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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirn View Post
    Yeah well said .

    However may I suggest an event where BD take on creep side and the winner takes all ? Get rid of this aggression and move on . There should be no rules just plain old psycho stuff .

    Or you can do your Archilles v Hector stuff , produce your best and have a 1 v 1 .

    You could even charge for this and have some independent observers , us burgs would be happy to escort survivors to sanctuary ......can't trust Wargs .... Small burg handling fee charged .

    Or just keep stoning each other

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    Merely trying to cast some light hearted humour to a daft situation " utterly mad" .
    Let me just completely ransack my parents' bank accounts to pay for all the store pots that'll be needed to put me on their level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jureon View Post
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    My that was some juicey last few pages i just read. So much banter, so much bickering. I like it.

    Narg and the rest of the Blooddrunk's just ignore them, they hate you because your beautiful and they are Jelous of your mad Skillz.

    Few years back it was all against The Last Warders, Now theres a new dangerous kin on the scene they are attacking Blooddrunk. We all know if they havent got someone, something to moan or scream about then something is wrong. By next year they will have moved on to something or someone else. Either that or the whole creep population will have killed each other because they all think everyone else is a spy out to leak important warfare tactics to the freepside.

    As for OOC chats.

    I personally think boils down to who's online at the time you ask for help. There is some nice, friendly people out there who dont mind sharing the location of the action, giving abit of advice when needed or throwning you a invite when all you have done is ask where the fight is.

    Been a few occations on both sides iv said "Hey guys any action" and iv never got a reply. Then you will see someone talk on OOC so you ask again "Hey guys any action" And you get ignored, only to find out that theres a small group of friends killing everything. So i just put it down to they dont want to share any info so they can have all the Inf/Ren for themselves. But then as soon as Poo hits the fan the OOC comes alive all of a sudden.

    There is alot of selfishness in this game, there always has been and always will be. Probably not just this game but this is the only one iv spent so much time and effort on to really notice. People of both sides are only after one thing, and thats there own personal development. They will use others to advance, without even a second thought of offering to help others.

    I was going to make a big comment on the store pot/shop disscussion but to be totally honest theres not much point in it anymore. Anyone who has commented, moaned, verbal diarrhea'd there soul out over this topic is going to be well and truly cemented into what they believe. So ill leave you with this.

    Get a grip and if you cant get a tight enough grip, get even. And by that i mean stop been a drama queen and just bloody spend some of your turbine points to level the playing field. Seriously what are you actually saving them for?

    I will ask this though.

    For all those that have expressed a deep hatred for the store and the people who use it. Do you also speak and treat the fellows you play along who.. Lets say, Bought a higher ranked skill than they should be entitled too?

    Pots/Skills/Hamburgers/Scrolls/Traits/Corruptions all from the store, all equal Paid items.

    True or False?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    My that was some juicey last few pages i just read. So much banter, so much bickering. I like it.

    Narg and the rest of the Blooddrunk's just ignore them, they hate you because your beautiful and they are Jelous of your mad Skillz.

    Few years back it was all against The Last Warders, Now theres a new dangerous kin on the scene they are attacking Blooddrunk. We all know if they havent got someone, something to moan or scream about then something is wrong. By next year they will have moved on to something or someone else. Either that or the whole creep population will have killed each other because they all think everyone else is a spy out to leak important warfare tactics to the freepside.

    As for OOC chats.

    I personally think boils down to who's online at the time you ask for help. There is some nice, friendly people out there who dont mind sharing the location of the action, giving abit of advice when needed or throwning you a invite when all you have done is ask where the fight is.

    Been a few occations on both sides iv said "Hey guys any action" and iv never got a reply. Then you will see someone talk on OOC so you ask again "Hey guys any action" And you get ignored, only to find out that theres a small group of friends killing everything. So i just put it down to they dont want to share any info so they can have all the Inf/Ren for themselves. But then as soon as Poo hits the fan the OOC comes alive all of a sudden.

    There is alot of selfishness in this game, there always has been and always will be. Probably not just this game but this is the only one iv spent so much time and effort on to really notice. People of both sides are only after one thing, and thats there own personal development. They will use others to advance, without even a second thought of offering to help others.

    I was going to make a big comment on the store pot/shop disscussion but to be totally honest theres not much point in it anymore. Anyone who has commented, moaned, verbal diarrhea'd there soul out over this topic is going to be well and truly cemented into what they believe. So ill leave you with this.

    Get a grip and if you cant get a tight enough grip, get even. And by that i mean stop been a drama queen and just bloody spend some of your turbine points to level the playing field. Seriously what are you actually saving them for?

    I will ask this though.

    For all those that have expressed a deep hatred for the store and the people who use it. Do you also speak and treat the fellows you play along who.. Lets say, Bought a higher ranked skill than they should be entitled too?

    Pots/Skills/Hamburgers/Scrolls/Traits/Corruptions all from the store, all equal Paid items.

    True or False?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squelcher View Post
    Ludo I think you know me well enough to know that I do not irrationally hate people for no reason.
    Oh dude it wasnt directed at you personally.

    In my moment of madness I was trying to reach out to the whole community.
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    Yay a long post that lacks rant...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    My that was some juicey last few pages i just read. So much banter, so much bickering. I like it.
    Amusing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    Narg and the rest of the Blooddrunk's just ignore them, they hate you because your beautiful and they are Jelous of your mad Skillz.
    Amusing

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    Few years back it was all against The Last Warders, Now theres a new dangerous kin on the scene they are attacking Blooddrunk. We all know if they havent got someone, something to moan or scream about then something is wrong. By next year they will have moved on to something or someone else. Either that or the whole creep population will have killed each other because they all think everyone else is a spy out to leak important warfare tactics to the freepside.
    Both amusing and sweeping.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    As for OOC chats.

    I personally think boils down to who's online at the time you ask for help. There is some nice, friendly people out there who dont mind sharing the location of the action, giving abit of advice when needed or throwning you a invite when all you have done is ask where the fight is.
    True.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    Been a few occations on both sides iv said "Hey guys any action" and iv never got a reply. Then you will see someone talk on OOC so you ask again "Hey guys any action" And you get ignored, only to find out that theres a small group of friends killing everything. So i just put it down to they dont want to share any info so they can have all the Inf/Ren for themselves. But then as soon as Poo hits the fan the OOC comes alive all of a sudden.
    Half true, half supposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    There is alot of selfishness in this game, there always has been and always will be. Probably not just this game but this is the only one iv spent so much time and effort on to really notice.
    True.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    People of both sides are only after one thing, and thats there own personal development. They will use others to advance, without even a second thought of offering to help others.
    Sweeping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    I was going to make a big comment on the store pot/shop disscussion but to be totally honest theres not much point in it anymore. Anyone who has commented, moaned, verbal diarrhea'd there soul out over this topic is going to be well and truly cemented into what they believe. So ill leave you with this.
    True.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    Get a grip and if you cant get a tight enough grip, get even. And by that i mean stop been a drama queen and just bloody spend some of your turbine points to level the playing field. Seriously what are you actually saving them for?
    Over simplified and sweeping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    I will ask this though.

    For all those that have expressed a deep hatred for the store and the people who use it. Do you also speak and treat the fellows you play along who.. Lets say, Bought a higher ranked skill than they should be entitled too?

    Pots/Skills/Hamburgers/Scrolls/Traits/Corruptions all from the store, all equal Paid items.
    Sweeping and oversimplified.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    True or False?
    Your options of black or white answers load the statements you have made with hilarious gravitas.

    Thanks for breaking up the rattleshaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    My that was some juicey last few pages i just read. So much banter, so much bickering. I like it.

    Narg and the rest of the Blooddrunk's just ignore them, they hate you because your beautiful and they are Jelous of your mad Skillz.

    Few years back it was all against The Last Warders, Now theres a new dangerous kin on the scene they are attacking Blooddrunk. We all know if they havent got someone, something to moan or scream about then something is wrong. By next year they will have moved on to something or someone else. Either that or the whole creep population will have killed each other because they all think everyone else is a spy out to leak important warfare tactics to the freepside.

    As for OOC chats.

    I personally think boils down to who's online at the time you ask for help. There is some nice, friendly people out there who dont mind sharing the location of the action, giving abit of advice when needed or throwning you a invite when all you have done is ask where the fight is.

    Been a few occations on both sides iv said "Hey guys any action" and iv never got a reply. Then you will see someone talk on OOC so you ask again "Hey guys any action" And you get ignored, only to find out that theres a small group of friends killing everything. So i just put it down to they dont want to share any info so they can have all the Inf/Ren for themselves. But then as soon as Poo hits the fan the OOC comes alive all of a sudden.

    There is alot of selfishness in this game, there always has been and always will be. Probably not just this game but this is the only one iv spent so much time and effort on to really notice. People of both sides are only after one thing, and thats there own personal development. They will use others to advance, without even a second thought of offering to help others.

    I was going to make a big comment on the store pot/shop disscussion but to be totally honest theres not much point in it anymore. Anyone who has commented, moaned, verbal diarrhea'd there soul out over this topic is going to be well and truly cemented into what they believe. So ill leave you with this.

    Get a grip and if you cant get a tight enough grip, get even. And by that i mean stop been a drama queen and just bloody spend some of your turbine points to level the playing field. Seriously what are you actually saving them for?

    I will ask this though.

    For all those that have expressed a deep hatred for the store and the people who use it. Do you also speak and treat the fellows you play along who.. Lets say, Bought a higher ranked skill than they should be entitled too?

    Pots/Skills/Hamburgers/Scrolls/Traits/Corruptions all from the store, all equal Paid items.

    True or False?

    I agree with you on most of your post Ludo, but you weren't there when a kin I will not name, decided to ruin a peaceevent sanctioned by both creep and freep. That, and their reasons for doing it, made me lose most of the respect I had for them. I'm not sure that I in all my years of playing this game have seen more childish behaviour...

    But unlike others I've just decided to ignore them....

    The rest of your post I agree with ;-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldwiley View Post
    Yay a long post that lacks rant...


    Amusing.


    Amusing


    Both amusing and sweeping.



    True.



    Half true, half supposition.


    True.


    Sweeping.


    True.


    Over simplified and sweeping.


    Sweeping and oversimplified.


    Your options of black or white answers load the statements you have made with hilarious gravitas.

    Thanks for breaking up the rattleshaking.
    Bloody hell Iv actually made a post that someone agree's too and makes them happy at the same time. Best have a lay down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squelcher View Post
    Ludo I think you know me well enough to know that I do not irrationally hate people for no reason.
    Nah, you just hate people for irrational reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    Get a grip and if you cant get a tight enough grip, get even. And by that i mean stop been a drama queen and just bloody spend some of your turbine points to level the playing field. Seriously what are you actually saving them for?
    Not all can use p2w, Ludo, and that's a big problem. Not to mention we shouldn't have to use p2w because we've already paid for the game and many still pay.



    Creep ooc is a very talkative and friendly ooc. As a long term creep player, I see no changes over the years other than more f2p kiddies spamming. Creep ooc is from my experience a much more active ooc than the one on freep side but I don't hang around there. Also a very friendly ooc and Reapor seems extremely negative to everything creep. He thinks he is hated, which he isn't.


    Also, LW has nothing to do with that other kin. LW weren't blatant exploiters and cheaters, the kin just contained some unfriendly, rude people. This new kin has brought it on themselves, no one brought it on them. I only started disliking that new kin when I saw it gathered the worst exploiters and cheaters in the game, and seemed to praise them. Their leader was a good guy but something happened and Mr. Hyde came out, along with the Tea Party Movement( sick opinions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haue View Post
    I agree with you on most of your post Ludo, but you weren't there when a kin I will not name, decided to ruin a peaceevent sanctioned by both creep and freep.
    I am a freep and i did not sanction it and i know some other freeps from my kin that also did not sanction a "pretty picture event"


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    Quote Originally Posted by stoffi View Post
    Not all can use p2w, Ludo, and that's a big problem. Not to mention we shouldn't have to use p2w because we've already paid for the game and many still pay.



    Creep ooc is a very talkative and friendly ooc. As a long term creep player, I see no changes over the years other than more f2p kiddies spamming. Creep ooc is from my experience a much more active ooc than the one on freep side but I don't hang around there. Also a very friendly ooc and Reapor seems extremely negative to everything creep. He thinks he is hated, which he isn't.


    Also, LW has nothing to do with that other kin. LW weren't blatant exploiters and cheaters, the kin just contained some unfriendly, rude people. This new kin has brought it on themselves, no one brought it on them. I only started disliking that new kin when I saw it gathered the worst exploiters and cheaters in the game, and seemed to praise them. Their leader was a good guy but something happened and Mr. Hyde came out, along with the Tea Party Movement( sick opinions).
    I struggle to read your walls of text anymore although this is a shorter post than normal. Without reading this I can only assume we are being compared to Gaddafi ? or just Hitler this time, keeping it simple ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesar View Post
    I am a freep and i did not sanction it and i know some other freeps from my kin that also did not sanction a "pretty picture event"
    I was generalising..... But you and your kin that I will not name should have respected an event which were clearly respected by other players. If you had a problem with it you should just have stayed away for the time it was on, not ruining it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesar View Post
    I struggle to read your walls of text anymore although this is a shorter post than normal. Without reading this I can only assume we are being compared to Gaddafi ? or just Hitler this time, keeping it simple ?
    Finally you are admitting your level of brain ability....................... ...........simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesar View Post
    I am a freep and i did not sanction it and i know some other freeps from my kin that also did not sanction a "pretty picture event"
    Once again showing yourself and your kin up to be the people you are.

    Goodwork, keep shooting yourself in the foot, its keeping me amused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesar View Post
    I struggle to read
    I love this

    And btw. get your hobbit back in the game, I'm soon out of gold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesar View Post
    I am a freep and i did not sanction it and i know some other freeps from my kin that also did not sanction a "pretty picture event"
    I don't sanction spars and never particate in spars but I still respect that other players think differently about it.

    I hope you are aware of how you are portraying yourself here, I don't need to describe it to you. No one's doing it to you, you're doing it all by yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesar View Post
    i did not sanction it
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    The spies are everywhere i tell thee.. EVERYWHERE. o-0

    I wrote a message that was totally technical and encrypted in freep OOC when we was camping you at Lug spawn and it said something along the lines of.

    ?sciler eht gnikat ni su gninioj ycnaf enoyna seoD .stahc COO eht gnihctaw syps evah ew sa siht ekil gnipyt ma I
    A few people understood my message as i got replies. Admittedly most of them was LOL.

    But was we pulled up to the location hidden inside the cryptic message we was greeted by a few wargies. Then to follow the creep raid/group/posey..

    Me personally i loved it because i nearly escaped, love the chases .

    Shakesfist a RatCatcher and his turbo legs..

    So there you have it, both sides have spy's. Its not just the creeps that have them too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    The spies are everywhere i tell thee.. EVERYWHERE. o-0

    I wrote a message that was totally technical and encrypted in freep OOC when we was camping you at Lug spawn and it said something along the lines of.



    A few people understood my message as i got replies. Admittedly most of them was LOL.

    But was we pulled up to the location hidden inside the cryptic message we was greeted by a few wargies. Then to follow the creep raid/group/posey..

    Me personally i loved it because i nearly escaped, love the chases .

    Shakesfist a RatCatcher and his turbo legs..

    So there you have it, both sides have spy's. Its not just the creeps that have them too
    They exist on both sides, to be sure, but it is easier to spy on creepside because you can camp in Grams with a F2P account. That cannot be done on freepside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squelcher View Post
    They exist on both sides, to be sure, but it is easier to spy on creepside because you can camp in Grams with a F2P account. That cannot be done on freepside.
    This is sadly true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    My that was some juicey last few pages i just read. So much banter, so much bickering. I like it.

    Narg and the rest of the Blooddrunk's just ignore them, they hate you because your beautiful and they are Jelous of your mad Skillz.

    Few years back it was all against The Last Warders, Now theres a new dangerous kin on the scene they are attacking Blooddrunk. We all know if they havent got someone, something to moan or scream about then something is wrong. By next year they will have moved on to something or someone else. Either that or the whole creep population will have killed each other because they all think everyone else is a spy out to leak important warfare tactics to the freepside.

    As for OOC chats.

    I personally think boils down to who's online at the time you ask for help. There is some nice, friendly people out there who dont mind sharing the location of the action, giving abit of advice when needed or throwning you a invite when all you have done is ask where the fight is.

    Been a few occations on both sides iv said "Hey guys any action" and iv never got a reply. Then you will see someone talk on OOC so you ask again "Hey guys any action" And you get ignored, only to find out that theres a small group of friends killing everything. So i just put it down to they dont want to share any info so they can have all the Inf/Ren for themselves. But then as soon as Poo hits the fan the OOC comes alive all of a sudden.

    There is alot of selfishness in this game, there always has been and always will be. Probably not just this game but this is the only one iv spent so much time and effort on to really notice. People of both sides are only after one thing, and thats there own personal development. They will use others to advance, without even a second thought of offering to help others.

    I was going to make a big comment on the store pot/shop disscussion but to be totally honest theres not much point in it anymore. Anyone who has commented, moaned, verbal diarrhea'd there soul out over this topic is going to be well and truly cemented into what they believe. So ill leave you with this.

    Get a grip and if you cant get a tight enough grip, get even. And by that i mean stop been a drama queen and just bloody spend some of your turbine points to level the playing field. Seriously what are you actually saving them for?

    I will ask this though.

    For all those that have expressed a deep hatred for the store and the people who use it. Do you also speak and treat the fellows you play along who.. Lets say, Bought a higher ranked skill than they should be entitled too?

    Pots/Skills/Hamburgers/Scrolls/Traits/Corruptions all from the store, all equal Paid items.

    True or False?
    I dislike them for ruining the event, and attitude about it, thats all, everything else means nothing to me.

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    I think whatever reasons we may come with regarding freep/creep being overpowered, it shows that the highest creep is rank 13 and the highest freep rank 15 (and 14). From that and lower ranks I deduct that either creep is playing the wrong game, the game is imbalanced, freep is playing the wrong game or all 3. I personally think it's all 3. I don't mind being "underdog" and getting killed more, but something's gotta give to have a fun game.

    This imbalance has always been the case, but lately there seem to be some developments making it more imbalanced. What I see now I think is the sign of EM becoming possibly (half-) dead, for 3 reasons:
    1- level of raids
    2- GW2 pvp upcoming
    3- store

    First of all regarding the level of raids, apparently there is no replacement for Looptheloop which is a shame. he used to be able to take risks without excessive dying, and be successful in creative ways. Also, I'm sorry Short but you seem to be exactly the opposite of Loop and many creeps are disappointed with a kind of raidleading that is called "farming" by many of us. Also I see a lack in organizing on creepside and acknowledging what works best. If a freep doesn't go down, get those 3 or 4 blight defilers in your raid so you get it done.

    Then with GW2 pvp upcoming and with the pvmp in lotro being so imbalanced it seems to be hard deciding to stay in lotro even though you may have a high rank. Combined with the fact that creeps at some point would like to see something new. EM isn't that big and the content there never changed. Nevertheless I'm not saying you'll enjoy GW2 more, for all it matters you play both or keep active in Lotro. But what if it's empty?

    Thirdly I think the store is absolute bull. While i think that buying skills is fine, but consumables in my opinion are not done. There's simply no fun in having to chase someone for 3 minutes with an entire creepraid, and it's totally out of proportions. Admittedly these things don't happen that much, but when freeps are "farming" this is used excessively.

    To conclude? I think that EM is going to be in trouble. I have to say that I admire the high ranked creeps and freeps who are keeping the game up, because I get tired of it pretty fast .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    The spies are everywhere i tell thee.. EVERYWHERE. o-0

    I wrote a message that was totally technical and encrypted in freep OOC when we was camping you at Lug spawn and it said something along the lines of.



    A few people understood my message as i got replies. Admittedly most of them was LOL.

    But was we pulled up to the location hidden inside the cryptic message we was greeted by a few wargies. Then to follow the creep raid/group/posey..

    Me personally i loved it because i nearly escaped, love the chases .

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    So there you have it, both sides have spy's. Its not just the creeps that have them too
    The one where you attempted to kill the questing BA I was on vent with then proceeded to walk down to dg from the spot you'd known at least two wargs had been moments ago or was that another group? Either way amused me those sets of fights, even more so the response from ooc once it finally made it onto there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratcatcher-EU View Post
    The one where you attempted to kill the questing BA I was on vent with then proceeded to walk down to dg from the spot you'd known at least two wargs had been moments ago or was that another group? Either way amused me those sets of fights, even more so the response from ooc once it finally made it onto there.
    I dont recall seeing a ba at the time. We got to ramp just at enterance of dg and i was buffing us up when i spotted a warg think it was lakfang but could be wrong next min there was a few wargs. Was having a good little battle with you guys till i spun camera round ans saw a horde of creeps coming of the hill.. Should have heard us on vent, what a scream that was.. The wife was upstairs at time and come rushing down she thought i was been murdered for real lol

    Thought we had go away when we managed to get on our mounts but you did a grand job of dismounting us and keeping us slowed.. More like that please was brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    I dont recall seeing a ba at the time. We got to ramp just at enterance of dg and i was buffing us up when i spotted a warg think it was lakfang but could be wrong next min there was a few wargs. Was having a good little battle with you guys till i spun camera round ans saw a horde of creeps coming of the hill.. Should have heard us on vent, what a scream that was.. The wife was upstairs at time and come rushing down she thought i was been murdered for real lol

    Thought we had go away when we managed to get on our mounts but you did a grand job of dismounting us and keeping us slowed.. More like that please was brilliant.
    I guess there was no spy after all then.... Never heard of a creep spy actually, it's just not as feasible as the other way around, you would have to level a freep in order to spy. And freep players seem to care less about their creeps than their freeps, stats just don't seem to matter that much.
    But I'm sure there has been a creep spy or two up throughout the years.


    Fewer creep spies due to many reasons:

    1: Less feasible, you have to level a freep
    2: Ppl playing both sides often care more about their freeps, less willing to risk their rep for a creep
    3: The few players of dubious character, who are more likely to cheat, are more likely to go freep side due to the op classes there. Easy is as easy does.
    4: A guy spying wants to take a shortcut. Playing creep isn't a shortcut and thus the shortcut player would already have a freep as his main.
    5: similar as 1, making a creep takes but 10 seconds
    6: Ppl playing both sides are often more involved with kins on freepside than tribe on creep side.
    7: Ppl use KIN vent if they play both sides, creating a stronger bond with their freep friends.
    8: Certain kins display a complete disregard for other people in this game, being known exploiters and cheaters, and thus are very much likely to expand their dubious play into the field of spying compared to honourable kins, like say Hope & Glory. There are no such tribes in the game, except for the tribes of dubious kins where the players tend to only play creep for short periods.
    9: Freeps hanging out in kin vent have a very short way of becoming a spy if they are idling. Most people have integrity enough not to do so, but spying is always just a few words away. Easy access.


    Summary:

    - Easier and more common to spy for freeps because it's more accessible and potential spies will pick freep as main(no one wanting it easy picks creep).


    This is all very general, there's not that many people who spy. If I were to guess based on my experience, the typical spy would be 15-25 years old and male. That doesn't go to say that an 80 year old woman won't spy, but it is statistically less likely based on my extremely empirical evidence.

    Find your stakes and torches, people!
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    @Kazadaan


    Kaza, wasn't LC HS supposed to be a spar only zone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baronth View Post
    @Kazadaan


    Kaza, wasn't LC HS supposed to be a spar only zone?

    @Baronth

    The Free People claim the outpost in the south, get it back you maggots!

    You guys were not there to spar

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    We were at LCHS for sparring if u want to know, a kinmate creep was coming there. Didnt expect that from you kaza ^^
    I even didnt attack you but started jumping/running to let u see that...


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    Quote Originally Posted by EU-Kazadan View Post
    @Baronth

    The Free People claim the outpost in the south, get it back you maggots!

    You guys were not there to spar
    But you were at spars and we haven't attacked you, and you attacked Alakin...

    And btw we was waitin at lc hs and then captured the op in the meanwhile...

    But if it was a misunderstanding, it's np
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baronth View Post
    But you were at spars and we haven't attacked you, and you attacked Alakin...
    Bull&&&& I saw you three come down from the OP mounted
    I mapped in 'cos I wanted to get a kill, you guys expected me to let you go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EU-Kazadan View Post
    Bull&&&& I saw you three come down from the OP mounted
    We attacked you? Not before you attacked Alakin... I shouted in fellow chat DON'T ATTACK HIM...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakin93 View Post
    We were at LCHS for sparring if u want to know, a kinmate creep was coming there. Didnt expect that from you kaza ^^
    I even didnt attack you but started jumping/running to let u see that...
    Lie better, LC HS is empty you guys weren't there for sparring you took an OP and when you left I was there. Problem?
    You three killed me twice I killed you once, butthurt?

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    What?? If I go LCHS means I am there for sparring someone, and u shouldnt attack me at all. I started jumping and not attacking u to let u see that. But you continued so people there helped me. We took south OP, and went back to LCHS. Whats the problem with that? LCHS is a safe area, you shouldnt attack. End of the topic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EU-Kazadan View Post
    Lie better, LC HS is empty you guys weren't there for sparring you took an OP and when you left I was there. Problem?
    You three killed me twice I killed you once, butthurt?
    I just wanted to know why xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakin93 View Post
    What?? If I go LCHS means I am there for sparring someone, and u shouldnt attack me at all. I started jumping and not attacking u to let u see that. But you continued so people there helped me. We took south OP, and went back to LCHS. Whats the problem with that? LCHS is a safe area, you shouldnt attack. End of the topic.
    unfortunatly it doesn't work that way

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    Indeed, sad to see that some people dont respect it (both freep/creep side) just for few points.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakin93 View Post
    Indeed, sad to see that some people dont respect it (both freep/creep side) just for few points.
    Yeah some people huh? I will never learn to respect people who spar eachother, not really in my nature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludo-EU View Post
    I dont recall seeing a ba at the time. We got to ramp just at enterance of dg and i was buffing us up when i spotted a warg think it was lakfang but could be wrong next min there was a few wargs. Was having a good little battle with you guys till i spun camera round ans saw a horde of creeps coming of the hill.. Should have heard us on vent, what a scream that was.. The wife was upstairs at time and come rushing down she thought i was been murdered for real lol

    Thought we had go away when we managed to get on our mounts but you did a grand job of dismounting us and keeping us slowed.. More like that please was brilliant.
    Must have been a different group that was on the BA then, but either way we'd been following you for a fair while wondering what you were up to and yeah, that double dismount was one of my favourites, just a shame the burg made it out whilst we were finishing you

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    Talking about spars... Does anyone want some now? ^^

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