by backpedalling and auto-attacking. Second one backpedalling and no cds. Third one is just for fun(observe the mindless running around and panicking,no skills used whatsoever by my target). Tried the same thing against Maniia and Dushur and of course it didn't work. Love you all

In all honesty Tree - do you really think I care?

I do this for fun. I don't use plugins, I don't have bubbles, I don't use buffs, and I vary rarely use vendor pots.

It's a way to spend some time. And I play this game in a way that I think is most enjoyable for me. Not you - me.

I don't take enjoyment out of putting people down, boasting of accomplishments in a video game, sneering at others for a percieved lack of "skill", or indeed putting videos up on youtube without even having the common courtesy to tell peeps about it.

Lotro has it's own terms and conditions. I have my own terms and conditions. Hithdraug (C)(TM)(R) is a copyrighted character owned by the Drunken Scotsman Company - and I am prosecuting you for copyright infringement in courts both in the USA and the UK.

You will be hearing from my solicitors - Pounce, Howlem and Choo. Expect to be served papers in the immediate future.

Good Day Sir.

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

Originally Posted by Umbrarg

In all honesty Tree - do you really think I care?

I do this for fun. I don't use plugins, I don't have bubbles, I don't use buffs, and I vary rarely use vendor pots.

It's a way to spend some time. And I play this game in a way that I think is most enjoyable for me. Not you - me.

I don't take enjoyment out of putting people down, boasting of accomplishments in a video game, sneering at others for a percieved lack of "skill", or indeed putting videos up on youtube without even having the common courtesy to tell peeps about it.

Lotro has it's own terms and conditions. I have my own terms and conditions. Hithdraug (C)(TM)(R) is a copyrighted character owned by the Drunken Scotsman Company - and I am prosecuting you for copyright infringement in courts both in the USA and the UK.

You will be hearing from my solicitors - Pounce, Howlem and Choo. Expect to be served papers in the immediate future.

Good Day Sir.

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

OMG Hithy, you should like totally use my firm, Dowey, Pouncem and Howl. The work for spicy toad biscuits, and got me what I had coming to me. (Still not sure if that was a good thing.)

Got to admit Tree - not many comments on your video. The ones that do exist speak very highly of you.

In a certain way.

I am not at all involved in any of this.

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

LMAO random deleted creep - because I can!

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...jg8vo1_500.gif

Originally Posted by Treelios

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhfxwkUjWes&feature=yo utu.be

THAT is the reason why they need to pack up.

First one is done by backpedalling and auto-attacking. Second one backpedalling and no cds. Third one is just for fun(observe the mindless running around and panicking,no skills used whatsoever by my target). Tried the same thing against Maniia and Dushur and of course it didn't work. Love you all

You know what I realized from this video? You can essentially spam remorseless. Hysterical.

Originally Posted by Umbrarg

LMAO random deleted creep - because I can!

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

You deleted Hithy?!

Originally Posted by Gell

You deleted Hithy?!

No Meat - some creep logged on to QQ and moan at me - then immediately deleted itself.

Sad.

Peeps take this whole thing far too seriously. Just have a beer and a laugh and play for fun. Thats what I do.

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

Also peep - the bits in that video where I run in circles - from my perspective I was getting behind him - at his current location on MY system.

Obviously he has a different viewpoint from me.

Just an observation.

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

Originally Posted by Umbrarg

Also peep - the bits in that video where I run in circles - from my perspective I was getting behind him - at his current location on MY system.

Obviously he has a different viewpoint from me.

Just an observation.

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

Now Hithy, how can you get behind someone that has a face on each side?

I saw cappy buffs as well.

As for the auto delete creep, I take it that you had just beaten up a freep and he felt the need to rant? That is a ploy seen far too often recently. When children play and lose, they all too often must through a tantrum.

Originally Posted by Umbrarg

I do this for fun. I don't use plugins, I don't have bubbles, I don't use buffs, and I vary rarely use vendor pots.

It's a way to spend some time. And I play this game in a way that I think is most enjoyable for me. Not you - me.

I don't take enjoyment out of putting people down, boasting of accomplishments in a video game, sneering at others for a percieved lack of "skill"

Love & Hugs

Fluffy Hithy

+rep to you my good warg.... I feel the same way

Good thread this.....just saying

The First Rule of Warg Packs is that we do not talk about Warg Packs

Originally Posted by tykoshi

The First Rule of Warg Packs is that we do not talk about Warg Packs

Originally Posted by Nuth_KM

Lolol -Haz

What's sad is when known players whine-flip. They really should know better.