Thread: Is there any point to buffing physical mitigation?

I mean, common mitigation is fairly easy to cap at 70%. And I can't think of any bosses that do physical damage that ISN'T common.

So is there a point? It looks like if the damage isn't common, then it will go to physical damage to see what reduction we get, but... as I said, I can't think of any damage that bosses that do non-common physical damage.

Or do you get double reductions on all physical damage (once for common and one for physcial)? After some experimentation I believe this is NOT the case, but I could be wrong.

Any insight would be appreciated.

You're right, there's no point in buffing physical mit after your common mit hits cap. No westernesse damage to be found, no double reduction or anything like that.

If you're way over common mit cap in raids (around 18k common mit rating) you might consider dropping one of the +1k phys mit bows that you guardians like in favor of something with another stat. Though yours is cool and has some crit too. EDIT: a quick lorebook search revealed to me that y'all don't have a whole lot of options in that dept.

Can more or less guarantee you cap common once geared, so yes, ignore phys and include tact when fights require it.

If you spar alot and want a more defensive build then going higher physical mits may be nice but no mobs will attack with anything other than common or tactical. Get common mits capped and dont worry about the rest of physical for tanking.

Think this thread will work for my question:


In shadow t2 pulls and adds at the boss, the damage is mainly common with a bit of tact damage in poison, shadow and wounds... I trait a lot of phy mit to get my common way over the cap(15-16k) because i was under the impression that since they're lvl 76 and 77, i gotta get my common mits over the cap. Now, the problem with this, is that i don't trait much tact mit for those pulls and the boss adds, and maybe i should...

Basically, does going over capped in common mits against lvl 76 and 77 work, or should i just go tact since we can't overcap common mits even against higher lvl mobs, at least till we're still lvl 75?


Thanks in advance

You have just ruined all my plans :P Well I am still leveling and I try to raise all the physical mitigation virtues I can because I have read that these are the best..Innocence, Compassion for example..

Also I had also some questions. Guardian wear Heavy Armour and focus a lot on vitality Might that both buffs mitigations and morale..do they really need physical mitigation as for example hunter, burglar, wardens need? I do not plan to raid at max level I simple leveling characters..so should I continue focus on these virtues?

In another thread I also read that resistance is a joke..someone traited full resistance , got resistance foods, resistance armour just to make the tests..then he went to an instance with wolves if I remember and he saw from the combat log and a plugin that only 1% of all attacks have been resisted..

So if resistance is useless, physical mitigation is not as good as I thought to, then what? what matters? Should I go for straight stats virtues for leveling?Like Loyalty, Determination, Discipline, Valour?

Originally Posted by Ampalaea

So if resistance is useless, physical mitigation is not as good as I thought to, then what? what matters?

Tactical mitigation.

Originally Posted by Ampalaea

So if resistance is useless, physical mitigation is not as good as I thought to, then what? what matters? Should I go for straight stats virtues for leveling?Like Loyalty, Determination, Discipline, Valour?

A couple points in response.

1. Currently, guards with good raid gear can easily cap common mit (vs lvl 75 anyway) without slotting innocence and compassion. That may not always be the case, and certainly won't be while you are leveling. So I wouldn't ignore those virtues. Having said that, I will slot and use Fidelity and Tolerance far more often. Zeal, Valour and Loyalty are no-brainers and discipline or determination aren't bad either.

2. Resistances are useful vs. certain types of dots or pool effects, and I can assure you that you'll resist much higher than 1% of those types of effects. However, guards have inherently high resistances due to their large Vit scores, and the benefit is relatively minor considering that direct damage is far bigger than dots for us. Don't worry about slotting charity or similar.

Originally Posted by Pharnquer

A couple points in response.

1. Currently, guards with good raid gear can easily cap common mit (vs lvl 75 anyway) without slotting innocence and compassion. That may not always be the case, and certainly won't be while you are leveling. So I wouldn't ignore those virtues. Having said that, I will slot and use Fidelity and Tolerance far more often. Zeal, Valour and Loyalty are no-brainers and discipline or determination aren't bad either.

2. Resistances are useful vs. certain types of dots or pool effects, and I can assure you that you'll resist much higher than 1% of those types of effects. However, guards have inherently high resistances due to their large Vit scores, and the benefit is relatively minor considering that direct damage is far bigger than dots for us. Don't worry about slotting charity or similar.

Thank you :P

Originally Posted by Maelendil

Tactical mitigation.

I was talking mostly for Leveling and 3-man dungeons mostly :P I don't think I will join raids for now