When you are unable to distinguish the game from reality, are making comments to people that are so vulgar and disgusting, you use words like hate when describing people from the game. I think it may be time to step back and have a look at things.
Is the entire freep population here so easily trolled? Everything I do and say is all part of the game, I thought for sure some people knew that, but now I am starting to wonder. One person last night was so deeply effected by me I did not know if I should be proud or upset. (I was proud) That being said, think I'm gonna take a break for a bit, maybe some of you will get your faculties in line.
It's still a game guys.
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"The freeps largeness disappears when they see Plok's largeness"
When you are unable to distinguish the game from reality, are making comments to people that are so vulgar and disgusting, you use words like hate when describing people from the game. I think it may be time to step back and have a look at things.
Is the entire freep population here so easily trolled? Everything I do and say is all part of the game, I thought for sure some people knew that, but now I am starting to wonder. One person last night was so deeply effected by me I did not know if I should be proud or upset. (I was proud) That being said, think I'm gonna take a break for a bit, maybe some of you will get your faculties in line.
It's still a game guys.
It's a game, but harrassment is real. And some of us have a VERY low tolerance for it after 5 years of off and on issues.
I understand your point. But there have been some very real issues on this server in the past. Very real.
So it's not always just someone being over sensitive.
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You will find that people on these forums, and in-game, are very inexperienced on teh internets, and have next to no skin, as it were. Even the slightest words are enough to send them into a tizzy.
I mean, you send them over to 4chan, reddit, SOT, or any of the huge communities that are moderated differently, and they would last about 30 seconds.
LOL, i feel bad for people who get trolled so hard, and take everything that happens in this game to heart. Seriously if you want to play a game with loads of people with different personalities and playstyles, this is your game, but if you want everything to be your way, then run some raids on pve sides and kill saruman for fun.
You will find that people on these forums, and in-game, are very inexperienced on teh internets, and have next to no skin, as it were. Even the slightest words are enough to send them into a tizzy.
I mean, you send them over to 4chan, reddit, SOT, or any of the huge communities that are moderated differently, and they would last about 30 seconds.
You really think navigating 4chan a lot makes you have a tougher skin? All it does is make you like this:
Being experienced on the internet, in this humble elf's opinion, is not flopping over to Creep/Freep OOC and trolling. But thats just me. Being experienced on the internet suggests a perhaps overly accepting mindset. If anything, it shows inexperience on the internet to troll people. Further, it is n00bish to assume one side of a PvP game is better than the other. Its just amateur and stuck in a mindset of absolutes, and that what I do must be the best thing.
Bid them achieve me and then sell my bones.
-Henry V
A wise man once told me that if people are talking about you behind your back, then at least you are someone worth being talked about.
Plok, Landroval PVP is fun because of people like you, you make the game interesting and challenging. All the hate should be worn like a badge of honor. Tarbosh took the same heat when he and the White Hand were ripping it up and countless other players (both Freepside and Creepside).
Log back in mang and bring the noise!
- Needle
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The freeps have what they want man, unmolested ezmode farming of creeps. That is precisely what they want. So there is no point. I will continue to work on ideas and strats for GW2. No sense in putting in any energy here.
"The freeps largeness disappears when they see Plok's largeness"
The freeps have what they want man, unmolested ezmode farming of creeps. That is precisely what they want. So there is no point. I will continue to work on ideas and strats for GW2. No sense in putting in any energy here.
Tell us why you ever started playing a creep again?
The freeps have what they want man, unmolested ezmode farming of creeps. That is precisely what they want. So there is no point. I will continue to work on ideas and strats for GW2. No sense in putting in any energy here.
The freeps haven't been able to mount an effective open raid against organized Creep resistance in over three years. Instead they turn to personal attacks and browbeating. They are fine running around against unorganized groups of creeps, but nothing more.
Apparently you were able to cause them some issues
The freeps haven't been able to mount an effective open raid against organized Creep resistance in over three years. Instead they turn to personal attacks and browbeating. They are fine running around against unorganized groups of creeps, but nothing more.
Apparently you were able to cause them some issues
Well done!
At least you two have something in common...zerg the map with superior numbers, then log when there is any resistance. Personally, If I had a choice of zerg architects, my favorite was Maggotstew. It's like he invented everything the creep raids do today.
At least you two have something in common...zerg the map with superior numbers, then log when there is any resistance. Personally, If I had a choice of zerg architects, my favorite was Maggotstew. It's like he invented everything the creep raids do today.
There you go living the myth again. That is what I'm referring to. People like you choose to make their own reality rather than accepting THE reality.
The problem with people like you telling stories is there are to many witnesses to the actual fact. To many people from my tribe, from freepside, and other creeps that ran with us on a regular basis can attest to the fact that what you are saying here is just plain wrong.
But that is just how some of you good Landy folks roll
There you go living the myth again. That is what I'm referring to. People like you choose to make their own reality rather than accepting THE reality.
The problem with people like you telling stories is there are to many witnesses to the actual fact. To many people from my tribe, from freepside, and other creeps that ran with us on a regular basis can attest to the fact that what you are saying here is just plain wrong.
But that is just how some of you good Landy folks roll
This button pushing thing is easy with you.
I'm sorry, did I say log..I should have said stand in grams. Whatever you guys did, I've been in the Moors long enough to see too many coincidental mass exoduses from the Moors after your free reign zerg started getting whipped. Where do you go? Why do we get the pop buff and you guys suddenly dissappear? Please explain...if you have a decent enough reason, the idea of this happening may go away.
There you go living the myth again. That is what I'm referring to. People like you choose to make their own reality rather than accepting THE reality.
The problem with people like you telling stories is there are to many witnesses to the actual fact. To many people from my tribe, from freepside, and other creeps that ran with us on a regular basis can attest to the fact that what you are saying here is just plain wrong.
But that is just how some of you good Landy folks roll
Facts escape many. Especially 20% gankers like him. Half his ranks are probably from ganking afks in keeps.
"The freeps largeness disappears when they see Plok's largeness"
I'm sorry, did I say log..I should have said stand in grams. Whatever you guys did, I've been in the Moors long enough to see too many coincidental mass exoduses from the Moors after your free reign zerg started getting whipped. Where do you go? Why do we get the pop buff and you guys suddenly dissappear? Please explain...if you have a decent enough reason, the idea of this happening may go away.
None of this ever happened. You have no clue what you are talking about.
Funny enough, Maggotstew would be one of the first to tell you your wrong.
I'm sorry, did I say log..I should have said stand in grams. Whatever you guys did, I've been in the Moors long enough to see too many coincidental mass exoduses from the Moors after your free reign zerg started getting whipped. Where do you go? Why do we get the pop buff and you guys suddenly dissappear? Please explain...if you have a decent enough reason, the idea of this happening may go away.
I cannot speak for others Alaster. But for me, when the freeps have the pop buff many times I will log. There is no reason to keep throwing higher numbers at a lessened force of the foe. It always seems more like punishment then fighting.
If this is not what you are meaning, then perhaps I did not fully understand your post.
White Hand used to hold nights when their tribe would have a great presence in the moors. This was not an unusual thing seeing that many other tribes and kinships did and still do the same. I think what made WH seem like even more then they were numbers wise at the time was the effectiveness with which they moved on the map. I do not think many in the moors will deny that WH had a fully cohesive unit and good leadership. Their tactics were some of the best I have ever seen.
I know that when it was them and the regular Creep raid out things seemed hellish at times. But they fought for pretty much a set time each week, and did not log out due to any sudden changes in freep numbers but because the time they had allotted for the raid came to an end. It was scheduled tribe time.
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Yes a joke based on myths created by you and your friends lol...
This is the first time I've mentioned this. What friends do you speak of? I talk to 4 people in the moors regularly, and they're all burgs, and could care less about your activities. Anything else you'd like to stray to instead of the truth? Defeat > *poof* gone > pop buff.
None of this ever happened. You have no clue what you are talking about.
Funny enough, Maggotstew would be one of the first to tell you your wrong.
Actually I find that he's right, just has the sides mixed up, when TWH was out in force it was the freeps that disappeared.
The real gem here is that creep raid leaders that wipe more times than won are considered "good" while as the ones that played smart and chose favorable engages are considered "bad". You should at least be honest and say your favorite raid leaders were the ones that fed you easy points.
As for TWH running from fights... right before they left were the best RvR fights of ROI, and some say the best RvR fights since SoA.
Of course half of the freep raid was one kin all in vent, so I guess Tarbosh's point about an effective open raid still stands.
Actually I find that he's right, just has the sides mixed up, when TWH was out in force it was the freeps that disappeared.
The real gem here is that creep raid leaders that wipe more times than won are considered "good" while as the ones that played smart and chose favorable engages are considered "bad". You should at least be honest and say your favorite raid leaders were the ones that fed you easy points.
As for TWH running from fights... right before they left were the best RvR fights of ROI, and some say the best RvR fights since SoA.
Of course half of the freep raid was one kin all in vent, so I guess Tarbosh's point about an effective open raid still stands.
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The real gem here is that creep raid leaders that wipe more times than won are considered "good" while as the ones that played smart and chose favorable engages are considered "bad". You should at least be honest and say your favorite raid leaders were the ones that fed you easy points.
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One of the very things they did not like about me leading. Use strategy, they hate you. Mindlessly throw your raid into unbeatable numbers and you are a great leader. Just gems.
"The freeps largeness disappears when they see Plok's largeness"
The real gem here is that creep raid leaders that wipe more times than won are considered "good" while as the ones that played smart and chose favorable engages are considered "bad". You should at least be honest and say your favorite raid leaders were the ones that fed you easy points.
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One of the very things they did not like about me leading. Use strategy, they hate you. Mindlessly throw your raid into unbeatable numbers and you are a great leader. Just gems.
I think you got it wrong. I don't think people hate your play style, it's your mouth when you open it. Then, based on what you say, they hate on your game to make you feel bad. Contrary to all my trolling you, I actually have fun when your out. Keeps me on my toes.
The real gem here is that creep raid leaders that wipe more times than won are considered "good" while as the ones that played smart and chose favorable engages are considered "bad". You should at least be honest and say your favorite raid leaders were the ones that fed you easy points.
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One of the very things they did not like about me leading. Use strategy, they hate you. Mindlessly throw your raid into unbeatable numbers and you are a great leader. Just gems.
You know the irony of this? When we were a very young tribe and our higher ranked players were in the 4 - 5 range, we would attack a freep raid head on. We would get kills, drag it out as long as possible, but usually had to withdraw or were wiped.
I was often told back in those days "we love when TWH is out, you guys are so aggressive, keep it up!".
As we ranked up and got better, the team gelled together, we started wiping the open freep raid with impunity. The very same people that used to pat us on the back for being so aggressive suddenly started finding everything wrong with us lol...
But there was never any standing around grams, manipulating pop buffs, logging after "getting whipped" or anything of the sort. We had our tribe raids on certain nights for certain times and we got what we got during that time. There was never anything more to it than that.
The real gem here is that creep raid leaders that wipe more times than won are considered "good" while as the ones that played smart and chose favorable engages are considered "bad". You should at least be honest and say your favorite raid leaders were the ones that fed you easy points.
One of the very things they did not like about me leading. Use strategy, they hate you. Mindlessly throw your raid into unbeatable numbers and you are a great leader. Just gems.
HA That's so true.
I don't like to judge people by playing opposite them, I find that playing WITH them is the best way to understand them, their intentions, their reasoning.
I spent years playing freepside exclusively and I'd heard every accusation you can imagine thrown at creepside from not playing nicely to harrassment to cheating. When I started playing creepside myself, I saw the truth. I'll use TWH as an example because I joined them my last year of playing LoTRO. Tribe nights were planned DAYS in advance, and the raids never broke up because of anything the freeps did, it was always at a specific time because people had to work in the morning. And Alaster, when you say "TWH" logged what you really mean is that Tarbosh logged out, don't you? Because those of us in the tribe who don't live on the east coast often stuck around and played for another hour or two AFTER the scheduled tribe nights ended. Don't you dare say the whole tribe disappeared because a bunch of us were out there dying over and over to the freep numbers that always strangely ballooned after a tribe night. It's hilarious to me that "TWH" has become this mythical entity---it was just a bunch of friends playing together and having a good time whether they won or lost. They won most of the time BECAUSE THEY WERE A BUNCH OF FRIENDS PLAYING TOGETHER. We listened to Tarbosh and worked well together because we enjoyed being out there. It had been years since I'd seen a freep raid that was able to muster up that kind of coordination and capability.
For some reason certain people always feel the need to take groups that work well together as a personal affront. If they can't beat you, they'll call you dishonorable, call you a cheater, sling mud on your playstyle, reinvent history....whatever it takes to make themselves feel better.
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People like yourself in the forum is part of the problem.
"The freeps largeness disappears when they see Plok's largeness"
Since it's really just the three of you, couldn't you just do all this reminiscing in PMs? Well Tarbosh and Alaster can, the other dude can sit an listen to the tall tales between you.
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Ita dicimus omnes
Since it's really just the three of you, couldn't you just do all this reminiscing in PMs? Well Tarbosh and Alaster can, the other dude can sit an listen to the tall tales between you.
Why don't you just hit the report button, that is your usual play...
With the whole white hand discussion, I remember rage logging every once and awhile on "their nights". But the only reason I had to rage log was lack of resistance.
Just think if Isildur rage logged after his pops got ganked. I think its totally fine for a kin/tribe to do whatever they please. Its the other guy's job to stop them from having fun, and rain on their parade. Isn't that the fun part of it?
Personally, I never saw "dishonorable" tactics from them, it was just us getting owned because people avoided the moors on those nights. Also, it seems rather dubious that on vent they decided "ok we lost one battle everyone log off." Seems mythical.
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Bid them achieve me and then sell my bones.
-Henry V