I've been playing lotro pretty much since the beginning. All I really care about is PvP. The rest of the game is kinda lame to me.
I've been playing Diablo 3 since it came out. I find it to be fricken awesome and they are holding off on implementing their PvP. They have an arena style of team battles already made out. They just aren't happy with it yet. They say they'll be putting it in soon. But in the mean time, there is a lot of grinding to do to try to get ready. And I must say, I find the PvE on Diablo 3 more fun than the PvP I've been having on lotro as of late.
I'm not blaming the game though. The moors is a sandbox that becomes whatever the players make out of it.
I played on Landroval for nearly 5 years. I did pretty good there I'd say. I'd even open groups and lots of people would join it. We had a lot of fun.
Recently I went to Elendilmir because I heard the freeps work together a lot better over there. Being a redlined traited LM also traited for SI and Wound Clears, I only care about large raiding. I didn't roll on gear with a lot of Vitality, which normally also consist of Might and Agility and such. So I know I'm a glass cannon. It's how I built myself.
Point I'm making is that I don't care about 1v1s and even small grouping is a pain when I'm one of the first to be targeted. I can be one of your best dpsers as long as I can get some inductions off.
I've been looking at the PvP leaderboards and noticed you guys have a good bit of kins, at least on freepside, that seem to come out in force. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for that take no prisoners, want to eradicate creepside, freepside kin.
But the million dollar question is....how is the action on Brandywine? And I don't want some soloer or person who whines about zerg balls to give an answer. Unless you're just one of those troller types. Trollers crack me up.
Now that the question is asked, I'll mention some ground I'd like the answer to cover if you don't mind.
On Landroval, the player-made codes of conduct were very limited. There were your general, "Do this and your just being a butt", type of things that most people adhered too. They had limited 1v1 circles. Normally called out in ooc or even scheduled and held in areas where they wouldn't be disturbed. If 1v1 circles got broke up in the open(Common areas to find players playing the sandbox), 95% of everyone just laughed at the 1 or 2 guys who cried about it being broke up. Most people didn't let a single or pair of creeps waltz on past them. Its part of knowing the map and its also a learning process for new guys to be zerged in areas they should know, or will eventually know how to handle. And people didn't cry about others using everything they possibly could at their disposal to win a fight. That means pots, brands, RACIAL SKILLS(This still cracks me up), etc, etc.
What I'm getting at is, Landroval seemed to, at least somewhat, just play the game the devs created and tested to specific purposes. There were those who thought to make it whatever they wanted it to be. And they failed ofcoarse. Just as anyone who ever tries to change the game and the community. There is no 1 player that is bigger than the community. There is no 1 player who can change or even slightly manipulate what the community wants to do. 99% of the people on Landroval knew that.
Though I enjoyed the cut-throat style on Landroval, there was a lot that it lacked. A large population for one thing. And ofcoarse, one side always seemed to be the dominate. Or at least wanted to be the dominate without actually proving it. The raid vs raid mentality isn't there. There's no organization from both sides. Freeps have freep-goggles and creeps have creep-goggles. They weren't trying to build a large force on one side and a large one on the other and smash in to eachother on an open field. Frankly, my money would go to creepside in an even fight there. With no offense to many great players, the freep raids on Landy were hardly ever done well. Consisting of people targeting the nearest target all the time. Often I see them continueing to pound on the same bubbled creep. Hoping and praying that bubble wears off so they can get that 1 kill before their whole freep raid wipes. I've seen some sad stuff. lol Saddest being the overall lack of heals from Minnies and just general lack of teamwork all together. You can't just join a raid and expect to do well.
That's where I want to talk about Elendilmir. There are a lot more players on E. And when they do decide to get together, they do very well. I've had probably more raid vs raid in the open field fights on E in the past month than my entire time on Landy. Both sides are in cahoots to make the fights as epic as possible. The problem I'm having is there are too many player-made codes of conduct. Don't do this and don't do that. Players try to use these as tools to have the exact types of fights they want. What they don't realize is that none of them pertain or eventually equal to the common goal both sides have. And not to pick on creeps too much, but I don't see them following ANY of these codes. Which ultimately leads to freeps getting annihilated and saying, "Oh well good try. I'm sure those creeps won't do that a second time and we'll have a good fight the next go round." WRONG! I'm thinking to myself, the creeps on E must be drooling over all the Infamy the freeps are giving them. The freeps let greenies and soloers and all the weaklings pass them by and they scream, "Don't hit them!", thinking this will change the face of the moors. And people will be able to roam about from HH to Isen and frolick TRA LA LA all over and not get zerged...EVER. Please people. And there are only little windows of time were there are raid vs raid action. The rest of the action consists of craids or small creep groups beating up on those honorable soloers. It mostly equals out to freeps getting outnumbered, or creeps aren't trying. And when theres a fraid, they let the few creeps walk by. All the while having the pop buff and theres a craid twice their side around the corner. THATS WHERE THOSE 2 CREEPS WERE GOING! lol It's a mess really. I'd rather PvE on Diablo. Which is sad, because I really only like PvP.
I've rambled a lot I know. This has to be my longest thread ever. But I hope this gives you guys an idea of what I'm looking for. I need all the info I can get before transfering. And I could play a creep on Brandywine to see how it is. But I feel that even after playing on a server for a month, you still don't get the full idea of how the action REALLY is. And frankly, I just don't feel like playing a lowbie creep for even a week with all the other games I play. So that's why I need a lot of info.
I already asked in a previous thread about any kins that are constantly raiding in the moors and are recruiting. I was told Entropy and Leithiani were some good ones.
Anyway, this concludes the rambling. I want to know if there is possibly another server that likes to raid a lot and do it well. Or should I just quit lotro and play Diablo and Guild Wars when it comes out?
Do you like being in groups to farm ungrouped, low rank creeps?
Do you love ganking rank zero's at HH over and over again?
Do you like being chewed on by warg packs with 12+ in, even though you're the only freep online?
Do you live P2Wing your way to victory?
Do yourself a favour, keep on playing Diablo and maybe try out GW2 when it comes out. There's another Beta Weekend for GW2 this weekend - pre-purchase to get access if you wish.
That said, there were (havn't logged in for a while) a few amount of 1v1 circles, they lasted at least half an hour before being ganked.
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I transferred to BW from arkenstone a few months ago, i've enjoyed my time here. I do like to participate in 1v1s and small groups but also in raiding. There was quite a few leaders out there who run well organized raids and they are a lot of fun.
First Tier:
- Brotherhood of the Shadow - long time PvP kin, very old school led by Jmez and Shanehere. Does group often, kin only groups.
- Iron Rangers - recent transfer kin, good people ... led by Snowlock. Does group often, kin only groups
Second Tier:
- Entropy - good players, some are pretty high ranked ... led by Leardin. Does group often and leads freep raid groups. Excellent skill level - just dont see them out as much as I see IR and BOTS. High quality player base for sure.
- Immortal Bezerkers - don't even know if their leader still plays, seems they used to come out often. Cant give you info on them hardly see them out. Led by Arrik, switched to creep side, led over there and gave up/unsubbed - dunno.
Third Tier:
- Leithiani - Large pvp player base. I like their leader Voa, but he is known as forming raids when the craid is not out. So a lot of creep QQ and a lot of freep soloer QQ 'cause it kills their action. Runs freep and kin only raids. Does a lot of pve in pvp ettenmoors. Not as well geared as bots, IR, Entropy...but they take a kill 'em attitude you describe.
- Tear for Fears - i think that's what they are called. Chinese kin...fun to group with.
As far as action...tons of rad v raid action. Lately creeps tend to give up easily and disband after fraid with 18+ shows up. Used to be amazing RvR action...been lackluster as of late.
I would say this is now a Freep dominated server. Before recent updates easily the best RvR server in LOTRO. Creep leaders have all but disappeared...Mal/Evil still lead. Evil will hide in keeps and ruins PvP. Mal led raids are a bit better. Beatlejuice will lead raids that are pretty good. Lug(something) is another craid leader as of late.
Brandywine's best days are long past...but I still remember when it used to be amazing. Still large population. There are no rules...fraid will easily stop and kill greenie. Same with craid. Lotta feuds, lotta hate, lotta fun still...but not what it used to be.
Thick skin and staying off the forums/chat will prolong your enjoyment of the game. The action itself is not terrible, and raids are run with the general philosophy to "Kill them all." That said, GW2 is around the corner .
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First Tier:
- Brotherhood of the Shadow - long time PvP kin, very old school led by Jmez and Shanehere. Does group often, kin only groups.
- Iron Rangers - recent transfer kin, good people ... led by Snowlock. Does group often, kin only groups
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I feel utterly rejected and heartbroken. But then again, I am inactive and clicky. Lol.
To the original poster - Judging from your time in this game (hinted from the start) Lethiani is not the place for you. Aside from that BW is one of the best servers to PVP noobs front right and center, sometimes elite raids, hardcore drama and lag. We have it all. Welcome.
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I feel utterly rejected and heartbroken. But then again, I am inactive and clicky. Lol.
To the original poster - Judging from your time in this game (hinted from the start) Lethiani is not the place for you. Aside from that BW is one of the best servers to PVP noobs front right and center, sometimes elite raids, hardcore drama and lag. We have it all. Welcome.
Professional Awesome, Resistance, Entropy...these are PvE kins primarily - from what I understand. I added entropy cause the OP mentioned it. But IR and BOTS are PvP kins with PvE on the side. I would think these 3 kins are great at PvE w/ PvP on the side.
Could be wrong...meant no disrespect to any members of any kins left off my list.
As to Suenami...sorry to ruffle your feathers princess. In my opinion if a freep transfer wants to come kill creeps with me sweet! If a creep transfer wants to come get killed by me...sweet! Either way...profit.
Why would you give turbine more money. Don't do that.
"Because I'm sane, and I know I am because I'm constantly thinking 'don't be crazy' to myself. Crazy people don't do that because crazy people don't worry about becoming crazy"
Seems like BW may have some good sense IMO as far as not trying to change the original mechanics. Because that's basically what happens when people make their codes of conduct.
I did see some complaining about a minni using some skills and saying they don't play fair. Though I know minnis are OP, this never seemed to stop Guards, Wards, WLs and Defilers from using their mega-solo skills to win 1v1s. I just don't believe in gimping yourself. If someone catches me 1v1, I expect them to use EVERYTHING they can to beat me. Because gimping yourself is actually a big insult IMO. And unless you are chatting with someone and know for sure they aren't using those mega skills, then you should use all of your mega skills. This is where all the complaining seems to happen. But no one wants to gimp themselves and then lose after the other guy didn't gimp himself. I know I may sound confusing because I can't find the best words to put it. All I can say is different strokes I guess.
I'll take this info in to consideration when deciding how to go about playing lotro.
To be frank, what I ultimately want from lotro is big equal fights in the open. Like most people do I'm sure. If there has to be some metagaming involved to get it, thats fine by me. Do freeps and creeps work to achieve this? And if they do, how often?
Seems like BW may have some good sense IMO as far as not trying to change the original mechanics. Because that's basically what happens when people make their codes of conduct.
I did see some complaining about a minni using some skills and saying they don't play fair. Though I know minnis are OP, this never seemed to stop Guards, Wards, WLs and Defilers from using their mega-solo skills to win 1v1s. I just don't believe in gimping yourself. If someone catches me 1v1, I expect them to use EVERYTHING they can to beat me. Because gimping yourself is actually a big insult IMO. And unless you are chatting with someone and know for sure they aren't using those mega skills, then you should use all of your mega skills. This is where all the complaining seems to happen. But no one wants to gimp themselves and then lose after the other guy didn't gimp himself. I know I may sound confusing because I can't find the best words to put it. All I can say is different strokes I guess.
I'll take this info in to consideration when deciding how to go about playing lotro.
To be frank, what I ultimately want from lotro is big equal fights in the open. Like most people do I'm sure. If there has to be some metagaming involved to get it, thats fine by me. Do freeps and creeps work to achieve this? And if they do, how often?
I feel utterly rejected and heartbroken. But then again, I am inactive and clicky. Lol.
To the original poster - Judging from your time in this game (hinted from the start) Lethiani is not the place for you. Aside from that BW is one of the best servers to PVP noobs front right and center, sometimes elite raids, hardcore drama and lag. We have it all. Welcome.
your kin has way too many starhuggers and trolls. Tibulent is a great example.
it's cool, if you don't solo you're going to have to blow all your cds (which is all of ONE on a LM so lolz.. such a big deal about 1 skill). grouped freeps are anathema to creepside and you'll die after you blow wisdom ^^
First Tier:
- Brotherhood of the Shadow - long time PvP kin, very old school led by Jmez and Shanehere. Does group often, kin only groups.
- Iron Rangers - recent transfer kin, good people ... led by Snowlock. Does group often, kin only groups
Second Tier:
- Entropy - good players, some are pretty high ranked ... led by Leardin. Does group often and leads freep raid groups. Excellent skill level - just dont see them out as much as I see IR and BOTS. High quality player base for sure.
- Immortal Bezerkers - don't even know if their leader still plays, seems they used to come out often. Cant give you info on them hardly see them out. Led by Arrik, switched to creep side, led over there and gave up/unsubbed - dunno.
Third Tier:
- Leithiani - Large pvp player base. I like their leader Voa, but he is known as forming raids when the craid is not out. So a lot of creep QQ and a lot of freep soloer QQ 'cause it kills their action. Runs freep and kin only raids. Does a lot of pve in pvp ettenmoors. Not as well geared as bots, IR, Entropy...but they take a kill 'em attitude you describe.
- Tear for Fears - i think that's what they are called. Chinese kin...fun to group with.
As far as action...tons of rad v raid action. Lately creeps tend to give up easily and disband after fraid with 18+ shows up. Used to be amazing RvR action...been lackluster as of late.
I would say this is now a Freep dominated server. Before recent updates easily the best RvR server in LOTRO. Creep leaders have all but disappeared...Mal/Evil still lead. Evil will hide in keeps and ruins PvP. Mal led raids are a bit better. Beatlejuice will lead raids that are pretty good. Lug(something) is another craid leader as of late.
Brandywine's best days are long past...but I still remember when it used to be amazing. Still large population. There are no rules...fraid will easily stop and kill greenie. Same with craid. Lotta feuds, lotta hate, lotta fun still...but not what it used to be.
Diablo 3 > lotro
My kin is dead atm
Freepside is too easy RvR, Creepside is hopeless if the freeps have any sort or brains/class make-up
The lag and bugs are really fun
1v1s are more class/luck/go easy on him hes a reaver based than i have seen in my time of playing
Small group action is great...but when the hell do you actually find a good 6v6 lol
Safe to say over half of what were the main raid leaders have left in the last few months, probably half of the vets in this game as well. Transfers like it though, cause their servers were probably #### to begin with so this is still an upgrade.
Pve makes me want cry now
The forums for this game are better than the game itself atm which is the sad thing (keep it up guys you make me smile)
I have a lifetime so if this game gets fun again maybe I'll come back, can't get rid of me that easy
Freepside is too easy RvR, Creepside is hopeless if the freeps have any sort or brains/class make-up
yeah I'm like nearly 100% sure that isn't new.
"Because I'm sane, and I know I am because I'm constantly thinking 'don't be crazy' to myself. Crazy people don't do that because crazy people don't worry about becoming crazy"
Yup you're right, just took alot more effort and teamwork and the fights were longer/better
Longer doesn't mean better, it they doubled the strength of current audacity it would still be incredibly Imbalanced. I'm at more of an advantage now than I was pre-audacity when I only had to worry about Isengard gear. The amount of teamwork required never changed either, unless you count effort towards class roles in which case people don't suddenly suck less because it's harder, lol.
"Because I'm sane, and I know I am because I'm constantly thinking 'don't be crazy' to myself. Crazy people don't do that because crazy people don't worry about becoming crazy"
Longer doesn't mean better, it they doubled the strength of current audacity it would still be incredibly Imbalanced. I'm at more of an advantage now than I was pre-audacity when I only had to worry about Isengard gear. The amount of teamwork required never changed either, unless you count effort towards class roles in which case people don't suddenly suck less because it's harder, lol.
Ha, freep transfer thinks more audacity = longer fights.
Really though, that makes me feel a bit sad for all you post-RoI transfer freeps. They'll never get to experience the great times we all had with the 30+ minute RvR fights pre-RoI.
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