Thread: Changes to the Moors with RoR

They will fix BA auto attack melee skills as they still do fire damage, oh noez!

Originally Posted by angrolas

From the RoR community Q&A with Aaron Campbell:
Q-Will there be any changes to PvMP, and if so, what kinds?

A-PvMP is getting a pretty substantial content update; we're reworking the Ettenmoors capture mechanics to focus your rewards around killing other players – not killing NPCs

This is what they said.

And this is what will happen:
Creeps
Removed the quest to kill First Marshal An, who is a NPC.
Removed the quest to trade in NPC parts(like man parts) for rewards (same changes apply for quests regarding elf NPCs, dwarf NPCs and hobbit appendages).
Removed the quest to kill a NPC(old goldhead).
Removed the quest to kill another NPC(Golloval).
Removed quest revolving the kill counts of NPCs in the moors. They are now balanced for better PvPing by being completely removed.
Removed quests that had the word "NPC" in them. Since focus is being given to PvPing in the moors all quests are therefore against the sense of Balance.
Added a NEW daily quest for ALL creeps: Kill 50 guards, 50 captains, 1 hunter, 66 champions, 50 loremasters and 99 Rune Keepers for 100 Inf. & Comms.
Added a NEW daily quest for ALL creeps: Kill 1 shield traited warden for 10 Inf/Comms. (Spear or Fist traited wardens do not count for the quest's kill count)
Added a NEW raid quest for ALL creeps above rank 6: Kill a minstrel without dying out in combat for 200 Inf/Comms.
Ost Ringdyr is now balanced and the NPCs have been converted into the one shotters (elite) type for the sake of Balance in the moors.
Hobbit NPCs get a movespeed buff as per the LotR lore and can stealth in combat also as per lore.


Freeps
Added a campire next to the bird along with the release of three NEW recipes: Grilled Bird, Roasted Bird and Raw Birdbrains for tier 3 cooks. Creeps also drop bird ingredients, as loot has been balanced for the moors.
Killing NPCs now offer ONLY loot (any NPCs who offered Inf and Comms have been balanced to not give any) and killing Creep Players will now give a consecutive bonus for number of creeps killed without dying out. (The buff is reset to 50% of current value for each of the player's death in the moors)

Well that settles it. I was considering pre ordering but now its a resounding no. Lying to the face of your customers is a solid business model.

Wow.....they just lied to our faces!

/angryeyes

Originally Posted by n38

Everything you need is there and it takes no more time than it did before, same priorities as the last 5 years. If you have an issue with that you need to look up how to start a creep properly.

Signed Deluded Turbine Employee 127

---- Rofl tho good one!

Originally Posted by n38

Everything you need is there and it takes no more time than it did before, same priorities as the last 5 years. If you have an issue with that you need to look up how to start a creep properly.

The number of classes that can't solo a keep is considerably lower than the number that can. WLs, defilers, wargs, spiders can all solo the same keeps that wardens can. Reaver should be able to as well depending on the keep with sufficient kiting and a few extra lucky GP crits.

Not even going to bother with the latter point.

./learntoplay.

Are you playing the same game we are all playing? Do you even know what creepside is?

They really need to stop selling crack in the LOTRO store.....

LOTRO, its a hellluva drug.....

Even the PvErs are getting ripped off... Many people pre-ordered Rohan thinking they'll get the quests, mounted combat, instance cluster etc. etc.
Turns out, most of that stuff was free anyway, and the instance cluster was a separate buy. Turbine said the instances will come with the expac, but later on they said that the statement was "a mistake".

Now they'll know what it feels like to be a PvPer

Originally Posted by n38

The number of classes that can't solo a keep is considerably lower than the number that can. WLs, defilers, wargs, spiders can all solo the same keeps that wardens can. Reaver should be able to as well depending on the keep with sufficient kiting and a few extra lucky GP crits.

So basically, new players get screwed over even harder. And remember turbine introduced infamy/commendations for quests in the first place. Backtracking and calling it progress ftw.

A rock hard base to build a community on turbine...

Oh Turbine, you know you're screwed when even the PvE players are unhappy.

Originally Posted by Stevo6

Oh Turbine, you know you're screwed when even the PvE players are unhappy.

LOL



On another note. Even if they promise changes and updates to PvP........ DON'T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS UNTIL THEY HATCH. I remember when they promised a new PvMP map with a previous announcement. A few of my old PvP buddies re-subbed and came back to play again. They cancelled once they found that they were actually lied to.

Even if Turbine said, "Hey, yep, we got a HUGE, AWESOME, NEW map for PvP!!!!!!" I would not believe them until I could step foot on it with my own two feet. Turbine has never been honest with us about PvP.

Hence, I cancelled both my subs a couple weeks ago, and I am done with this game. The only thing I'd even consider looking at again is if they actually brought out a new map, or got a new Hunter dev. Have you heard? Hunters get an improved DF skill with RoR. It now affects the whole fellowship!! ROFL...

Originally Posted by angrolas

From the RoR community Q&A with Aaron Campbell:
Q-Will there be any changes to PvMP, and if so, what kinds?

A-PvMP is getting a pretty substantial content update; we're reworking the Ettenmoors capture mechanics to focus your rewards around killing other players – not killing NPCs

I read this as now just capturing keeps/outposts will yield renown/infamy on top of the quests which essentially does the opposite of focusing on rewards for killing players and not NPCs since to take said thing you have to kill all NPCs and maybe some other players.