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    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone.


    When can I go to Bree and gank freeps? ^^^


    HH is officially renamed P2W village.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone. I see a clear link between extensive p2w usage and griefing new players. A new creep has no other way of ranking, he can't kill anyone at all, he can't go elsewhere. I'm not saying you should never kill a new creep, but I see there's a link between p2w and killing new guys repeatedly.



    (and no, don't even try to compare a low level freep with a low rank creep. Low level freeps got 99 other regions to go to and are not meant to pvp at low level, low rank creeps got no where to go and HAVE TO be in EM)


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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone.


    When can I go to Bree and gank freeps? ^^^


    HH is officially renamed P2W village.

    So are we now expected to class HH as a Freep no-go zone, certainly as soon as you declare Grothum as a no go zone for Creeps, Freeps need commendations as well, and therefore need to do quests.

    I dont P2W but i`ve killed and been killed in HH, get off your high horse, as you are so often reminding everyone else, its a PvP zone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone.


    When can I go to Bree and gank freeps? ^^^


    HH is officially renamed P2W village.
    Awwwww did you lose 300 rating? :'(


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    Oh it's a PVP zone indeed, cheers Reap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-n-1-p-3-s View Post
    Oh it's a PVP zone indeed, cheers Reap.

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    ???????? not sure what your getting at there


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    Isn't the only motive in EM to kill opposition players? Wherever they are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reapor View Post
    ???????? not sure what your getting at there
    Was tying it as you replied, took the words out of my mouth. The Irony Points to the rager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone.


    When can I go to Bree and gank freeps? ^^^


    HH is officially renamed P2W village.
    hah hahahaha haha lol

    have to plant a Blooddrunk flag in HH then, and buy a new kinhouse there, can't keep our kinhouse in Bree if there's a P2W village around!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothriel View Post
    Awwwww did you lose 300 rating? :'(
    Oh, I don't die to low lifes.



    Yes, it is a pvp zone but most freeps seem to respect that new creeps have to quest to rank at all. That doesn't mean you shouldn't kill greenies, kill greenies, by all means, just don't grief them, they might never return. A freep can go to pve land, get gear, level up and come back to kill you. A creep is pretty much cut off from the game if he's griefed.
    This alone isn't that bad, I camp, you camp, we all camp, but I find it interesting to see that the greenie hunters are usually heavy p2w users, indicating a certain "bad" character based on the correlation here. Heavy p2w users seem to display a low moral overall, the correlation is astonishing. (well, it's not really astonishing)


    Anyways, p2w on, guys. It tells me a great deal about many of you. (not you, timo)



    Edit'ish: P2w on creep and freep side IS different in this. On freep side, you pay to boost an already strong character. On creep side, p2w is often used to compensate for a weak character. The motives are different, thereby my post goes only for freeps.

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    Freeps camp questers in HH. So what? Creeps camp questers in Grothum. I was camping Grothum once and Stoff was there too. So can't blame people for camping HH

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone.


    When can I go to Bree and gank freeps? ^^^


    HH is officially renamed P2W village.
    Nobody's forcing creeps to run in a straight line from spaw....I mean quest in HH, there are plenty of other routes out of sp...I mean places to quest, if they choose to quest in HH it's their own fault if they get spawn camp...DAMNIT! killed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinThePurple View Post
    Nobody's forcing creeps to run in a straight line from spaw....I mean quest in HH, there are plenty of other routes out of sp...I mean places to quest, if they choose to quest in HH it's their own fault if they get spawn camp...DAMNIT! killed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    The Hive Mind says one thing and it's best illustrated like this:

    I got a brand new combine 'arvester and I'll give you the key *dances away*

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinThePurple View Post
    I got a brand new combine 'arvester and I'll give you the key *dances away*
    Mwuahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone.


    When can I go to Bree and gank freeps? ^^^


    HH is officially renamed P2W village.
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    The Hive Mind says one thing and it's best illustrated like this:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Reapor View Post
    I dont P2W
    I might be wrong, but didn't you say that using store-skills is p2w? What about that fall-injury-thingy?

    No hard feelings anyway

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    Stoff, freeps killing creeps questing in HH is annoying, yes. But it is no different than when a freep is spotted in Grothum and the entireity of creep OOC is alerted and starts mapping to kill that freep. Even if said freep is a level 65 ungeared inexperienced quester, creeps will kill them nonetheless. Freeps have the right to do the same in HH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squelcher View Post
    Stoff, freeps killing creeps questing in HH is annoying, yes. But it is no different than when a freep is spotted in Grothum and the entireity of creep OOC is alerted and starts mapping to kill that freep. Even if said freep is a level 65 ungeared inexperienced quester, creeps will kill them nonetheless. Freeps have the right to do the same in HH.
    Well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricen View Post
    Well said
    I hate two of the above posters (if they're clever they can guess if they're the ones) as much as Stoff does, but he is downright wrong in this scenario.
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    Anyone wanna get some sparring at lc hs going? Reply here so I know someone's coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    The Hive Mind says one thing and it's best illustrated like this:

    I do not understand this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Retarius View Post
    ^ That i do understand, Epic trolling 9/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranroth View Post
    I might be wrong, but didn't you say that using store-skills is p2w? What about that fall-injury-thingy?

    No hard feelings anyway
    I was under the impression that the fall immunity wasn`t P2W, under Stoff P2W Rule 6a, it just levels the playing field, not that I care who does or dosn`t use the Store, never had a problem with it.

    If me using this makes me a Store &&&&&, then so be it, I`ve been called worse

    Its the double standards I dont like, a Store User calling someone who uses the Store names, some ppl justify use of the Store for themselves by various dubious reasons, and then slag other ppl off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reapor View Post
    I was under the impression that the fall immunity wasn`t P2W, under Stoff P2W Rule 6a, it just levels the playing field, not that I care who does or dosn`t use the Store, never had a problem with it.

    If me using this makes me a Store &&&&&, then so be it, I`ve been called worse

    Its the double standards I dont like, a Store User calling someone who uses the Store names, some ppl justify use of the Store for themselves by various dubious reasons, and then slag other ppl off.

    Respect in Lug Mokrum, firdt time I was surprised you attacked, second time I got lucky, I was tabbed reading your post, got away on 270 Health
    Actually I tabbed to attack timo when I noticed you was afk... Ofc way too late (or one attack too early :P) lol xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    HH is officially the place to be for freeps with cheezy motives. Rks, burgs and champs using p2w all gather to gank questing creeps who got no other way of ranking because they can't kill anyone.


    When can I go to Bree and gank freeps? ^^^


    HH is officially renamed P2W village.
    Has this been edited by Turbine ? There appears to have been a reference to two burgs and a RK ?

    I Regularly get jumped in Grothum , irritating but I take it as an occupational hazard . I get away 99 % of the time except when 3 high rank Wargs think it's skill to track me and kill me , even then they fail most of the time . It's a joke really but hey as Forest said "it happens".

    There are a few creeps I wouldn't attack in HH as they showed me the same leniency in Grothum ( two Wargs) and one Reaver that I have nothing but respect for . The rest are just fair game sorry but that's the nature of the beast .

    It's not P2W either ( whatever that nonsense means)

    Isn't a so called "Dream Teams" attempt to gank a solo burg as equally as offensive as a burgs kill of creeps farming at HH ?

    I don't know who the burgs were and frankly I don't care ( well done guys anyway) but lets get real here

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    Stoff vs Hivemind. This is going to be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jureon View Post

    Stoff vs Hivemind. This is going to be interesting.
    Trying to get your own thread closed? ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranroth View Post
    Trying to get your own thread closed? ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellithiel View Post



    ^ That i do understand, Epic trolling 9/10
    You give THAT 9/10? I've been trying too hard all these years if that's a 9/10.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranroth View Post
    Trying to get your own thread closed? ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirn View Post
    when 3 high rank Wargs think it's skill to track me and kill me
    It is a skill actually. We waste a slot in our trait lines to be able to track stealthed targets in a (lol) 90m range. Thats different then spaming store trackers like it was a skill.. On the move.. While mounted.. twice our range.. no trait slots required.. for a non-tracking class :P
    Just saying don't be to hasty talking about "skills". Also, do you think wargs get less tracked then burgs?
    Don't take everything so personal all the time mate.

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    What are we watching?

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    Aquatiax (2m 14.2s); Mokrum - Dmg: 55,771; DPS: 415.7 ... Ran out if power... QQ
    Fun fight tho ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranroth View Post
    Aquatiax (2m 14.2s); Mokrum - Dmg: 55,771; DPS: 415.7 ... Ran out if power... QQ
    Fun fight tho ^^
    Sorry man, did try to navigate through the bears without pulling any, but trying to fend you off and do that was a challenge in itself ^^
    Good fight indeed, better luck next time

    Oh, just saw, dam ninja bear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-n-1-p-3-s View Post
    Oh, just saw, dam ninja bear!
    Lol, that's what you get from running to NPCs

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    This sums up my attitude to this discussion nicely:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqfqV...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranroth View Post
    Lol, that's what you get from running to NPCs
    Indeed, though 1v1 I will sport any1, but with dogs attacking I have to back up, easier to keep you frontal and while your attacking me and trying for increased damage output, it makes it easier.

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    Thanks to all involved for a fairly decent night in the Moors.
    Curse you, Wiley, for getting me to lead though.

    Also, at the rest of the mindless dribble posted in the past 20 or so pages. Can't we just agree we're all jerks?
    I can't be far off the truth with that statement.
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