Thread: Game of Thrones

Anyone else notice that the White Walkers sounded a WHOLE lot like the Nazgul??

maybe they were calling to them? :O

So that's how they look! Hiding under their black hooded cloaks!

I've noticed that too. I commented to my husband about that, and he said they did sound similar.

What what what? Game of Thrones borrowed something from Tolkien? That is amazing, surely that is the ONLY thing in game of thrones that is at all borrowed from Tolkien!

i did also noticed that. (please add a Spoiler alert :3)

Not really. The nazghûl are ghosts. They have no form. The white walkers are like zombies, but without the slow walking and the braiiiiiins thingy. By the way, after The Lord of the Rings, A Song of Ice and Fire are my favorite book series.

Maybe the TV series does yes, but the original novels had very little to no magic in them. The author wrote of magic and things of magic in the past, but very little magic occurred during the setting of the novels.

I have purposely not read the books so that I can experience everything first hand from the show.

Season two was BY FAR better than season 1.


This is my favourite show to come along since The Sopranos

I don't remember the sound the walkers made, but they did look pretty cool. If they do sound like the nazgul, and any other similarities to Tolien's works, I would consider that as paying homage, not a rip off. In fact, I do remember a couple of lines of texts in the books that sound like Tolkien had written them.

Overall, I liked season one better, but that might have been because I had never read or heard about Martin. By the time season two began I had already finished the second book and I believe that might have ruined the second season for me a bit. Some things were left out, some things changed a bit, some things shortened. The best thing about the series for me is that it helps me with keeping track of all the characters in the books.

Of course they are going to sound similar, they are screeching. That's like saying a bear's and lion's roar sound similar, they do, they are roars.

I just realized the sound of the horn-call Theon was so ticked off about is the exact same one we hear all the time announcing yet another enemy wave in Skirmishes.

When I mentioned it to a kinnie, he likened the scene with Theon's rallying speech to a Skirmish Raid forming, followed by everyone voting to kick the leader who just won't shut up.

I think I laughed for about ten minutes.

Originally Posted by Fantoma

I have purposely not read the books so that I can experience everything first hand from the show.

Big mistake... If you want to experience the full world of the Song of Ice and Fire, read the books first. They are much better than the movies. With the plus of the story getting better and better with each new book.

Originally Posted by EldarMenil

Not really. The nazghûl are ghosts. They have no form. The white walkers are like zombies, but without the slow walking and the braiiiiiins thingy. By the way, after The Lord of the Rings, A Song of Ice and Fire are my favorite book series.

Actually the wights are technically zombies, the White Walkers (Others) are a humanoid race from the far north who reanimate the dead (wights) for their armies.

Originally Posted by Puravidaman

Maybe the TV series does yes, but the original novels had very little to no magic in them. The author wrote of magic and things of magic in the past, but very little magic occurred during the setting of the novels.

Yes little compared to most fantasy fair but the second book alone has Melisandre, her shadow baby, the attack on the Fist of the First Men by the Others and the HoTU.

Originally Posted by bohun

Overall, I liked season one better, but that might have been because I had never read or heard about Martin. By the time season two began I had already finished the second book and I believe that might have ruined the second season for me a bit. Some things were left out, some things changed a bit, some things shortened. The best thing about the series for me is that it helps me with keeping track of all the characters in the books.

The thing about the first season was it was practically the first book and those things that were changed seemed to be overall for the better. I can say that honestly if you watched season 1 you could skip (while missing some history) AGoT. Season 2 was different though as a ton of stuff was overall changed, some of it for the worse. Dany, Arya and Jon's storylines all were changed for no apparent reason and (outside Arya) the outcome was not better. Also whole scenes, plot points and characters were left out some of which pretty important.

Still was overall happy for the season and glad this story is being adapted to TV.

Originally Posted by 1_v01d_0

Actually the wights are technically zombies, the White Walkers (Others) are a humanoid race from the far north who reanimate the dead (wights) for their armies.



Yes little compared to most fantasy fair but the second book alone has Melisandre, her shadow baby, the attack on the Fist of the First Men by the Others and the HoTU.



The thing about the first season was it was practically the first book and those things that were changed seemed to be overall for the better. I can say that honestly if you watched season 1 you could skip (while missing some history) AGoT. Season 2 was different though as a ton of stuff was overall changed, some of it for the worse. Dany, Arya and Jon's storylines all were changed for no apparent reason and (outside Arya) the outcome was not better. Also whole scenes, plot points and characters were left out some of which pretty important.

Still was overall happy for the season and glad this story is being adapted to TV.

kinda disappointed they changed Arya's and Jon's story lines. I did remember hearing that the second season focused more on Rob than the book did but I think that was more because HBO thought Rob would sell better than Arya. I will probably buy season two on DVD anyway though. Don't have HBO, a tv or cable. And aside from a few rare shows over the years (Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica) I don't miss em.

Originally Posted by tkroll

kinda disappointed they changed Arya's and Jon's story lines. I did remember hearing that the second season focused more on Rob than the book did but I think that was more because HBO thought Rob would sell better than Arya. I will probably buy season two on DVD anyway though. Don't have HBO, a tv or cable. And aside from a few rare shows over the years (Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica) I don't miss em.

Oh I would definately suggest getting the season, it was good but suffered from first and foremost I think time constraints. That is a lot of material to put into 10 hours honestly. Arya's story while changed actually wasnt for the worst, I missed Weasel Soup and stuff but I loved the dynamic between Arya and Tywin. Jon's storyline, while it seemed most viewers understood what was going on between Jon and Qhorin, it to me lack a lot of Ghost

Danys is the hardest to swallow for most book readers as her storyline in the book was very meh, and the HoTU was the saving grace for it. Same with tv show really, I mean everytime we saw Dany she was whining about this, demanding that, fire and blood fire and blood. And while TV HoTU probably made much much more sense then the actual HoTU scenes would have made to the viewer it was disappointing to book readers overall. Plus there are visions in book version of HoTU that would have possibly spoiled future events.

Also one last beef with what really was overall a good season, no Basta*d of Bolton, hbo Cillian Murphy as Ramsey Snow next season, yes please.

Originally Posted by 1_v01d_0

Actually the wights are technically zombies, the White Walkers (Others) are a humanoid race from the far north who reanimate the dead (wights) for their armies.

Yes, i remember now. You are right. Anyway, the white walkers have nothing to do with the nazgûl. They are not dead or undead. In the books, in terms of anatomy (the look), there's really no big difference between the white walkers and the wights. What you see in the HBO series is their's making (except the blue eyes).

Originally Posted by EldarMenil

Yes, i remember now. You are right. Anyway, the white walkers have nothing to do with the nazgûl. They are not dead or undead. In the books, in terms of anatomy (the look), there's really no big difference between the white walkers and the wights. What you see in the HBO series is their's making (except the blue eyes).

The Others were far more overtly fantastical in appearance, in the books - that weird armour they wore, and the way there was a blue 'ghost-light' playing about those slender crystalline swords of theirs. I always thought that was a bit out of keeping with the general tone of the books and I rather like HBO's more down-to-earth version.

That said, I think that with Season 2 some of the plot and character changes are getting a bit out of hand.

Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU

The Others were far more overtly fantastical in appearance, in the books - that weird armour they wore, and the way there was a blue 'ghost-light' playing about those slender crystalline swords of theirs. I always thought that was a bit out of keeping with the general tone of the books and I rather like HBO's more down-to-earth version.

That said, I think that with Season 2 some of the plot and character changes are getting a bit out of hand.

Humm.. i don't remember the reference to the armor and the blue ghost-light of the crystalline weapons in the books. I Guess i have to read the 10 books all over again (the Portuguese publisher spitted the books).

Originally Posted by EldarMenil

Humm.. i don't remember the reference to the armor and the blue ghost-light of the crystalline weapons in the books. I Guess i have to read the 10 books all over again (the Portuguese publisher spitted the books).

You won't have to read far, it's in the prologue to the first book

Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU

You won't have to read far, it's in the prologue to the first book

Got it. Page 16. Two years have passed since i read it. Good memories

Originally Posted by tkroll

kinda disappointed they changed Arya's and Jon's story lines. I did remember hearing that the second season focused more on Rob than the book did but I think that was more because HBO thought Rob would sell better than Arya. I will probably buy season two on DVD anyway though. Don't have HBO, a tv or cable. And aside from a few rare shows over the years (Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica) I don't miss em.

I noticed that as well, but to be honest I found the Arya chapters kind of boring until the last fifth of the book. I wasn't mad that HBO decided to ween off her story a bit.