Thread: What i think of todays PVP

Originally Posted by angrolas

But the thing I don't understand is, why the freeps run back to EC when they die? (Im assuming creeps have both TR and Lugz)
It just doesnt make sense to me, running there even though you know you will die over and over again. If I were leading a group, I would the freeps across TA water (Eastern side) and ambush the creeps from behind.
But for some reason, both creeps and freeps don't like to shake things up a bit.

Naw we had Tr but a few freeps went to EC for some dumb reason even with the pop buff , with the group they had the freeps out there would have gotten wiped flank or not.

I think its something that sparkles in EC that draws them

Originally Posted by Lioncourt86

Why on earth wouldn't I run?!? Do you know how many people run and still die? Most everyone! I don't die because RK self-heals are OP!

And Elmo's pretty spot on. There were about 4, maybe 6 including any stealth of us at EC XR and Skull's group/out of group followers counted to 11. They wouldn't push us.

I understand your frustration and will respond with a story. I appologize if it ends up taking a while:

Once upon a time, there was a tribe. The tribe was feared by any and every freep, whether they admitted it or not. The young freeps hated them, but the veterens for the most part respected them. They were Dark Impulse.

Not to be confused with the Dark Impulse of today, a former shade of itself, the Golden days of DI occured about a year and a half ago. It consisted of Mata, Leodush, Ukrush, Gothnon, Adieu, Arrowndface, Daflash (my hunk of a reaver), Illgnawyourbones, and some other recruits that were deemed to show potential.

They all knew their individual classes to a tee, and were considered the best of their time by many. And when such a group of skilled individuals united into one force they were terrifying.

But just how did they instill fear, rather than laughter you ask?

Their tactic was simple; they grouped up, roamed about for a bit until they knew where the main fight was happening. Then they simply flanked from a side or behind.

Now you might ask, can't anyone do that? What's so special about that?

What set them apart is their ability to conquer greater numbers, when generally consisting of 6 at most, most of the time. They were experienced to the point where they didn't have to call out what was happening, they could just react; and their reactions were deadly.

But the thing that set them apart was their playstyle. They always stayed until the very last death.

Be it in twice or three times their numbers, enemy npcs or open field, they chose a target charged and all hell broke loose. They killed many, until the valient warriors themselves were brought down. They didn't care; each individual felt no remorse for death. Ukrush even boasted at times of having the most deaths on the server, if not in the game.

Their opponents wouldn't leave the keep the entire night? It mattered not. They were unrelenting, and even when getting killed more than killing, they still killed. Nowhere was ever safe, and the free peoples knew it. But they also knew that when they came, they'd either get kills or be killed. And that expectation was always prefered over standoffs.

When they died they simply reformed, moved, and flanked again. No matter how many, no matter the situation. In it for the kills, in it for the chaos, in it for the challenge, in it for the friends and laughs, and in it to the death.

The End.

I wasn't going to reply anymore to this thread, yet I couldn't leave this alone...my last response period, probably to any of these forum threads, the drama in the Moors is enough, this is a game, it's supposed to be fun, but creeps and freeps alike are making it hard work, forget the fun.

I was just messin' with you about the running...we all do it when we see a zerg coming at us. Although I know for a fact we killed ya 4 times after you stated you were "unkillable"...Suma said the same and died too. Brag all you want about how hard it is to kill an RK in heal mode...the healing is OP, but it's not you that's OP, it's the class...to taunt with rocks that say "Unforgiven's raid can't kill me"...you ask for us to chase you and kill you lol...really?

As for your "story", you do realize you just explained the exact same things we do in Unforgiven, yet we are frowned upon. Skully constantly brags about his deaths, which if I'm not mistaken are in the top 5 on the server if not the top. I could care less if I die in the Moors, it's literally a war zone. Simply put, we have wiped groups twice our size because they stand there and stare at OC/WB/Rez...we pick a target, kill it, call out the next, kill it, until either they or us are dead...so, why is it ok if DI did it and they were so great...but we make it happen...and people call Skully a bad leader and are telling him to leave the server? I'll tell you why, the freeps got used to not having to fight to get renown, it was common place to come to the moors, wipe the creeps time and again and by the time you logged you may have died (as a freep) a couple of times...yeah, I was there, I have two r7 freeps. As well, again, why blame us for ppl following us? They know we're out to find freeps and fight, they want to be a part of it but won't join us, not our fault.

See you all out there, watch for roaming creeps, they just might "zerg" you.

Bottom line: Anything a side does the other side does as well, the classes are different but people are the same.
We should all stop QQing and just be friends.

Picnic at GTA. Now.

I've been in Unforgiven's Raid on Lugezer (since only creep i have in there), and i enjoy it because of the PEOPLE in it....as in i dont join for getting tons of inf, i might be able to get more solo, but nowhere near as fun. I dont join it to zerg or gank, and i dont think it does. Im not going agaisnt anyone like dirtymike, but im just stating my opinion.


Also, im prettier than you Elmo, i have fluffy tail so....WIN

Last night (for the first time) I ran with Skully's raid. Admittedly, I'm a solo-er, so I don't have tons of experience with raids.

Since I have seen "Skully complaints" from freeps (on their creeps) in OOC relentlessly this week, I paid attention - and honestly could not figure out what we were doing that would be considered "out of order." We were all over the map, tried to set up flanks, defended keeps. etc.

I'm just not clear on what the actual complaint is.

Originally Posted by summerf

Last night (for the first time) I ran with Skully's raid. Admittedly, I'm a solo-er, so I don't have tons of experience with raids.

Since I have seen "Skully complaints" from freeps (on their creeps) in OOC relentlessly this week, I paid attention - and honestly could not figure out what we were doing that would be considered "out of order." We were all over the map, tried to set up flanks, defended keeps. etc.

I'm just not clear on what the actual complaint is.

That seems OK to me.

Originally Posted by summerf

Last night (for the first time) I ran with Skully's raid. Admittedly, I'm a solo-er, so I don't have tons of experience with raids.

Since I have seen "Skully complaints" from freeps (on their creeps) in OOC relentlessly this week, I paid attention - and honestly could not figure out what we were doing that would be considered "out of order." We were all over the map, tried to set up flanks, defended keeps. etc.

I'm just not clear on what the actual complaint is.

You can see what others cant with all those eyes

Originally Posted by LEGENDofALL

You can see what others cant with all those eyes

others as in you?

This is a true...Zurg!

Originally Posted by Skydawg

This is a true...Zurg!

lol
words and stuff

Originally Posted by crazybob24

others as in you?

Im probably more neutral out in the moors then most people if not all considering ive played both sides ALOT and see things happening on bothsides that are way out of whack.

Thanks for thinking differently and your kind words

It is What it is i have both freep and creep, but in the end im a Freep and i will continue to be a freep, also Im a tanking class. and i do admit at times my antics and shenanigans are over kill but ask yourself can every warden do that?

Ive played warden since day 1 pve and pvp ive dealth with the nerfs and buffs and eventually ill get the stick again. i've learned to replay warden so many times because of our changes. Which means Several things. 1. Because im a tank class you DONT have to attack me. 2. you wanna hide in your npcs ill charge is and see what i can do and to me thats fun. i may get kills here and there, i solo, i small group, i raid ive had fun. But in the End Eventually I Will Die which Brings me to My point.

A. Im not unkillable nor do i think otherwise and when i die i ask myself how could have that gone different. if youre so worried about me then dont attack me ive countless times chased after creeps out numbered or not into their npcs and ive retreated to my own ive also sat in a keep (lumber camp) kiting the entirety of the camp around with my favorite healing rk for a good portion of time fighting 6+ creeps. or like earlier when i met the group at gta and retreated back towards ec. They came at me and i did what i could not every person who rolls a warden can do that and i would have died if it wasnt for elmo So nicely gave me anti-stun and saved me #### but hey thats why hes my bromance. but eventually i do die and then Ill just click a button and be back very soon. To me its all good Fun and its not exactly just npcs to fight there are others behind the keyboard so QQ aint even worth it because one day we can be OP and another we can be UP. like i said before those that play their mains more then ppl on alts should excel compared to those who dont.

In the end I Still Respect both sides Soul i still do love you even if you dont feel the same way about me *notices cheeto in pocket*

I don't hate you or even dislike you Gil, thought you knew better, it's all good. <3 ya even if I can't be your bromance! Hehe...I DO get frustrated, yup yup, and yeah, I'll say stupid things heh...but it is what it is and I get over it, not like I sit at home alone in the corner talking to myself and plotting ways to steal all your cheetos...wait, did I say that out loud?

Very nice to see that Riddermark isn't the only place with PVP problems

Lotros biggest pvp problem in my honest opinion would have to be a little thing called raiting/leaderboards. Just because of that people tend to forget this is a game. the leaderboards turn people into competative ........... .again my opinion

Originally Posted by angrolas

That seems OK to me.

i talked to skulls on my creep a lil while ago and he was kinda blahh about it. but i will admit the whole interupting gta 1v1s cause he wants them moved to cm is a lil dumb in my opinion. and there was something else awhile ago that i did to make skully mad, according to him its all good now

Originally Posted by Skydawg

I don't hate you or even dislike you Gil, thought you knew better, it's all good. <3 ya even if I can't be your bromance! Hehe...I DO get frustrated, yup yup, and yeah, I'll say stupid things heh...but it is what it is and I get over it, not like I sit at home alone in the corner talking to myself and plotting ways to steal all your cheetos...wait, did I say that out loud?

Oh i Do i was about to be so sad then i remember hey its cheetos boy flaming, hot spicy, cheetos we need more souls creep side. i had to rest my fingers from the tr fight this morning which nice job we werent able to take the keep D:

Soul I <3 you and I <3 Skully everytime i take a keep I let him know i love him in ooc <3 anyways missed ya this morning was lots of fun but probably highly irritating.

Originally Posted by Lord_Cryptic

Im a tanking class

This. Sometimes people complain about how wardens take so long to die, but in the end, as much as I try to play my warden like a champ, it's still a tank and not a DPS class, the main utility of the warden is when he's not being targeted at all due to he's diehard style so he can healer harass, and now stack Inc Healing debuffs. And it will never, NEVER have enough burst damage to be a solid DPS class in the moors.

Sure, I wish my "tanking" warleader could outheal 3 burgs as my "tanking" warden can outheal 3 wargs. But that's turbine business.

I saw a lot of people complaining (myself included), with how long Belefor was taking to die when he brought his healing RK a couple days ago. But then again, he's a dedicated healing class, we can't just expect him to fall as easily as his DPS traited counterpart does.

If anyone's bothered that a tank can tank, I'm bothered that your stealth classes can just stealth. How stupid?

Errr, im a hobbit, ur a warg. Whats stealth precious? =P

I wish my Lm could do all those things but this is my main and i've played threw the ups and downs and i enjoy it to tell you the truth. There are changes id love to see but im all honesty i dont want to be ever consider OP for many reasons....

1. Means more Lms in the moors

2. Look another Ezmode/gmode LM

So hopefully someday my small wishes come true and nothing more so i can go about my business without anyone noticing me ...probably should stop CJ people and that might help too.

Originally Posted by Esegar

This. Sometimes people complain about how wardens take so long to die, but in the end, as much as I try to play my warden like a champ, it's still a tank and not a DPS class, the main utility of the warden is when he's not being targeted at all due to he's diehard style so he can healer harass, and now stack Inc Healing debuffs. And it will never, NEVER have enough burst damage to be a solid DPS class in the moors.

Sure, I wish my "tanking" warleader could outheal 3 burgs as my "tanking" warden can outheal 3 wargs. But that's turbine business.

I saw a lot of people complaining (myself included), with how long Belefor was taking to die when he brought his healing RK a couple days ago. But then again, he's a dedicated healing class, we can't just expect him to fall as easily as his DPS traited counterpart does.

If anyone's bothered that a tank can tank, I'm bothered that your stealth classes can just stealth. How stupid?

Right exactly. though its easy to tell good wardens from bad and thats still what i like to see. besides classes the stack mit even if we stack p-mastery and fight them we will never have that sort of fire power and all that did was make us weaker and i dont want more dps we have so many gambits that do so many different things from 8 bleeds to a knockdown to a tier bleed the list goes on you cant just spam one gambit well you could but you wouldnt get as far.

Logged on my spider long enough to have a guard sprint away from a fair 1v1 with me - I have 1 audacity. Then as he runs away, an RK shows up and stands in her bears and ECs me for 8k a few seconds into the fight. He continued to run and didn't even get anything for it.

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