Thread: Too many wargs

Originally Posted by Ozthorn

You do realize that there is more than 1 way out of GV, don't you?

No see, if he takes one of those ways, he cant QQ

Originally Posted by Squelcher

Every thread that has anything to do with wargs is always so active. Wargs cannot take a little criticism and freeps, facing a class that is actually reasonably strong for once, think wargs are violenty OP... Vicious cycle.

Don't think it's so much "can't take a little criticism" as it is "tired of people hating on us all the freaking time." There've been threads hating on Wargs since well before I was here.

I figure most of the Freeps are just Cat people...

Originally Posted by Ozthorn

Fixed for you.

Lol thank you . Very true as well. I caught a Warden trying to solo Lugz a couple of days ago. He probably would have if I hadn't pounced him.

Originally Posted by cmal

Wargs can handle themselves as well. I usually run around out of stealth and then use stealth as soon as I am spotted. Usually end up dropping it around 30 seconds later as I am tracked and need to restealth.

No permanent stealth would force you to use it as an actual skill, as difficult as that may sound. Give it a shot sometime. Keep in mind I think this should apply to burgs as well.

BTW, most wargs have greater mitigation than my warden. In fact it is greater than what my warden is even capable of, barring DC.

Finally, at no point have I called for any class to be nerfed. I think most creeps should be buffed. I have never called a class OP. I don't understand why people are so quick to blame others of QQ. Oh wait, they can't think of an actual argument so clearly those who disagree are simply noob PTW starhuggers.

I do give it a shot. There are large parts of my day on Creepside where I run around unstealthed. Unfortunately on my server, most things that are unstealthed get ganked and zerged. (talking about freeps and creeps).
Most wargs may have more mitigations than you, but can they solo whole keeps? Heck no. Not sure if you were trying to compare wargs and wardens.
I didn't accuse youof QQing. I never thought you were.
Not sure if you are calling me a noob PTW starhugger, but my forum sig indicates otherwise.....
Many wargs can handle themselves yes......mainly the PTW ones though. Most freeps (except the hunter, and to some degree rks and poorly played lms) can handle wargs with ease.....as long as it is only one of course

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

Cannot leave my home base without 20 wargs on me

1. It might have to do with the server that you play on. Different servers have different ratios of the types of creeps, as well as freeps.

2. This is what we Creeps (all of us) feel like as low-ranks. Cowardly Burglars who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag without stealth, who constantly camp Gramsfoot and anywhere a Creeps quests at. They wait until a Creep is doing something to help themselves, then deprive them of that privilege by stunning them, then killing them and scampering off into the shadows again, only to repeat the pathetic process until they get bored or rooted out by a High-Rank Creep. So don't complain that our wargs do something similar. If it were up to me, neither Burglars nor Wargs would do this, alas, it is not.

Originally Posted by Sulfur

Then I must amend for the implication-impaired. Perma-OOC stealth.
Better princess?

And last I recall flayer doesn't require you to forgo stealth to use because it can be applied whilst in combat. The two aren't the same thing.

If you think Warg/Burg stealth is "perma"...wait until you see GW2 Thief stealth

The problem is not the warg, but that you find 80% wargs in EM sometimes.... surely you find less than 20% burg... why all play wargs?

http://dailystats.theblackappendage....al-pvmp-trends

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

If you think Warg/Burg stealth is "perma"...wait until you see GW2 Thief stealth

Dear moorwyn, as I'm currently in beta and you are generally clueless. Wait until *you* see it.

Originally Posted by Arlecchino79

The problem is not the warg, but that you find 80% wargs in EM sometimes.... surely you find less than 20% burg... why all play wargs?

http://dailystats.theblackappendage....al-pvmp-trends

Because warg is the only creep class that can manage in Moors right now. Warg and Blackarrow to some degree. Why play a class that almost guarantees you will be zerged if you aren't already high rank?

Originally Posted by Braxwald

1. It might have to do with the server that you play on. Different servers have different ratios of the types of creeps, as well as freeps.

2. This is what we Creeps (all of us) feel like as low-ranks. Cowardly Burglars who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag without stealth, who constantly camp Gramsfoot and anywhere a Creeps quests at. They wait until a Creep is doing something to help themselves, then deprive them of that privilege by stunning them, then killing them and scampering off into the shadows again, only to repeat the pathetic process until they get bored or rooted out by a High-Rank Creep. So don't complain that our wargs do something similar. If it were up to me, neither Burglars nor Wargs would do this, alas, it is not.

^ This. +rep

Finally found the other way out of GV ...no Wargs around

Thanks whoever mentioned it and + Rep

Originally Posted by Sulfur

I'm currently in beta and you are generally clueless. Wait until *you* see it.

No perma stealth and no ridiculous crits

Good to know GW2 is balanced

http://guildwars2hub.com/profession-...age-single-hit

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

No perma stealth and no ridiculous crits

Good to know GW2 is balanced

http://guildwars2hub.com/profession-...age-single-hit

Good thing that article has nothing to do with stealth and basically focuses on a glass cannon thief build. Yeah, try harder.

Originally Posted by Sulfur

Good thing that article has nothing to do with stealth and basically focuses on a glass cannon thief build. Yeah, try harder.

20K damage is 20K damage

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

20K damage is 20K damage

Isolated damage minus a context is isolated damage minus a context. Arguing with you is brain damage.

Originally Posted by Sulfur

Isolated damage minus a context is isolated damage minus a context. Arguing with you is brain damage.

Did you give up trying to speak Latin?

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

Did you give up trying to speak Latin?

Oh look, a topic switch. Did you quit or get banned?

Originally Posted by Sulfur

Oh look, a topic switch. Did you quit or get banned?

I " retired "

You?

Originally Posted by Sulfur

Good thing that article has nothing to do with stealth and basically focuses on a glass cannon thief build. Yeah, try harder.

70-80% of your Opponents health on an opener and its not OP? No matter how you spin it that isn't balanced and the video about the thief shows it clearly. The best that anyone who faced off against him could do is run. Even the guy playing the thief was laughing at himself.

What is even more ridiculous is one of the comments about the video:

"I played with a venom build and it rapes, this build is less skill based and more hit 1 button base.... it angers me cause people now are going to complain about thieves being OP."

This guy is a genius. Derp..Derp..

If anyone thinks GW2 is going to be released "balanced" then I have some ocean front property in Idaho I'd like to sell them.

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

No perma stealth and no ridiculous crits

Good to know GW2 is balanced

http://guildwars2hub.com/profession-...age-single-hit

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

20K damage is 20K damage

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

Did you give up trying to speak Latin?

Originally Posted by Gundamyr

I " retired "

You?

This is why I think this is purebloodworg - He tried to bash GW2 but remains unsuccessful.

That "20k damage thief" will be a very juicy glass cannon. Thiefs are already in the middle health bracket, so his health and toughness will be horribly low. He would be a easy target for my necromancer.