Thread: Ongoing Ettenmoors Discussion
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Jul 03 2012 07:35 PM #921
I referred to the event. Not the whole night. The reason I died is that I, unlike you, exulted Queen Hornet, actually put aside my rating to fight. I was raid leading that night, of course I died. But I took many a BD storepot with me. Not considering your beloved ratings, mommy's purse cannot bring that back, no matter how much you want it to.
Leader of Rogues Gallery. Uruk dominance campaigner.

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Jul 03 2012 07:58 PM #922
3 people lost rating rest gained rating? what you on about Squelch, you're losing your touch
and we put our rating aside, you just failed to kill us often so most of us still gained rating and ty I do like Queen Hornet title, even with capitals
and I was also leading, and I died, twice I think iirc. you managed to take pots from us? congratulations on that massive victory sir. event, whole night, it stretched all I got to say about that. now you had your fun BD posted yay, now back to Ret's picture and your video (lovely one btw)
- Queen Hornet out.
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Jul 03 2012 08:03 PM #923
Blooddrunk was the worst album from cob, just sayin'

[Puliveivarit] [RG]
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Jul 03 2012 08:04 PM #924
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Jul 03 2012 09:10 PM #925
Some great fights around and in lug tonight.
Many many thanks to my 6 to 12 man raid in its various forms, also thanks to the freeps who fought outside, the various burgs who added some spice, the ledge hunters for keeping us on our toes, the chimps, minis, cappie and rks going toe to toe with us in the keep. Two near misses.
No thanks at all to the loose creeps who twice pulled the whole remaining cg room onto our raid at the peak of the fighting. A lot of fun and some long, quality fights.
ps >.< ret, narg and olf, the TA benny hill chase made me giggle out loud.. how oh how did u let me get away with thatLast edited by Oldwiley; Jul 03 2012 at 09:14 PM.
"Romper: You have the power to make EM less boring for yourself and everyone else. "
"Look for your lore. But do not trust to lore, it has forsaken these lands." - Eolore prince of Lorehan
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Jul 04 2012 05:03 AM #926
Cost of ranking with Commendations (most necessary skills >in my opinion<) from a fresh Blackarrow’s point of view.
Rank 1
Class traits; Avoidance Boost (1500) Deadly Aim (1500) Resistance Boost (1500)
Corruptions; M4P R1 (1000) H4D R1 (1000) Critical Protection (1000) Mastery (1000)
Rank 2
Skills; Punctured Target (2000)
Class traits; Swift Draw (1500) Uncanny Reactions (1500)
Corruptions; M4P R2 (1000) H4D R1 (1000)
Rank 3
Class traits; Feel the burn (1500)
So in total we’re looking at earning 15000 (30000) infamy to gain skills at rank 3, which will take you to almost rank 6, which ofcourse unlocks more and more skills which you will not be able to get for a good while.
Nevermind audacity at 6k per rank.
Creepside for newbies is pretty screwed right now
Just gotta hope for change with RoR, as unlikely as it may seem.Shakuru scored a devastating hit on Retarius for 8,094 Scottish damage to morale.
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Jul 04 2012 05:12 AM #927
And that new creep has no way of pvp'ing to get that infamy, unless he's a current player having friends to help him out on creep. He can quest but you don't get a lot of infamy for quests and who wants to do the same quests every day for weeks to be able to test out a new game? Also, you got certain p2w players targetting questers a lot, so how will those creeps make ANY inf/comms?
When your only alternative is boring questing and you're being repeatedly killed doing something you already dislike, what on earth will keep you playing creep?
I'm not saying you shouldn't kill people, all I am saying is that you should have this in the back of your head when you see that same greenie for the 5th time after killing him 4 times in a row. He can't go to Isengard, Evendim or Moria, this is his only option and now that option is gone.
If any new warg players are reading this, having a hard time in EM and having questions, don't hesitate to pm me.
Leader of the Warg Supremacy Foundation. Retired since RoR came.
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Jul 04 2012 05:20 AM #928
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Jul 04 2012 06:12 AM #929
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Jul 04 2012 06:21 AM #930
Has anyone noticed that everyone calls Blooddrunk the trolls? I usually notice they're quiet until their name is mentioned. Yet people keep on mentioning their names and throwing insults about the 'hivemind'. Only after you throw your insults out at Blooddrunk do they respond and then you start crying that they're a load of trolls who deserve nothing but hate.
You actually all make Blooddrunk look worse than they seem and by your own words begin to make yourselves more paranoid. The words of an unnamed person at the event I arranged, for WLs and rvrs: "Well Olog, if you did wipe them big time and did succeed, Blooddrunk would either log or side switch anyway, that's just what they're like." Five minutes later, Ret and Legi side switched to help out the WL and rvr raid because we had wiped 4 times with only 2 kills. A situation proven wrong.
Creepside begin to hate anyone who speaks sense or gives even a little support to Blooddrunk, believe it or not. I've experienced this myself, and got sort of responses such as, "Oh I suppose you're like Peli and you spy on their vent channel?", and being told by a tribe member I worship Blooddrunk so much I should join them. By doing these things my friends, you have lowered yourselves to a level lower than the trolls you were originally trying to fight. I rest my case, troll me if you wish, give me a ton of silly comments about how I am 'supporting the enemy'. I couldn't care less anymore.Last edited by TiberPancake; Jul 04 2012 at 06:44 AM.
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Jul 04 2012 06:56 AM #931
aye twas good fun, and indeed nice you guys kept coming back, even when least expected. Was always bloody close on the CG always below 100k, was good fun.
And yeah many many curses and curses for the TA chase Wiley lol
it was unreal tbh! especially since I think I started off with like a 5 or 6k hit (didn't see numbers as you stood in the troll, but it seemed to take a lot of health off you) and then the chase haha 
but was a good night all in all, good you guys enjoyed it as well as us. should have more of those!
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Jul 04 2012 08:00 AM #932
+ rep for you
I may not be in Blooddrunk any more at the moment as I have not played for like a year or so on freep, but this is exactly what I think aswell.
Have been in Blooddrunk for a while and always liked the people in there. Never did anything wrong to me. I think most creeps just dislike the way they act in the moors wich I find understandable. Interupting a peace event is kinda lame, but unfortunately you just can't prevent this as it will always be a PvP zone, made for pvping.
I've noticed from talking to some people who knew I was Mongon on creep side that they instantly hated me simply because I used to be in Blooddrunk, hating me for raging like a little kid, swearing at people and stuff(wich I have done more than once) is understandable, but simply hating someone for being in a kin is &&&&&&&&.
Currently playing an awesome Warg that is getting slaughtered by hunters, I am not VIP, so no burg for a bit.
Not like it can be any fun to be so ridiculously OP as freeps are at this very moment :P
Peace,
MongonLast edited by Mongon; Jul 04 2012 at 08:05 AM.

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Jul 04 2012 08:01 AM #933
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Jul 04 2012 08:05 AM #934
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Jul 04 2012 08:26 AM #935
Yeah we certainly equalled our deaths in group with kills; my rating actually rose over 1300 on me reaver >.<
Well... that may be a little sweeping
"Creepside" is a lot of people... sense is a broad statement...
The two CG burns we tried got to 60k and 40k.. curse those 1st marshalls, they were not ours!!!
Aye the opening multiple volley from all 3 put me at 1/3rd health.. after the short leg drop outside and two 180 degree turns I was on 900 health when i got my 1st charge back.. after running in east and due south, i encountered two more freeps in the courtyard on 500 health, one of whom, a rk was stunned by a mate as he targeted me, pivoting west with my second charge as ret went down and re-entering the courtyard I swung some aoe and as i went back up east stairs but had to jump back down due to an interception. After as you dropped, checking my log, in all i got infamy from 4 freeps who had tried to kill me and had done a full lap of every corridor including the chase into the quest room and the section on the outside east.. almost all of it on less than 1k health... was mental.
Even tho this is not ironic in the literal sense of the word.....Last edited by Oldwiley; Jul 04 2012 at 08:31 AM.
"Romper: You have the power to make EM less boring for yourself and everyone else. "
"Look for your lore. But do not trust to lore, it has forsaken these lands." - Eolore prince of Lorehan
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Jul 04 2012 08:27 AM #936
I won't be doing any other events anytime soon, and they earned the hate they got in the early times, just ask Warder he knows what I'm referring to.
You weren't there to see the kind of things they did.
But that was back when the Queen Hornet was humble enough to apologise for his kin's behaviour, not anymore.Leader of Rogues Gallery. Uruk dominance campaigner.

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Jul 04 2012 08:29 AM #937
I had no idea how much I saved spending my dp then. This is even worse that I though.
And this is how you lose customers. It is more or less the reason I left the first time. I had worked my a**e reaching R5 and then they decided to change everything, starting my grind from the start. Imagine a new creep working all summer, getting the coms to buy his skills and after the update, they reduce the coms needed for a R1 skill from 1,5k to 150. It is simply a “F*** you” moment.
If I have to level a class I don't really care about, go VIP and spend tons of tp on steroids, just to enjoy playing with my creep someday, then the game is lost (at least for me).
I'll try following a couple of raids around, in case I get my warg paws back, but I fear I'm getting too old for the constant warg movement. Maybe I'll just settle with my spider or BA. We'll see.
I have the feeling we already had this talk earlier when I was logged on my spider but I'm terrible with names.
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Jul 04 2012 08:36 AM #938
Rat, that was so not me >.< Someone had already called it in OOC.
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Jul 04 2012 08:48 AM #939

Slayer of Light, Snitch-Killer, Captain's Foe, Champion's Foe, Dwarf-Foe, Elf-Slayer, Hobbit-Foe, Scout-Blinder, Lore-Master's Foe, Man-Slayer, Bard-Slayer, Slayer of Rune-Keepers, Warden's Foe
Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3, Tier 4
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Jul 04 2012 09:11 AM #940
I`ve recently logged my Rank 5 BA, and I must say eventhough I have some skills the thought of grinding the Comms I need for Corruptions and Audacity has 50% put me off ever playing creep. (the other 50% is down to the hate shown by certain Creeps towards me, and I`m not a member of BD, maybe I should join them at least I`d know why I`m hated then)


I do feel for the Creeps on this aspect of the game, but everyone knows the problem, and apart from asking for a lower commendation cost I have never seen any other suggestions to fix it.
I had a thought, how about Armour sets for Creeps, each class has a six piece armour set, with each piece having +1 Audacity and maybe a Corruption or 2 on it, they could also have set bonus`s just like Freeps, the costs would be the same as Freep EM armour, so if you had the whole 6 pieces it would boost Audacity, Corruptions and certain Skills of each Class. Obviously I`m not experienced on Creep so I`m not sure how the bonus`s etc would be best applied.
Would be kinda cool to see Dharma with a light/med Armour carapace though
It`s just a thought, maybe some of the Creep Class experts could expand further, you never know an idea like this could take with the Dev`s, although they do seem to show a remarkable lack of interest in PvP.
I dont hug, I keep my distance, about 40m.
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Jul 04 2012 09:14 AM #941
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Jul 04 2012 01:35 PM #942
If you/ a new creep simply wishes to farm commendations, the best way. Imo.
Is to do quest related to diffrent keeps, like lugazag for example.
Because the deed for completing x amount of quest gives the most commendations not the quest themselves.
I mean the deeds that gives maps, those deeds gives 500, 1000 and I think 1500.
There's five diffrent map points and there's three diffrent kind of map to reach points. So just do the counting yourselves and you'll see tat you can actually get a tremendous amount of commendations.
P.s guys on a mobile device if you wonder why the English might sound a little &&&&&&&&.

Ferugar Guard r5, Gelduidion LM r5, Eadenred Cappy r4, Lugmarkh BA r4.
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Jul 04 2012 01:53 PM #943
Fully agreed with this. I won't argue that BD is a pain in the loincloth due to some of the stuff they do and I don't support most of these things either, but all together they get too much credit.

Both sides have been judging and cursing the behavior of the opposing side since the dawn of time and I suppose that's normal. But the moment you've got the attitude Olog is describing and you start blowing stuff out of proportion and judging people simply based on the kin they're in, then remember...
- A portion of the people publicly hating on BD logs on less than me (and I hover around two short nights a week of activity)
- If you really consider BD to be such trolls, then stop provoking the trolls... unless of course... they're not the ones trolling in this scenario (imagine Sudden Clarity Clarence, please).
- The only freep character I still log on to is in Blooddrunk and will stay there. If not because I have some friends on BD, then to make a point that judging a person only on which kin they are in is moronic. My heart lies on creepside and if that's questioned because I'm in BD, then I'd rather have those people bugger off out of the few raids I still lead.
- It's a game.
BD has done their share of annoying and silly &&&&, but especially on forums some creeps provoke them to act as they sometimes do. With all due respect to these creeps, but you're giving BD reasons to act even worse... so shut up, maybe?
You know who you are.
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Lug fights were epic, fully agreed with everything said until now regarding that.
Last edited by Qynox; Jul 05 2012 at 12:22 PM.
Nox of GilrainFather of Shewolf
(DNA-test results pending)
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Jul 04 2012 02:15 PM #944
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Jul 04 2012 02:39 PM #945
They don't need to justify themselves if they're being provoked. As we speak I'm getting tells ingame of someone who agrees with my point and said BD isn't too bad if they're not being demonized.
Yes, they are trolls, I know that, creeps know that and, hell, they even admit it (with too much pride). But they can also be pleasant and enjoyable people, if they're not being pushed to troll and in the few hours a week I spend ingame/on the forums I rarely see them not being pushed. If you label someone, you cannot be surprised if they just say "&&&& it" eventually and start behaving as the label you just stuck on them.Last edited by Qynox; Jul 04 2012 at 02:42 PM.
Nox of GilrainFather of Shewolf
(DNA-test results pending)
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Jul 04 2012 02:43 PM #946
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Jul 04 2012 02:51 PM #947
I think I made my point clear, most of what I wanted to say has been said. I avoid the forums to not get in silly fights and when people start pointing fingers and shouting "They started it!" I see no hope for a mature conversation anymore.
If the people who like lamenting about BD more then necessary still would read my last few posts again. If you still beg to differ, so be it. Nox out.
Nox of GilrainFather of Shewolf
(DNA-test results pending)
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Jul 04 2012 02:53 PM #948
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Jul 04 2012 03:09 PM #949
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Jul 04 2012 03:21 PM #950
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Jul 04 2012 04:33 PM #951
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Jul 04 2012 04:47 PM #952
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Jul 04 2012 05:02 PM #953
Oops, I didn't noticed the map deed rewards. I am a bit happier BA now. At least I have something to work for.

That quote though was about relearning to play my ancient warg. Unfortunately he has all 3 qualities of maps to everywhere. No coms there.
PS. Nice workout around wtab tonight. I died around 100 times but I got about 100 kills as well. My BA went almost R3. I remembered the moors fun. Thnx to all freeps for farming me and all creeps for helping. Special thnx to batman for all the heals :P
PS1. Dear freeps. I don't know about your numbers and stats, but my poor creep logic says that when in the middle of heavy fighting, you concentrate your attacks on an easy R2 kill, you are diverting your skills away from more experienced players targeting you at the same time. :P
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Jul 04 2012 05:11 PM #954
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Jul 04 2012 07:18 PM #955
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Jul 04 2012 07:21 PM #956
Farewell to Bogburz who took his leave of the game tonight. Turned me into a walking bank with 5 characters worth of full stacks of pots and quest items.
Pleasure to have you in the tribe and on the server. We'll miss you friend.Leader of Rogues Gallery. Uruk dominance campaigner.

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Jul 04 2012 08:07 PM #957
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Jul 04 2012 08:16 PM #958"Romper: You have the power to make EM less boring for yourself and everyone else. "
"Look for your lore. But do not trust to lore, it has forsaken these lands." - Eolore prince of Lorehan
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Jul 04 2012 08:58 PM #959
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Jul 05 2012 03:17 AM #960







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